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Slutboat · 12-09-2010, 10:48 PM

condom porn is kind of like boogie boarding compared to surfing, or low fat ice cream compared to Ben n Jerrys, it just aint quite the same.... any thoughts on the subject?

potter · 12-09-2010, 10:49 PM

tinfoil hat much?

DBS.US · 12-09-2010, 10:59 PM

It's real life

billywatson · 12-09-2010, 11:06 PM

It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

Slutboat · 12-09-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

Interesting take... why would the performers fight for a less safe work environment... I guess if it meant that foreign productions started killing the US market?

Davy · 12-10-2010, 02:47 AM

Dry humping will be the new law.

Paul Markham · 12-10-2010, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

Interesting take... why would the performers fight for a less safe work environment... I guess if it meant that foreign productions started killing the US market?

Performers won't, producers might but the bill would be big. Could mean the EU producers reap the benefit.

Chosen · 12-10-2010, 03:42 AM

It would suck...

Twoface31 · 12-10-2010, 04:01 AM

interesting ummmmmmmmmmm

iSpyCams · 12-10-2010, 05:38 AM

This would definitely raise the value of non-US porn and most likely have a chilling effect on US porn production in general.

At least for me it would, I HATE condom porn.

seeandsee · 12-10-2010, 06:27 AM

i guess this should be not passed

Mutt · 12-10-2010, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

and you think there's a performer out there that's going to take this cause to court

he who does will be laughed out of court, it's a workplace not a swingers party, if the government made it a law there's nothing anybody could do about it. porn industry would move to a locale that doesn't enforce the law or to another state

adwank · 12-10-2010, 06:56 AM

That sucks...

ottopottomouse · 12-10-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

It's real life

Porn is fantasy though.

u-Bob · 12-10-2010, 08:05 AM

condoms in porn = big turn off.

sinclair · 12-10-2010, 08:15 AM

There really is something about the state of CA. Once you have been there long enough you really start to think you are the only state in the union.

Sinclair

Slutboat · 12-10-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sinclair

There really is something about the state of CA. Once you have been there long enough you really start to think you are the only state in the union.

Sinclair

I was thinking that if California enforced condom porn the other states would soon follow suit...

This could cause quite an upheaval in the biz - producers would be shooting in Baja and going all over to shoot unprotected porn - could be interesting actually - I like shooting a broad.

Agent 488 · 12-10-2010, 08:38 PM

hitler wore a condom.

SallyRand · 12-10-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

condom porn is kind of like boogie boarding compared to surfing, or low fat ice cream compared to Ben n Jerrys, it just aint quite the same.... any thoughts on the subject?

Well, all this shit is being promulgated by "liberals" and you are a self-professed "liberal", so why don't YOU tell us?

fatfoo · 12-10-2010, 08:50 PM

There is more sensitivity without a condom. I think it's about consent. If they both consent to doing something without condoms, then they can do it. If one of the partners requests condom, they should use a condom.

nation-x · 12-11-2010, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand

Well, all this shit is being promulgated by "liberals" and you are a self-professed "liberal", so why don't YOU tell us?

lol... wut?

2010 Constitution Party Platform

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Pornography, at best, is a distortion of the true nature of sex created by God for the procreative union between one man and one woman in the holy bonds of matrimony, and at worst, is a destructive element of society resulting in significant and real emotional, physical, spiritual and financial costs to individuals, families and communities. We call on our local, state and federal governments to uphold our cherished First Amendment right to free speech by vigorously enforcing our laws against obscenity to maintain a degree of separation between that which is truly speech and that which only seeks to distort and destroy.

2010 Wyoming State GOP Platform

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Supports vigorous enforcement of laws which are against pornography.

2010 Texas State GOP Platform

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We urge more stringent legislation to prohibit all pornography including virtual pornography and operation of sexually–oriented businesses.

2010 Oregon State GOP Platform

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We do not believe that pornography should be protected as free speech.

2009 South Carolina GOP Party Platform

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the South Carolina Republican Party stands for:
• A swift, sure, and true Criminal Justice system
• Opposition to state-sponsored Gambling
• High regard for the institutions of Marriage & Family
• The abolition of Pornography in our society
• The valid role of Religion in our culture
• Tougher efforts to stop Substance Abuse
• A compassionate and moral approach to Teen Pregnancy

2010 Idaho State GOP Party Platform

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Many of the ills of society can be attributed to the breakdown of the family. Many of the
problems facing the traditional family include, but are not limited to: pornography

2010 Kansas GOP Party Platform

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We oppose pornography in all forms as an indignity to the human person.

