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Surprised no one mentions this, specially with all the program buying hahaha did/does.
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I try to not confuse the kids... That's why I say things like "understanding financing" or "financial advisors" and know the people with a clue will understand... And see, they did!
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That's nothing new. For the Adult Internet to survive and continue to make money the old offline porn industry USED to make it will take far more than buying up existing companies or starting new ones based on old models.
Dating could go free supported by mainstream ads and cams is a smaller market than mainstream porn industry. I may be 60 but I'm looking forward a lot more than most. |
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As someone who has managed people for decades on and off. You don't have time to post on GFY, you don't delegate the management of a company that large to 2 people, one in the US and one in EU. Which Fabian says he did. You end up taking work home with you. I asked a perfectly legitimate question a few weeks age. "How big is Manwin?" No one came up with anything solid. A lot of Manwin ass kissers flamed me, some emailed me with nothing provable and trolls flamed me. Now we have a 4 page thread, that still has nothing solid. So far I'm only on page 2. ![]() |
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Paul, go visit the office in Montreal: 7777 boul decarie. Looking at google maps images shot on the weekend is a useless proof. The people replying to you saying they been there and it's big, you do not believe... So the only way to prove anything to you is for you to visit the office... Not that I cared much, or I would invite you...
Looking forward to the next few years with you continuously thinking we are small and I do not own anything just because you sucked at your management job yourself ![]()
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nope..
Do they own GFY YET?? When will we know? Of course stupid spammer like BareFootsies are alrady sucking some dicks, just in case.. That barefootsies Christy makes me puke, really.. What an idiot. |
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However I still question how big are you? You say you're big, yet there's no evidence. It's hidden. You say you're the owner yet there's no evidence and your replies to my emails didn't give me that impression. You say the picture was taken at the weekend, do you have evidence it was. You say there's 300 employees in that office, yet there's a sign outside saying there office space for rent. 300 employees take a lot of office space. Do you know how much? There's a very simple answer, show us a picture of you standing in the Manwin office with the 300 or some of them at their desks behind you. Or better still video it so we can see you walk from the reception to the working offices. Perception is everything in this business as we rarely meet each other except at shows and that's no real guide. The perception I get is Manwin is a company with much to hide, from it's domain management to it's office address. Even you don't come across as a person who runs a company with 300 employees. Your knowledge of the porn industry is crap and you prove it over and over again. I come across via my content production over the last 10 years, 2,500+ scenes not to companies like yours paying peanuts but companies paying proper prices. You come over as someone who says a lot and shows nothing. You can't even be straight about your own TOS on deleting pirated content. |
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And please no bullshit about delegating to 2 people, 1 in the US and one in the EU. You would be the most stupidest person on this board to give away that power to employees. And gone in weeks from the business. You sit on board meeting with 10 to 20 delegates and spend all week managing them. |
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Paul. What do I have to gain from proving anything to you? It's much more fun to have you look like the idiot you are for posting the crap you do...
![]() Btw, how are we hiding our address?? I posted it more than once, it's on our webpage, it's on our business cards.... Regarding the sign in front of our office building, you simply do not get how big this building is. We hardly need the whole building for pur 300 people... So room still available for lease does not negate our size
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Paul, you are so clueless, lol.. 500 people btw, 300 is just Montreal.
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Do you have any plans for the company to go public or still far to early in the game?
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He and his content wife will just need a partitioned off cubby hole for the Enterprise.
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Still no true decision if an adult co can ever be truly well received on the stock market... I am looking into SecondMarket to do some tests...
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yeah besides its still a content
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As for office space this is something I do know about. The standard office space for Open Plan offices is around 17.5 square meters per person. That would mean few people working in enclosed offices, usually reserved for managers and above. That's 5,250 sq metres or 56,500 feet. That at $25 a square for is an office costing $1,412,500 a year in rent. But there are also all these people in that building. Or listed as being in that building. Berger Emrich Valencak CA & Associés - Centre IOS Inc - Embvue Inc - Giovanni & Bruzzese Inc - Interpro Consultants Inc - World Financial Group of Montreal - They must be small companies if you have 56,500 sq ft of that building. But it seems there is still space to let at 7777 Decarie and a lot of people are in that building, list of 7777 Decarie addressees. But what you said must be true because you posted it on GFY. ![]() Employing 300 people at an average of $50,000 a year in wages, taxes and costs would be a $15,000,000 wage bill. That's $16,412,500 without switching on a light. I used to budget Open Plan offices, furniture alone at around $4,000 a person for decent office furniture with a screen environment like this; ![]() That's $1,200,000 in office furniture alone. You see office space and filling it with people is something I do know a lot about. You might have them working in smaller boxes, but who knows. The only facts I can dig up show otherwise. |
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Already changed gears years ago old chap.
Unlike you, I still make decent money on C4S with a an hour's worth of work per day, 5 days a week. I can shoot new content, 32 scenes per month, and recoup the cost for shooting that 6-8 girls within 30 days of production. I then can make 1000% profit on licensing, tube pay site memberships, customer requests, DVD and alike over the years. Adult is still profitable if you know what you are doing. Even without magic join links. ![]() |
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Could never shoot 32 scenes a month. The magazine market was not big enough. but shooting sets was a nice earner. We could afford to wait 3-6 months to get paid. Do you have a link to your sites or content on C4S? |
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17.5 sqm per Person?! Are you insane?? Why waste all that space? Thats over 3x5m blocks per person...
