Anchor Babies cost LA county 600 million last year

[Vendzilla]

http://www.examiner.com/county-polit...lion-last-year


The $600 million tab was tallied using county statistics released by Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich who says social spending for those families rose $53 million in November and when added to the $570 already spent would edge the yearly welfare bill past $600 million for 2010.

Antonovich estimated the figure using the cost of food stamps and other welfare benefits used by California?s CalWORKS program. The supervisor also pooled those numbers with public safety and health care costs.

However, county officials say the "total cost for illegal immigrants to county taxpayers is $1.6 billion

[Amputate Your Head]

so what, who cares.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

http://www.examiner.com/county-polit...lion-last-year


The $600 million tab was tallied using county statistics released by Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich who says social spending for those families rose $53 million in November and when added to the $570 already spent would edge the yearly welfare bill past $600 million for 2010.

Antonovich estimated the figure using the cost of food stamps and other welfare benefits used by California?s CalWORKS program. The supervisor also pooled those numbers with public safety and health care costs.

However, county officials say the "total cost for illegal immigrants to county taxpayers is $1.6 billion

The government seems to be intent on not blocking our borders...so unless that is done and/or the constitution is not amended or there simply is not anymore money in the coffers...I do not know of anything that can be done about it...do you?

[czarina]

your prejudice is so tiring and boring!

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by theking

The government seems to be intent on not blocking our borders...so unless that is done and/or the constitution is not amended or there simply is not anymore money in the coffers...I do not know of anything that can be done about it...do you?

End the welfare state

[baddog]

Originally Posted by czarina

your prejudice is so tiring and boring!

As long as you are not paying for them, you don't care.

[_Richard_]

you should cut all of that

might as well open all your prisons while you're at it, would save some steps

[theking]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

End the welfare state

Yes that could also be done as long as people are willing to watch people (babies/children) suffer/die and the crime/prison rate go up?

[ReGGs]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

End the welfare state

Sure thing! We can start with the airlines, military industrial complex, and big banks. They have been sucking off the government teet since before Reagan made up that shit about welfare mothers.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by theking

Yes that could also be done as long as people are willing to watch people (babies/children) suffer/die and the crime/prison rate go up?

Too late, the school system is suffering because of the resources being drained, the hospitals are being over ran and resources drained, the Jails are being overran and underfunded because of the resources being drained

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by czarina

your prejudice is so tiring and boring!

It's fucking morons like you that keep shit like this from getting fixed. We leave the borders open, drug dealers are waging war across the border, killing over 22,000 people last year over it and all you can do is say Im prejudice? Do you have brain cell one? Or is the killing of 22,000 people ok with you fucking moron?

Close the border, we have the technology, closing down the drug traffic, saving lives.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Too late, the school system is suffering because of the resources being drained, the hospitals are being over ran and resources drained, the Jails are being overran and underfunded because of the resources being drained

I understand what is taking place...but until the government makes it a priority to close our borders...the situation will grow worse with each passing year. If they would close the borders the drain would decrease over the years until it became manageble.

What has the new Congress spent its time on thus far...playing politics as usual by making a show of voting on a repeal of the Health Care law...a total waste of time.

[Rochard]

I think that anyone born here illegally isn't a US citizen. Period.

I understand the law here; One of my friends was a anchor baby long before the term was invented. Father came up from Mexico working on a work visa, legally brought his preggo wife with him intentionally so the kid would be a us citizen. That's fine, that's legal.

But being born here illegally should not make anyone a citizen. Not when a crime was commited to make it happen.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It's fucking morons like you that keep shit like this from getting fixed. We leave the borders open, drug dealers are waging war across the border, killing over 22,000 people last year over it and all you can do is say Im prejudice? Do you have brain cell one? Or is the killing of 22,000 people ok with you fucking moron?

Close the border, we have the technology, closing down the drug traffic, saving lives.

why are you swearing at her?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It's fucking morons like you that keep shit like this from getting fixed. We leave the borders open, drug dealers are waging war across the border, killing over 22,000 people last year over it and all you can do is say Im prejudice? Do you have brain cell one? Or is the killing of 22,000 people ok with you fucking moron?

