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  • Slutboat
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    Condom porn going to be the new law?

    condom porn is kind of like boogie boarding compared to surfing, or low fat ice cream compared to Ben n Jerrys, it just aint quite the same.... any thoughts on the subject?
    Last edited by Slutboat; 12-09-2010, 08:50 PM.
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  • potter
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    #2
    tinfoil hat much?

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    • DBS.US
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      • billywatson
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        #4
        It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

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        • Slutboat
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          #5
          Originally posted by billywatson
          It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.
          Interesting take... why would the performers fight for a less safe work environment... I guess if it meant that foreign productions started killing the US market?
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          • Davy
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            #6
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            • Paul Markham
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              #7
              Originally posted by Slutboat
              Interesting take... why would the performers fight for a less safe work environment... I guess if it meant that foreign productions started killing the US market?
              Performers won't, producers might but the bill would be big. Could mean the EU producers reap the benefit.



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              • Chosen
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                #8
                It would suck...

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                • Twoface31
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                  #9
                  interesting ummmmmmmmmmm

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                  • iSpyCams
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                    #10
                    This would definitely raise the value of non-US porn and most likely have a chilling effect on US porn production in general.

                    At least for me it would, I HATE condom porn.
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                      • Mutt
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by billywatson
                        It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.
                        and you think there's a performer out there that's going to take this cause to court

                        he who does will be laughed out of court, it's a workplace not a swingers party, if the government made it a law there's nothing anybody could do about it. porn industry would move to a locale that doesn't enforce the law or to another state
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                        • adwank
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                          That sucks...
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                          • ottopottomouse
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by DBS.US
                            It's real life
                            Porn is fantasy though.
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                            • u-Bob
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                              #15
                              condoms in porn = big turn off.

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                              • sinclair
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                                #16
                                There really is something about the state of CA. Once you have been there long enough you really start to think you are the only state in the union.

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                                • Slutboat
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sinclair
                                  There really is something about the state of CA. Once you have been there long enough you really start to think you are the only state in the union.

                                  Sinclair
                                  I was thinking that if California enforced condom porn the other states would soon follow suit...

                                  This could cause quite an upheaval in the biz - producers would be shooting in Baja and going all over to shoot unprotected porn - could be interesting actually - I like shooting a broad.
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                                  • Agent 488
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                                    #18
                                    hitler wore a condom.

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                                    • SallyRand
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Slutboat
                                      condom porn is kind of like boogie boarding compared to surfing, or low fat ice cream compared to Ben n Jerrys, it just aint quite the same.... any thoughts on the subject?
                                      Well, all this shit is being promulgated by "liberals" and you are a self-professed "liberal", so why don't YOU tell us?

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                                      • fatfoo
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                                        #20
                                        There is more sensitivity without a condom. I think it's about consent. If they both consent to doing something without condoms, then they can do it. If one of the partners requests condom, they should use a condom.
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                                        • nation-x
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SallyRand
                                          Well, all this shit is being promulgated by "liberals" and you are a self-professed "liberal", so why don't YOU tell us?
                                          lol... wut?

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                                          • nation-x
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                                            #22
                                            For the record... the supporters of this condom use are supporting it because they are AIDS Activists and are responding to what the performers themselves are asking for... not because it's some liberal idea. The main proponent is the AIDS Healthcare Foundation which probably DOES get alot of funding and support from liberal sources... but to just say it's a liberal idea is ridiculous when you weigh the facts in the post above.

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                                            • NemesisEnforcer
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Slutboat
                                              I was thinking that if California enforced condom porn the other states would soon follow suit...

                                              This could cause quite an upheaval in the biz - producers would be shooting in Baja and going all over to shoot unprotected porn - could be interesting actually - I like shooting a broad.
                                              Condom in hetero porn doesn?t sell well. A condom mandate will certainly raise the demand for non-condom porn. Economically, this may be a blessing in disguise for the porn industry. Porn was being made in the US when it was illegal and it will continue to be made regardless. ?Deep Throat? grossed over $30 million despite all the obscenity prosecutions. Adjusted for inflation, that?s $158 million in 2010. Even with all the publicity and its size, Hustler only made $500K on the ?Who?s Nailin? Paylin? DVD.

                                              With stricter laws, the barrier to entry will be higher and those with both the money and resources will thrive and profit handsomely. Think about prohibition and how the few made a killing selling alcohol, including the Kennedys. I?m sure you folks can think of other examples including the war on drugs, prostitution, etc.
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                                              • cherrylula
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                                                #24
                                                Yes, California is wearing out the illegal immigrant thing, so they need to focus on people's sex preferences.

                                                As soon as they get this thing passed, then they can start adding their per-condom fees and slap more taxes on birth control. It will be mandatory, unless you are an undocumented citizen, then you can have sex all you want and the state will even take care of the by-products (kids).

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                                                • sinclair
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Slutboat
                                                  I was thinking that if California enforced condom porn the other states would soon follow suit...

                                                  This could cause quite an upheaval in the biz - producers would be shooting in Baja and going all over to shoot unprotected porn - could be interesting actually - I like shooting a broad.
                                                  Shooting porn in other states is a legal gray area. Name one politician that would move to back a bill enforcing condom use in porn, which may or may not supposed to be being shot in his state in the first place.

                                                  There is not doubt in my mind if Cal/OSHA begins to enforce the EXISTING law of condom use on port sets en mass, the industry would need to find another porn tolerant state to shoot in. At least until that states OSHA board moved to enforce its workplace safety practice guidelines.