2010 Nebraska State GOP Party Platform

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We oppose pornography in all forms.

Number of Democratic Party platforms calling for the ban of pornography: ZERO

nation-x · 12-11-2010, 07:06 AM

For the record... the supporters of this condom use are supporting it because they are AIDS Activists and are responding to what the performers themselves are asking for... not because it's some liberal idea. The main proponent is the AIDS Healthcare Foundation which probably DOES get alot of funding and support from liberal sources... but to just say it's a liberal idea is ridiculous when you weigh the facts in the post above.

NemesisEnforcer · 12-11-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

I was thinking that if California enforced condom porn the other states would soon follow suit...

This could cause quite an upheaval in the biz - producers would be shooting in Baja and going all over to shoot unprotected porn - could be interesting actually - I like shooting a broad.

Condom in hetero porn doesn?t sell well. A condom mandate will certainly raise the demand for non-condom porn. Economically, this may be a blessing in disguise for the porn industry. Porn was being made in the US when it was illegal and it will continue to be made regardless. ?Deep Throat? grossed over $30 million despite all the obscenity prosecutions. Adjusted for inflation, that?s $158 million in 2010. Even with all the publicity and its size, Hustler only made $500K on the ?Who?s Nailin? Paylin? DVD.

With stricter laws, the barrier to entry will be higher and those with both the money and resources will thrive and profit handsomely. Think about prohibition and how the few made a killing selling alcohol, including the Kennedys. I?m sure you folks can think of other examples including the war on drugs, prostitution, etc.

cherrylula · 12-11-2010, 08:46 AM

Yes, California is wearing out the illegal immigrant thing, so they need to focus on people's sex preferences.

As soon as they get this thing passed, then they can start adding their per-condom fees and slap more taxes on birth control. It will be mandatory, unless you are an undocumented citizen, then you can have sex all you want and the state will even take care of the by-products (kids).

California is where it's at!

sinclair · 12-11-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

I was thinking that if California enforced condom porn the other states would soon follow suit...

This could cause quite an upheaval in the biz - producers would be shooting in Baja and going all over to shoot unprotected porn - could be interesting actually - I like shooting a broad.

Shooting porn in other states is a legal gray area. Name one politician that would move to back a bill enforcing condom use in porn, which may or may not supposed to be being shot in his state in the first place.

There is not doubt in my mind if Cal/OSHA begins to enforce the EXISTING law of condom use on port sets en mass, the industry would need to find another porn tolerant state to shoot in. At least until that states OSHA board moved to enforce its workplace safety practice guidelines.

But a federal level ban on non-condom porn being shot seems a bit of a stretch in my eyes. This is still at the end of the day being treated as an occupational safety issue.

Klen · 12-11-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

Condom in hetero porn doesn?t sell well. A condom mandate will certainly raise the demand for non-condom porn. Economically, this may be a blessing in disguise for the porn industry. Porn was being made in the US when it was illegal and it will continue to be made regardless. ?Deep Throat? grossed over $30 million despite all the obscenity prosecutions. Adjusted for inflation, that?s $158 million in 2010. Even with all the publicity and its size, Hustler only made $500K on the ?Who?s Nailin? Paylin? DVD.

With stricter laws, the barrier to entry will be higher and those with both the money and resources will thrive and profit handsomely. Think about prohibition and how the few made a killing selling alcohol, including the Kennedys. I?m sure you folks can think of other examples including the war on drugs, prostitution, etc.

No sense comparing deep throat and parody film since back then there was not much porn at all produced.

LeRoy · 12-11-2010, 09:05 AM

Nice analogy

Spongers suck!

cherrylula · 12-11-2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

For the record... the supporters of this condom use are supporting it because they are AIDS Activists and are responding to what the performers themselves are asking for... not because it's some liberal idea. The main proponent is the AIDS Healthcare Foundation which probably DOES get alot of funding and support from liberal sources... but to just say it's a liberal idea is ridiculous when you weigh the facts in the post above.

Where are these performers asking for mandatory condom use?? Who are they???

Of course its an AIDS charity thing. A totally preventable disease most people still get because they are stupid. But hey they need to raise money somehow.

Matyko · 12-11-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

hitler wore a condom.