The rest of your calc was good... I do not fully understand what you want to prove with those remarks?
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If there is one thing the roller coaster of the online adult industry in the past couple of years has taught me, it's to diversify. Something I started doing a few years back. I still love adult, and shooting my personal passion while others (patrons/members) pay for me to do so and make a profit. I have no intentions of leaving adult even if it were a break even enterprise. That said, getting my bread buttered multiple places affords me that freedom. Grats on being able to kick back and watch from your lawn chair. ![]() |
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As Footsies pointed out, those of us that are actually in this Industry today, make money many different ways. Any content owner today making any decent money twists and sells the content every possible direction they can... old and new. Now... I'll let you get back to making me laugh in this thread.
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I furnished a $5 million office installation for Bank of America and KNOW what it takes to house 300 people in decent office. But don't take my word for it. ![]() Again you reveal you're not that up on what it takes to run an office of 300 people. And that's what you have proven. Barefootsies diversifying offline is good. I'm too old to change again, still got ideas but not the will. ![]() |
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![]() Thanks for reminding people how I've maximised selling my content over the years. Now I'm selling it out cheap and still selling. ![]() |
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Most investors have no say in the day to day business, they just invest. Some do sit on the board though, and have voting powers... which is normal. Anyway... what Nathan has been doing is very normal for anyone in real Business - which something 99% of us in this Industry pretend to be doing.
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Right now, I sell porn probably 20 different ways.... you sold 7 ways was over 20 years and today you sell porn ONE way. That's the point...
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Paul, dammit! You got me!
Again, where is my benefit of proving any of this to you or the board?
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Paul, sorry for not replying sooner to this, had to check my docs and I was not home...
We have 39815 sqft in 7777 Decarie. This includes our cafeteria though. So close to the 12.5 sqm value from TOCS 2003 you posted (did not see that image either when I replied via iphone before)... so, we fit in just fine... We are growing though, so we are added over 10000 sqft, going up to 51356 sqft. As I said before, your price calc was quite good... a bit too higher for avg employee, considering this includes north american support people... What I have yet to understand though is what you are trying to achieve with your calculation... other than maybe showing that you know how to read stats and can calculate 300*17.5*10.7*$25 and 300*$50000... you did that one quite well I must admit! ![]()
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Nathan, it sounds pretty awesome. What kind of jobs do you fill with those 300 employees? Do you have job postings anywhere for what kind of positions you're hiring for with the upcoming expansion?
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A lot of the companies hahaha bought were mid to small companies at most worth a couple million, some probably not ever out of the 6 figure range. How hard was it for hahaha to make several 100K-200K payments vs someone having to shell out 10s of millions of dollars. Especially someone who was launching an affiliate program 3 years ago after being a 1/3 owner in Nats. How do you compare what hahaha did with smaller companies to buying Brazzers, and tube sites that are top 100 in the world. I'd bet mansef was 100x more expensive to the stuff hahaha was buying. hahaha bought a small company, for the sake of getting banned, lets just say he "did his thing" made more money bought the next small company. Nathan is claiming to go from 0 to 100million on the first purchase. Sorry nothing like what hahaha did.
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Brujah,
current postings are always here: http://ca.manwin.com/index.php/careers The increase in size has to do with upcoming planned acquisitions, but also with expansion of the new Wicked Team and general growth of the company. We are also building a completely new office in Germany right now, where we are looking for more or less everything under the sun, but should be german speaking of course.. in Hamburg... final size of that one is around 125 people at current planning.
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surely someone worth 100s of millions of dollar would have an interesting one.
![]() im sure its 300 people to deal with dmca requests.
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will76, what most people here do not realize is, that what I did was not:
1) Sell NATS shares 2) Start my own amateur site 3) Buy Mansef Buy Mansef is step 10), step 3-9 is completely ignored... I looked at over 200 companies/sites over the past 4 years, I bought around 10... Mansef was #8. More is possible in adult than you think, with growth/optimizing and so on... Just imagine: 1) Buy a site worth 6m in adult, it will make likely 350k profit a month. 2) Grow that site through planned optimizations to 600k over a period of 3 months. 3) After 12 months you have your 6m back. 4) Buy another site for 10m, 6m upfront, it will profit around 500k a month 5) Grow the two sites, through synergies and optimization again from 1.1m to 1.5m in 3 months. 6) After 12 months you made 13,2m - 4m rest payments, 13.2m free and clear. 7) Buy another site for 20m, 13m upfront, it will profit around 1.5m a month 8) Grow the three sites, through synergies and such again, from 3m to 4m in 3 months. 9) After 12 months you made 46m - 7m payment, thats 39m cash free and clear. 10) It just took me 3 years to make 6m into 39m for the next acquisition, I also make 4m more each month... I am of course not saying this is easy to do, but its clearly possible... You just need to know what you are doing and how to do it. You need to of course also find the right things to buy...
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will76, some things should remain a mystery, or all these fun conspiracy theories would stop :/
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What I cannot imagine is why an ultra successful adult entrepreneur (and sole owner of a traffic giant) would feel the need to post on this board while watching TV with his kids on the weekend. I think if I was in that position I would do things a little differently.
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RYC, good for you.. sadly you have no actual arguements you can just call me names.. you must have done well working in those fortune 50 companies...
I also honestly do not know what this has anything to do with anything in this thread... Jonnydoe, to each their own...
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