Close the border, we have the technology, closing down the drug traffic, saving lives.

I agree with you.

However, once this shit starts spilling into LA, trust me, the White House - whomever is in office - will call out the military. Honestly, it's long over due.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

why are you swearing at her?

I don't like morons

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I don't like morons

either do i, and i find myself lecturing, but swearing just brings you to their level

[RaiderCash_Dominik]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I think that anyone born here illegally

I think you need to define what you mean "born illegally"? I had no idea baby needs a permit to pop out of vagina.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I agree with you.

However, once this shit starts spilling into LA, trust me, the White House - whomever is in office - will call out the military. Honestly, it's long over due.

I was there during the LA riots, it's not like they can't do that.
Get rid of these sanctuary cities, cut federal spending to them, it's illegal
Hell if Holder can go after Arizona, then it's no different
Add text to the 14Th amendment, it was never intended for that purpose, fuck Mexico and it's problems, they can fix it, we can shut the borders.
If they have a record, deport them
If they have an illegal SSN, deport them
If they have an illegal identity, deport them
If they are here obeying the laws, have a way to work towards citizenship

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

either do i, and i find myself lecturing, but swearing just brings you to their level

I get mad , because it's seriously idiots like that that have fucked things up, we can't get anything done in this country. Worried about their rights, what about the legal citizens that we have to cut back on school funding for, because of the load those illegal aliens are costing the system?

Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik

I think you need to define what you mean "born illegally"? I had no idea baby needs a permit to pop out of vagina.

That's why they need to add some text to the 14Th amendment

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It's fucking morons like you that keep shit like this from getting fixed. We leave the borders open, drug dealers are waging war across the border, killing over 22,000 people last year over it and all you can do is say Im prejudice? Do you have brain cell one? Or is the killing of 22,000 people ok with you fucking moron?

Close the border, we have the technology, closing down the drug traffic, saving lives.

It's 15,000, not 22,000. The 22,000 figure you keep throwing around was from mid-2006 to mid-2010.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_808277.html

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

End the welfare state

How do you do that Einstien?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by theking

Yes that could also be done as long as people are willing to watch people (babies/children) suffer/die and the crime/prison rate go up?

There are more people on welfare now than ever and the crime rate is higher then ever. It is a myth that welfare keeps crime rates down and that losing welfare would make crime rates go up more than they are already.

Originally Posted by ReGGs

Sure thing! We can start with the airlines, military industrial complex, and big banks. They have been sucking off the government teet since before Reagan made up that shit about welfare mothers.

No shit Shurlock. Both public and corporate welfare. You also forgot to mention foreign aid.

If you dont think people are just sitting there collecting welfare and dreaming of new ways to game the system you live in a dream world.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Add text to the 14Th amendment, it was never intended for that purpose, fuck Mexico

An I can say the 2nd Amendment never intended for every inbred redneck to have a gun either. you get inot very dangerous teritory when you start "adding text" to the amedments to the constiution.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It's fucking morons like you that keep shit like this from getting fixed. We leave the borders open, drug dealers are waging war across the border, killing over 22,000 people last year over it and all you can do is say Im prejudice? Do you have brain cell one? Or is the killing of 22,000 people ok with you fucking moron?

Close the border, we have the technology, closing down the drug traffic, saving lives.

Hey dipshit 90% of the people that have been killed by the drug dealers are other drug dealers. Let them kill each other.

[pornguy]

No they are US citizens and they deserve the rights. they were born in the US. However its funny that they call them Anchor babies because they dont anchor anyone any place.

They can still be and usually are deported. Only difference is The kid can come back when he is old enough.

[ReGGs]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I think that anyone born here illegally isn't a US citizen. Period.

I understand the law here; One of my friends was a anchor baby long before the term was invented. Father came up from Mexico working on a work visa, legally brought his preggo wife with him intentionally so the kid would be a us citizen. That's fine, that's legal.

