GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Condom porn going to be the new law? (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1001355)

Slutboat 12-09-2010 10:48 PM

Condom porn going to be the new law?
 
condom porn is kind of like boogie boarding compared to surfing, or low fat ice cream compared to Ben n Jerrys, it just aint quite the same.... any thoughts on the subject?

potter 12-09-2010 10:49 PM

tinfoil hat much?

DBS.US 12-09-2010 10:59 PM

It's real life:2 cents:

billywatson 12-09-2010 11:06 PM

It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

Slutboat 12-09-2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17763926)
It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

Interesting take... why would the performers fight for a less safe work environment... I guess if it meant that foreign productions started killing the US market?

Davy 12-10-2010 02:47 AM

Dry humping will be the new law.

Paul Markham 12-10-2010 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17763932)
Interesting take... why would the performers fight for a less safe work environment... I guess if it meant that foreign productions started killing the US market?

Performers won't, producers might but the bill would be big. Could mean the EU producers reap the benefit.

Chosen 12-10-2010 03:42 AM

It would suck...

Twoface31 12-10-2010 04:01 AM

interesting ummmmmmmmmmm

iSpyCams 12-10-2010 05:38 AM

This would definitely raise the value of non-US porn and most likely have a chilling effect on US porn production in general.

At least for me it would, I HATE condom porn.

seeandsee 12-10-2010 06:27 AM

i guess this should be not passed

Mutt 12-10-2010 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17763926)
It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

and you think there's a performer out there that's going to take this cause to court

he who does will be laughed out of court, it's a workplace not a swingers party, if the government made it a law there's nothing anybody could do about it. porn industry would move to a locale that doesn't enforce the law or to another state

adwank 12-10-2010 06:56 AM

That sucks...

ottopottomouse 12-10-2010 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17763917)
It's real life:2 cents:

Porn is fantasy though.

u-Bob 12-10-2010 08:05 AM

condoms in porn = big turn off.

sinclair 12-10-2010 08:15 AM

There really is something about the state of CA. Once you have been there long enough you really start to think you are the only state in the union.

Sinclair

Slutboat 12-10-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinclair (Post 17764513)
There really is something about the state of CA. Once you have been there long enough you really start to think you are the only state in the union.

Sinclair

I was thinking that if California enforced condom porn the other states would soon follow suit...

This could cause quite an upheaval in the biz - producers would be shooting in Baja and going all over to shoot unprotected porn - could be interesting actually - I like shooting a broad.

Agent 488 12-10-2010 08:38 PM

hitler wore a condom.

SallyRand 12-10-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17763905)
condom porn is kind of like boogie boarding compared to surfing, or low fat ice cream compared to Ben n Jerrys, it just aint quite the same.... any thoughts on the subject?

Well, all this shit is being promulgated by "liberals" and you are a self-professed "liberal", so why don't YOU tell us?

fatfoo 12-10-2010 08:50 PM

There is more sensitivity without a condom. I think it's about consent. If they both consent to doing something without condoms, then they can do it. If one of the partners requests condom, they should use a condom.

nation-x 12-11-2010 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17766087)
Well, all this shit is being promulgated by "liberals" and you are a self-professed "liberal", so why don't YOU tell us?

lol... wut?

2010 Constitution Party Platform
Quote:

Pornography, at best, is a distortion of the true nature of sex created by God for the procreative union between one man and one woman in the holy bonds of matrimony, and at worst, is a destructive element of society resulting in significant and real emotional, physical, spiritual and financial costs to individuals, families and communities. We call on our local, state and federal governments to uphold our cherished First Amendment right to free speech by vigorously enforcing our laws against obscenity to maintain a degree of separation between that which is truly speech and that which only seeks to distort and destroy.
2010 Wyoming State GOP Platform
Quote:

Supports vigorous enforcement of laws which are against pornography.
2010 Texas State GOP Platform
Quote:

We urge more stringent legislation to prohibit all pornography including virtual pornography and operation of sexually–oriented businesses.
2010 Oregon State GOP Platform
Quote:

We do not believe that pornography should be protected as free speech.
2009 South Carolina GOP Party Platform
Quote:

the South Carolina Republican Party stands for:
• A swift, sure, and true Criminal Justice system
• Opposition to state-sponsored Gambling
• High regard for the institutions of Marriage & Family
• The abolition of Pornography in our society
• The valid role of Religion in our culture
• Tougher efforts to stop Substance Abuse
• A compassionate and moral approach to Teen Pregnancy
2010 Idaho State GOP Party Platform
Quote:

Many of the ills of society can be attributed to the breakdown of the family. Many of the
problems facing the traditional family include, but are not limited to: pornography
2010 Kansas GOP Party Platform
Quote:

We oppose pornography in all forms as an indignity to the human person.
2010 Nebraska State GOP Party Platform
Quote:

We oppose pornography in all forms.
Number of Democratic Party platforms calling for the ban of pornography: ZERO

nation-x 12-11-2010 07:06 AM

For the record... the supporters of this condom use are supporting it because they are AIDS Activists and are responding to what the performers themselves are asking for... not because it's some liberal idea. The main proponent is the AIDS Healthcare Foundation which probably DOES get alot of funding and support from liberal sources... but to just say it's a liberal idea is ridiculous when you weigh the facts in the post above.

NemesisEnforcer 12-11-2010 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17766062)
I was thinking that if California enforced condom porn the other states would soon follow suit...

This could cause quite an upheaval in the biz - producers would be shooting in Baja and going all over to shoot unprotected porn - could be interesting actually - I like shooting a broad.

Condom in hetero porn doesn?t sell well. A condom mandate will certainly raise the demand for non-condom porn. Economically, this may be a blessing in disguise for the porn industry. Porn was being made in the US when it was illegal and it will continue to be made regardless. ?Deep Throat? grossed over $30 million despite all the obscenity prosecutions. Adjusted for inflation, that?s $158 million in 2010. Even with all the publicity and its size, Hustler only made $500K on the ?Who?s Nailin? Paylin? DVD.

With stricter laws, the barrier to entry will be higher and those with both the money and resources will thrive and profit handsomely. Think about prohibition and how the few made a killing selling alcohol, including the Kennedys. I?m sure you folks can think of other examples including the war on drugs, prostitution, etc.

cherrylula 12-11-2010 08:46 AM

Yes, California is wearing out the illegal immigrant thing, so they need to focus on people's sex preferences.

As soon as they get this thing passed, then they can start adding their per-condom fees and slap more taxes on birth control. It will be mandatory, unless you are an undocumented citizen, then you can have sex all you want and the state will even take care of the by-products (kids).

California is where it's at! :1orglaugh

sinclair 12-11-2010 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17766062)
I was thinking that if California enforced condom porn the other states would soon follow suit...

This could cause quite an upheaval in the biz - producers would be shooting in Baja and going all over to shoot unprotected porn - could be interesting actually - I like shooting a broad.

Shooting porn in other states is a legal gray area. Name one politician that would move to back a bill enforcing condom use in porn, which may or may not supposed to be being shot in his state in the first place.

There is not doubt in my mind if Cal/OSHA begins to enforce the EXISTING law of condom use on port sets en mass, the industry would need to find another porn tolerant state to shoot in. At least until that states OSHA board moved to enforce its workplace safety practice guidelines.

But a federal level ban on non-condom porn being shot seems a bit of a stretch in my eyes. This is still at the end of the day being treated as an occupational safety issue.

Klen 12-11-2010 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer (Post 17766652)
Condom in hetero porn doesn?t sell well. A condom mandate will certainly raise the demand for non-condom porn. Economically, this may be a blessing in disguise for the porn industry. Porn was being made in the US when it was illegal and it will continue to be made regardless. ?Deep Throat? grossed over $30 million despite all the obscenity prosecutions. Adjusted for inflation, that?s $158 million in 2010. Even with all the publicity and its size, Hustler only made $500K on the ?Who?s Nailin? Paylin? DVD.

With stricter laws, the barrier to entry will be higher and those with both the money and resources will thrive and profit handsomely. Think about prohibition and how the few made a killing selling alcohol, including the Kennedys. I?m sure you folks can think of other examples including the war on drugs, prostitution, etc.

No sense comparing deep throat and parody film since back then there was not much porn at all produced.

LeRoy 12-11-2010 09:05 AM

Nice analogy :)

Spongers suck!

cherrylula 12-11-2010 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 17766561)
For the record... the supporters of this condom use are supporting it because they are AIDS Activists and are responding to what the performers themselves are asking for... not because it's some liberal idea. The main proponent is the AIDS Healthcare Foundation which probably DOES get alot of funding and support from liberal sources... but to just say it's a liberal idea is ridiculous when you weigh the facts in the post above.

