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Old 12-28-2010, 04:38 PM   #1
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how many paysites (adult) will close/shut in 2011?

how many paysites (adult) will close/shut in 2011?

as the owners have 'decided' to do somthing else (and not sell as the sites no longer bring in customers of course).
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Old 12-28-2010, 08:53 PM   #2
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Old 12-28-2010, 08:56 PM   #3
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:43 PM   #4
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IMO... sites.. not many .. programs... quite a few.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:14 AM   #5
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probably 1/100 of the amount of new ones that will be launched.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:29 AM   #6
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Not as many as the number that will silently start rolling ancient content through with new dates on it, hoping nobody will notice.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:56 AM   #7
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We will release a lot of new sites
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:01 AM   #8
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:04 AM   #9
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We'll be launching at least 1 new exclusive site next year. And continuing production on the rest
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:44 AM   #10
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It doesn't make sense that sponsors close or stop paying affiliates. They should sell their program to somebody else.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:28 AM   #11
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The number of sites has nothing to do with the number of customers.

A better question is how many new Tube sites will open convincing how many customers free is better than paid.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:49 AM   #12
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I think Camembert will make a resurgence.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:57 AM   #13
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More than anyone want to imagine.

Lots of them will close.

And, not too many new ones will open.


Sad, but true ... read this on December 29, 2011
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:05 AM   #14
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Maybe some more will close to new affiliates. Which is not a bad thing.
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:36 AM   #15
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how many paysites (adult) will close/shut in 2011?

as the owners have 'decided' to do somthing else (and not sell as the sites no longer bring in customers of course).
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:54 AM   #16
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:55 AM   #17
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Many will close their affiliate programs because they need to steal rebills to survive and can no longer afford to pay what they owe affiliates. (IOW, they don't know how to run a business)

Others will close because it's no longer easy money nor are there any illusions of getting rich quick. These are the ones who see others closing so they decide to do so too.

Many more will just sell their programs to others who will usually screw affiliates in some way. The smaller guys with CCBill programs and little volume will just shut down.

From an affiliate perspective the biggest problem won't be conversions (mine are fine) but as it was in 2010 it will be all the problems with sponsors folding, not paying, and stealing and cheating affiliates to survive (and you can count on it getting worse). If you're smart you'll pay a lot of attention to who you promote and assess the likelihood of them staying honest and surviving through the next year. Minimizing your risk will save you headaches later on.

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Old 12-29-2010, 05:27 AM   #18
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We've drummed up a business plan to push out into lots more niches and develop our affiliate program on the back of WWW doing so well for us in 2010.

Keep your eyes peeled!
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:55 AM   #20
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For us it's like this...
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:56 AM   #21
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heh, beat me to it so i'll have to say 23
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:58 AM   #22
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how many paysites (adult) will close/shut in 2011?

as the owners have 'decided' to do somthing else (and not sell as the sites no longer bring in customers of course).
i think that will stop, all programs on end died this yr
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i think site closures with outweigh site openings
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www.nichewealth.com is continuing to launch new sites, and continues to grow our existing sites. If your not an affiliate yet, what are you waiting for?
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:03 AM   #25
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we'll see a lot of the smaller programs close up shop shortly after the new year. around March/April it will slow down and then again towards the end of the year, more smaller programs shutting their doors
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plenty have stopped updating already. the only ones that will close are those with a significant overhead.
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we'll see a lot of the smaller programs close up shop shortly after the new year. around March/April it will slow down and then again towards the end of the year, more smaller programs shutting their doors
Yes, I expect an absolute blood bath for smaller paysites handling their own payouts in 2011. Worse than 2010. The CCBill programs and such not so much as long as they have a reasonable volume but the Visa fee will continue to get many of the smaller ones.
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we'll see a lot of the smaller programs close up shop shortly after the new year. around March/April it will slow down and then again towards the end of the year, more smaller programs shutting their doors
it wont be smaller one or two man operations that will shut down. they will just keep the site open and recycle content. it costs little to do so.

look who closed the last couple years. medium and large operations with plenty of outgoing costs.
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it wont be smaller one or two man operations that will shut down. they will just keep the site open and recycle content. it costs little to do so.

look who closed the last couple years. medium and large operations with plenty of outgoing costs.
Agreed there as well. The big guys often hemorrhage money and the owners don't know how to keep profitable in a downturn. All they know of business is operating in the growth phase. They don't know what to do and will grasp at straws.

Smart efficient programs ran by people with business sense and without the illusions of being "Mr. Bigshot" (ego driven) will be the ones to survive.

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