But being born here illegally should not make anyone a citizen. Not when a crime was commited to make it happen.

There is nothing in the constituition says your parents have to be legal in order for you to become a citizens. The 14th amendment explicitly states that if you are born here POOF you are a citizen. They did it for a good reason. So the qualifications to become a citizen weren't subjected to political whims. If it were 100 years ago people would be complaining about the Irish immigrants "ruining" our country.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by baddog

As long as you are not paying for them, you don't care.

considering 50% of the "taxpayers" don't actually pay any income taxes. Most people aren't paying ofr shit anyways.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

There are more people on welfare now than ever and the crime rate is higher then ever. It is a myth that welfare keeps crime rates down and that losing welfare would make crime rates go up more than they are already.

I read this yesterday in regards to Compton and found it interesting. Not directly related to welfare, but somewhat similar.

"
Compton's crime drop fits into the national picture: In the first six months of 2010, violent crime fell more than 6 percent in the United States -- the fourth consecutive year that crime dropped. In fact, violent crime has been falling nationally since about 1993.

Researchers have theorized many causes: the country's skyrocketing prison rates? The aging population? (Young men commit more crimes.) Increased access to abortion? Improved policing techniques, like the "broken windows" approach of former L.A. Police Chief William Bratton?

Some experts had expected the recession and high unemployment to reverse the trend, on the assumption that poverty and desperation fuel crime. But economists say the relationship between the economy and crime is more complicated than that."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theloo...ally-feel-safe

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It's fucking morons like you that keep shit like this from getting fixed. We leave the borders open, drug dealers are waging war across the border, killing over 22,000 people last year over it and all you can do is say Im prejudice? Do you have brain cell one? Or is the killing of 22,000 people ok with you fucking moron?

Close the border, we have the technology, closing down the drug traffic, saving lives.

Honestly, the border is open because the US can not afford to close it. Toooo many people getting paid by it being open.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I don't like morons

then kill yourself. Seriously you really should kill yourself. Why bother psoting her. It's like you, the demon, stickfingerz and 12clicks with your neo-con teabagger crap. Think about that. Think about the company you're keeping. No one here even likes the other 3.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by GatorB

considering 50% of the "taxpayers" don't actually pay any income taxes. Most people aren't paying ofr shit anyways.

Well at least you admit most people are not paying their fair share.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I get mad , because it's seriously idiots like that that have fucked things up, we can't get anything done in this country. Worried about their rights, what about the legal citizens that we have to cut back on school funding for, because of the load those illegal aliens are costing the system?

what's your heritage, if you don't mind me asking?

[GatorB]

Ok morons say "close the border", "deport all illegals". Ok Einstiens that will cost MONEY. Where is the MONEY coming from? Teabaggers are already bitching about taxes and deficits. Teabagers don't want to pay and extra $5 a year so American can have healthcare.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by GatorB

considering 50% of the "taxpayers" don't actually pay any income taxes. Most people aren't paying ofr shit anyways.

STFU, you pull shit out of your ass constantly.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Well at least you admit most people are not paying their fair share.

I'm not admitting anything. I'm stating facts. the fact is 9 out of every 10 people posting here really isn't paying shit.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Add text to the 14Th amendment, it was never intended for that purpose, fuck Mexico and it's problems, they can fix it, we can shut the borders.

That really opens up a can of worms.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by GatorB

then kill yourself. Seriously you really should kill yourself. Why bother psoting her. It's like you, the demon, stickfingerz and 12clicks with your neo-con teabagger crap. Think about that. Think about the company you're keeping. No one here even likes the other 3.

Sorry for offending you with the moron statement, LMAO

Originally Posted by _Richard_

what's your heritage, if you don't mind me asking?

Native American and English

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by baddog

STFU, you pull shit out of your ass constantly.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tax Day is a dreaded deadline for millions, but for nearly half of U.S. households it's simply somebody else's problem.