Where are these performers asking for mandatory condom use?? Who are they???

Of course its an AIDS charity thing. A totally preventable disease most people still get because they are stupid. But hey they need to raise money somehow.

Matyko 12-11-2010 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17766073)
hitler wore a condom.

Too bad his father didn't :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17764491)
condoms in porn = big turn off.

+1 :pimp :2 cents:

DWB 12-11-2010 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17763926)
It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

To have SEX without a condom, I agree. To WORK without a condom, I disagree.

The industry has mandatory HIV testing. Do the performers not have a right to choose if they want to test for HIV or not?

Think about job sites where workers MUST wear hard hats and steel toe boots, or any of the other zillion safety laws where OSHA can fine or shut down a company. A condom is no different. OSHA cracks a big, mean whip.

I would think the production side of the industry would move should condoms become mandatory.

What's left of porn will survive.

Slutboat 12-11-2010 10:50 AM


WOW - I didn't even have to lift a finger and you just outed the GFY Republicunts as the:

MOST SELF-HATING MOTHERFUCKERS ON THE PLANET

NemesisEnforcer 12-11-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17766668)
... since back then there was not much porn at all produced.

Exactly, that's my point. By passing restrictive laws today, the companies/individuals with the least amount of resources will be forced out of business. Thus, less supply to meet the demand.

nation-x 12-11-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 17766686)
Where are these performers asking for mandatory condom use?? Who are they???

Of course its an AIDS charity thing. A totally preventable disease most people still get because they are stupid. But hey they need to raise money somehow.

Just one example... there are more.
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_16806437

davecummings 12-11-2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 17766686)
Where are these performers asking for mandatory condom use?? Who are they???

Of course its an AIDS charity thing. A totally preventable disease most people still get because they are stupid. But hey they need to raise money somehow.

Other than a VERY few that I've heard of, we performers are fine with AIM testing and we aren't asking for condoms, NOT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pornlaw 12-11-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 17766861)
Other than a VERY few that I've heard of, we performers are fine with AIM testing and we aren't asking for condoms, NOT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually Dave, some of you are. There are performers who have come out and have supported the idea of condom only productions.

It should be a performer's choice to shoot with or without a condom. I agree there are free speech issues that might trump employer safety laws. But then again there's the Commerce Clause stuck in there so the government feels as though they are allowed to regulate.

Either way, performer or producer, someone needs to step up and make a challenge to this law. At least force the state's hand. They dont want to lose this issue either and thus they might be willing to negotiate a better option for the industry than mandatory condoms. Remember the current law is not aimed at porn production but rather at hospitals and medical facilities. It might be weak enough to get it thrown out.

Cherry7 12-11-2010 01:01 PM

This is a health issue for the performers who form the foundation of this industry. Monthly testing is no guarantee that one of the models didn't have unprotected sex with a 3rd party in that time.

Is the film worth a persons life?

If a couple live and work together - then no condom sex is possible. Lots of models only perform with their partners.

Strangers should use condoms. Not because of the law, but because it is the right thing to do.

Good chemistry between performers makes hot scenes, condoms are not important.

camperjohn64 12-11-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17763932)
Interesting take... why would the performers fight for a less safe work environment... I guess if it meant that foreign productions started killing the US market?

Let's take it a step further. Should everyone - EVERYONE in every office be forced to wear masks, goggles and rubber gloves?

You touch door handles that other people touch, your could spill your coffee and it splash on your co-worker. They could get infected with something? Maybe that person has AIDS or herpes. Let's brand everyone that has something - we could then know which trains they should get on and which "showers" to send them to.

Condom laws are just losers making it hard for other people. Shoot the lawyers.

brandonstills 12-11-2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17763926)
It's a performer's First Amendment right to work without a condom, and if this becomes law, someone's gonna have to step up to the plate with their lawyer and go to work.

The gray area comes in because the performer is not making a statement, they are working for someone else as an employee. And that company is putting that employee at risk.

Thank you nanny nation.

Redrob 12-11-2010 03:28 PM

So many components to this argument and each is trying to affect the final outcome according to their individual goals in my opinion:

AHF - about power, money and control of AIDS services.

CALOSHA - work place safety enforcement

Social Conservatives - another way to hammer the industry and eventually kill it.

City and County Governments desire to enforce existing laws.

Free Speech Coalition - protect interest of adult industry.

AIM - provide confidential STD services to talent.

Talent - make a decent living in a safe environment.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:18 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123