                                                  But a federal level ban on non-condom porn being shot seems a bit of a stretch in my eyes. This is still at the end of the day being treated as an occupational safety issue.
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                                                  • Klen
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by NemesisEnforcer
                                                    Condom in hetero porn doesn?t sell well. A condom mandate will certainly raise the demand for non-condom porn. Economically, this may be a blessing in disguise for the porn industry. Porn was being made in the US when it was illegal and it will continue to be made regardless. ?Deep Throat? grossed over $30 million despite all the obscenity prosecutions. Adjusted for inflation, that?s $158 million in 2010. Even with all the publicity and its size, Hustler only made $500K on the ?Who?s Nailin? Paylin? DVD.

                                                    With stricter laws, the barrier to entry will be higher and those with both the money and resources will thrive and profit handsomely. Think about prohibition and how the few made a killing selling alcohol, including the Kennedys. I?m sure you folks can think of other examples including the war on drugs, prostitution, etc.
                                                    No sense comparing deep throat and parody film since back then there was not much porn at all produced.

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                                                    • LeRoy
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                                                      #27
                                                      Nice analogy

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                                                      • cherrylula
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by nation-x
                                                        For the record... the supporters of this condom use are supporting it because they are AIDS Activists and are responding to what the performers themselves are asking for... not because it's some liberal idea. The main proponent is the AIDS Healthcare Foundation which probably DOES get alot of funding and support from liberal sources... but to just say it's a liberal idea is ridiculous when you weigh the facts in the post above.
                                                        Where are these performers asking for mandatory condom use?? Who are they???

                                                        Of course its an AIDS charity thing. A totally preventable disease most people still get because they are stupid. But hey they need to raise money somehow.

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                                                        • Matyko
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                          hitler wore a condom.
                                                          Too bad his father didn't

                                                          Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                          condoms in porn = big turn off.
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                                                          • DWB
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by billywatson
                                                            It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.
                                                            To have SEX without a condom, I agree. To WORK without a condom, I disagree.

                                                            The industry has mandatory HIV testing. Do the performers not have a right to choose if they want to test for HIV or not?

                                                            Think about job sites where workers MUST wear hard hats and steel toe boots, or any of the other zillion safety laws where OSHA can fine or shut down a company. A condom is no different. OSHA cracks a big, mean whip.

                                                            I would think the production side of the industry would move should condoms become mandatory.

                                                            What's left of porn will survive.

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                                                            • Slutboat
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                                                              #31

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                                                              • NemesisEnforcer
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                ... since back then there was not much porn at all produced.
                                                                Exactly, that's my point. By passing restrictive laws today, the companies/individuals with the least amount of resources will be forced out of business. Thus, less supply to meet the demand.
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                                                                • nation-x
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by cherrylula
                                                                  Where are these performers asking for mandatory condom use?? Who are they???

                                                                  Of course its an AIDS charity thing. A totally preventable disease most people still get because they are stupid. But hey they need to raise money somehow.
                                                                  Just one example... there are more.
                                                                  http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_16806437

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                                                                  • davecummings
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by cherrylula
                                                                    Where are these performers asking for mandatory condom use?? Who are they???

                                                                    Of course its an AIDS charity thing. A totally preventable disease most people still get because they are stupid. But hey they need to raise money somehow.
                                                                    Other than a VERY few that I've heard of, we performers are fine with AIM testing and we aren't asking for condoms, NOT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                                    • pornlaw
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by davecummings
                                                                      Other than a VERY few that I've heard of, we performers are fine with AIM testing and we aren't asking for condoms, NOT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                      Actually Dave, some of you are. There are performers who have come out and have supported the idea of condom only productions.

                                                                      It should be a performer's choice to shoot with or without a condom. I agree there are free speech issues that might trump employer safety laws. But then again there's the Commerce Clause stuck in there so the government feels as though they are allowed to regulate.

                                                                      Either way, performer or producer, someone needs to step up and make a challenge to this law. At least force the state's hand. They dont want to lose this issue either and thus they might be willing to negotiate a better option for the industry than mandatory condoms. Remember the current law is not aimed at porn production but rather at hospitals and medical facilities. It might be weak enough to get it thrown out.
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                                                                      • Cherry7
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        This is a health issue for the performers who form the foundation of this industry. Monthly testing is no guarantee that one of the models didn't have unprotected sex with a 3rd party in that time.

                                                                        Is the film worth a persons life?

                                                                        If a couple live and work together - then no condom sex is possible. Lots of models only perform with their partners.

                                                                        Strangers should use condoms. Not because of the law, but because it is the right thing to do.

                                                                        Good chemistry between performers makes hot scenes, condoms are not important.
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                                                                        • camperjohn64
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Slutboat
                                                                          Interesting take... why would the performers fight for a less safe work environment... I guess if it meant that foreign productions started killing the US market?
                                                                          Let's take it a step further. Should everyone - EVERYONE in every office be forced to wear masks, goggles and rubber gloves?

                                                                          You touch door handles that other people touch, your could spill your coffee and it splash on your co-worker. They could get infected with something? Maybe that person has AIDS or herpes. Let's brand everyone that has something - we could then know which trains they should get on and which "showers" to send them to.

                                                                          Condom laws are just losers making it hard for other people. Shoot the lawyers.
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                                                                          • brandonstills
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by billywatson
                                                                            It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.
                                                                            The gray area comes in because the performer is not making a statement, they are working for someone else as an employee. And that company is putting that employee at risk.

                                                                            Thank you nanny nation.

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                                                                            • Redrob
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              So many components to this argument and each is trying to affect the final outcome according to their individual goals in my opinion:

                                                                              AHF - about power, money and control of AIDS services.

                                                                              CALOSHA - work place safety enforcement

                                                                              Social Conservatives - another way to hammer the industry and eventually kill it.

                                                                              City and County Governments desire to enforce existing laws.

                                                                              Free Speech Coalition - protect interest of adult industry.

                                                                              AIM - provide confidential STD services to talent.

                                                                              Talent - make a decent living in a safe environment.

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