About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That's according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly...105567323.html

Also

http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pa...ome-taxes.html

Top 10% pays 70% of all come taxes. So that means 90% of tax payers pay 30%

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Honestly, the border is open because the US can not afford to close it. Toooo many people getting paid by it being open.

What if the had military excercises along the border? Shot anything that moved?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

What if the had military excercises along the border? Shot anything that moved?

worked great for east germany.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Sorry for offending you with the moron statement, LMAO



Native American and English

The English- the ORIGINAL illegal aliens.

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It's fucking morons like you that keep shit like this from getting fixed. We leave the borders open, drug dealers are waging war across the border, killing over 22,000 people last year over it and all you can do is say Im prejudice? Do you have brain cell one? Or is the killing of 22,000 people ok with you fucking moron?

Close the border, we have the technology, closing down the drug traffic, saving lives.

Dude, you are so utterly deluded. Nobody cares about a bunch of dead Mexicans or a few casualties north of the border.

The borders are open because Congress WANTS the borders open to drive wingers like you nuts. Republicans get votes off your anger and Democrats get Latino votes by calling you a racist.

Use your brain, you must have one in there. IF the government wants to do something it gets done. If they don't want something done, it doesn't happen and there's always one of two reasons: $$$ or votes.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by GatorB

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tax Day is a dreaded deadline for millions, but for nearly half of U.S. households it's simply somebody else's problem.

About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That's according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly...105567323.html

Also

http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pa...ome-taxes.html

Top 10% pays 70% of all come taxes. So that means 90% of tax payers pay 30%

in your post you say 47% don't pay taxes, 10% pay 70% of all taxes, yet 90% pay 30% . More like 43%, where the fuck did you learn math moron?

[ReGGs]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Ok morons say "close the border", "deport all illegals". Ok Einstiens that will cost MONEY. Where is the MONEY coming from? Teabaggers are already bitching about taxes and deficits. Teabagers don't want to pay and extra $5 a year so American can have healthcare.

Exactly. Same people complaining about government spending up all the money wants to build a fence that will cost 3 million dollars per mile (500 dollars per foot). That doesn't even include the money it will cost to buy all that private land the fence will need to run across. All this money for something you can dig right the fuck under.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by ReGGs

Exactly. Same people complaining about government spending up all the money wants to build a fence that will cost 3 million dollars per mile (500 dollars per foot). That doesn't even include the money it will cost to buy all that private land the fence will need to run across. All this money for something you can dig right the fuck under.

So you're all for the 15273 drug related deaths in mexico last year, you're ok with the 1.6 billion dollar price tag per year for ONE county?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Dude, you are so utterly deluded. Nobody cares about a bunch of dead Mexicans or a few casualties north of the border.

The borders are open because Congress WANTS the borders open to drive wingers like you nuts. Republicans get votes off your anger and Democrats get Latino votes by calling you a racist.

Use your brain, you must have one in there. IF the government wants to do something it gets done. If they don't want something done, it doesn't happen and there's always one of two reasons: $$$ or votes.

So in your mind, it's easier to just give up? This is just a discussion, yes it's one I'm passionate about. Building a fence is not the only way, one is to cut off support, we voted on that, prop 187 and it was shot down by one idiot judge.

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So you're all for the 15273 drug related deaths in mexico last year, you're ok with the 1.6 billion dollar price tag per year for ONE county?

I would LOVE to hear how sealing the border will prevent drug violence in Mexico.

You are going to give yourself an ulcer worrying about the state of the world.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So you're all for the 15273 drug related deaths in mexico last year, you're ok with the 1.6 billion dollar price tag per year for ONE county?

I don't understand your obsession with Mexican gang murders. A large proportion of them are other gang members. A small proportion are civilians. While very tragic and unfortunate, and the whole thing is a complete mess, why are you expecting Americans to care so much? We have our own problems, our own gangs, and our own soldiers being killed... and we're supposed to care about Mexican cartel violence that isn't even happening in the United States?

And on top of all that, you think "closing our borders" is suddenly going to stop that violence?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by GatorB

The English- the ORIGINAL illegal aliens.

Whats your mix, moron and idiot?