Too bad his father didn't

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

condoms in porn = big turn off.

+1

DWB · 12-11-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

To have SEX without a condom, I agree. To WORK without a condom, I disagree.

The industry has mandatory HIV testing. Do the performers not have a right to choose if they want to test for HIV or not?

Think about job sites where workers MUST wear hard hats and steel toe boots, or any of the other zillion safety laws where OSHA can fine or shut down a company. A condom is no different. OSHA cracks a big, mean whip.

I would think the production side of the industry would move should condoms become mandatory.

What's left of porn will survive.

Slutboat · 12-11-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

lol... wut?

2010 Constitution Party Platform

2010 Wyoming State GOP Platform

2010 Texas State GOP Platform

2010 Oregon State GOP Platform

2009 South Carolina GOP Party Platform

2010 Idaho State GOP Party Platform

2010 Kansas GOP Party Platform

2010 Nebraska State GOP Party Platform

Number of Democratic Party platforms calling for the ban of pornography: ZERO

WOW - I didn't even have to lift a finger and you just outed the GFY Republicunts as the:

MOST SELF-HATING MOTHERFUCKERS ON THE PLANET

NemesisEnforcer · 12-11-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

... since back then there was not much porn at all produced.

Exactly, that's my point. By passing restrictive laws today, the companies/individuals with the least amount of resources will be forced out of business. Thus, less supply to meet the demand.

nation-x · 12-11-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

Where are these performers asking for mandatory condom use?? Who are they???

Of course its an AIDS charity thing. A totally preventable disease most people still get because they are stupid. But hey they need to raise money somehow.

Just one example... there are more.
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_16806437

davecummings · 12-11-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

Where are these performers asking for mandatory condom use?? Who are they???

Of course its an AIDS charity thing. A totally preventable disease most people still get because they are stupid. But hey they need to raise money somehow.

Other than a VERY few that I've heard of, we performers are fine with AIM testing and we aren't asking for condoms, NOT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pornlaw · 12-11-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by davecummings

Other than a VERY few that I've heard of, we performers are fine with AIM testing and we aren't asking for condoms, NOT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually Dave, some of you are. There are performers who have come out and have supported the idea of condom only productions.

It should be a performer's choice to shoot with or without a condom. I agree there are free speech issues that might trump employer safety laws. But then again there's the Commerce Clause stuck in there so the government feels as though they are allowed to regulate.

Either way, performer or producer, someone needs to step up and make a challenge to this law. At least force the state's hand. They dont want to lose this issue either and thus they might be willing to negotiate a better option for the industry than mandatory condoms. Remember the current law is not aimed at porn production but rather at hospitals and medical facilities. It might be weak enough to get it thrown out.

Cherry7 · 12-11-2010, 01:01 PM

This is a health issue for the performers who form the foundation of this industry. Monthly testing is no guarantee that one of the models didn't have unprotected sex with a 3rd party in that time.

Is the film worth a persons life?

If a couple live and work together - then no condom sex is possible. Lots of models only perform with their partners.

Strangers should use condoms. Not because of the law, but because it is the right thing to do.

Good chemistry between performers makes hot scenes, condoms are not important.

camperjohn64 · 12-11-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

Interesting take... why would the performers fight for a less safe work environment... I guess if it meant that foreign productions started killing the US market?

Let's take it a step further. Should everyone - EVERYONE in every office be forced to wear masks, goggles and rubber gloves?

You touch door handles that other people touch, your could spill your coffee and it splash on your co-worker. They could get infected with something? Maybe that person has AIDS or herpes. Let's brand everyone that has something - we could then know which trains they should get on and which "showers" to send them to.

Condom laws are just losers making it hard for other people. Shoot the lawyers.

brandonstills · 12-11-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

The gray area comes in because the performer is not making a statement, they are working for someone else as an employee. And that company is putting that employee at risk.

Thank you nanny nation.

Redrob · 12-11-2010, 03:28 PM

So many components to this argument and each is trying to affect the final outcome according to their individual goals in my opinion:

AHF - about power, money and control of AIDS services.

CALOSHA - work place safety enforcement

Social Conservatives - another way to hammer the industry and eventually kill it.

City and County Governments desire to enforce existing laws.

Free Speech Coalition - protect interest of adult industry.

AIM - provide confidential STD services to talent.

Talent - make a decent living in a safe environment.

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