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96ukssob · 12-08-2010, 09:52 PM

So talking with someone today, who is pretty big into politics, we got into a conversation about the whole wikileaks thing.

I heard about this, but wasn't aware (and not exactly how true this is) but a bill is supposed to be pushed to be passed on Dec 21st that imposes government protection on the internet.

Hmmm, got me thinking.... Julian Assange, is he just a pawn in this whole thing? someone to make an example out of to prove why the gov't needs to step in and take action?

We saw some pretty big sites go down today and who knows what else is possible. Will this be used against us as a fear tactic? "Don't worry citizens, the gov't has your back."

Not trying to get into conspiracies, but just seems a bit coincidental...

That or I've had to many drinks tonight

seeric · 12-08-2010, 10:06 PM

american history has witnessed many government slight of hands, setups, meddlings and misdealings many times over before. why not now?

WinstonTriplexcash · 12-08-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by seeric

american history has witnessed many government slight of hands, setups, meddlings and misdealings many times over before. why not now?

the powers that be...

tiger · 12-08-2010, 10:20 PM

I would doubt he is a pawn but it doesn't matter they will use this situation to do what you said either way.

izzynew · 12-08-2010, 10:21 PM

My thoughts too. The whole wikileaks thing has been pushed on us, but in a way that makes people think they rebelling against the government by supporting it.
So yeah, this does look coincidental to the bill on Dec 21st. And I don't believe in coincidences.

pOrRiDgE · 12-08-2010, 11:17 PM

Ive NEVER done anything wrong, why the fuck do these people want me killed?

Ron Bennett · 12-08-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

So talking with someone today, who is pretty big into politics, we got into a conversation about the whole wikileaks thing.

I heard about this, but wasn't aware (and not exactly how true this is) but a bill is supposed to be pushed to be passed on Dec 21st that imposes government protection on the internet.

Hmmm, got me thinking.... Julian Assange, is he just a pawn in this whole thing? someone to make an example out of to prove why the gov't needs to step in and take action?

We saw some pretty big sites go down today and who knows what else is possible. Will this be used against us as a fear tactic? "Don't worry citizens, the gov't has your back."

Not trying to get into conspiracies, but just seems a bit coincidental...

That or I've had to many drinks tonight

Not crazy at all.

Many people, including myself, have similar thoughts regarding Wikileaks being a diversion / pretext for the government to enact new laws to "protect" the internet.

Here's something to consider ...

About a week or so ago the U.S. government seized about 80 internet domains for distributing pirated content / counterfeit goods ... and yet the U.S. government, as of this moment, has NOT seized wikileaks.org - why is that?

Furthermore, why is Wikileaks not designated as a terrorist organization?

And that's wven more strange considering that numerous other, often small obscure entities that are of little real threat, are considered terrorist organizations, and yet, to reiterate, Wikileaks isn't...

Further supports the theory that the U.S. government wants Wikileaks to remain around / stay in the news.

On a related note, from the info I've read regarding Wikileaks - nothing of any real significance has been revealed that wasn't already publicly known / widely suspected / available via FOIA.

Lastly, in my view, if Wikileaks had acquired truly secret / earth-shattering info, the site would have never seen the light of day; wouldn't be in the news.

Ron

Barry-xlovecam · 12-09-2010, 01:05 AM

There are consequences in embarrassing or exposing powerful people ...

What I see being of greater trouble is the recent ddos attacks in support of Wikileaks. These attacks are blatantly illegal and easily justify harsh laws in the theater of public opinion. In short ? these attacks are a major screw up ...

seeandsee · 12-09-2010, 05:31 AM

it's 911 of interwebs!

CaptainHowdy · 12-09-2010, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

it's 911 of interwebs!

Insomniak · 12-09-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

About a week or so ago the U.S. government seized about 80 internet domains for distributing pirated content / counterfeit goods ... and yet the U.S. government, as of this moment, has NOT seized wikileaks.org - why is that?

Uh, actually they DID take wikileaks.org last week.

It was moved to wikileaks.ch and 1000 (Literally) other mirrors.

I don't think there is any question that the government wants to use wikileaks to support their campaign against net neutrality, the question is if they are just taking advantage of the current situation or if they set it up on purpose. I think the former but my friend is convinced Assange is a shill.

Dcat · 12-09-2010, 01:03 PM

IMO. This IS America's Cyber 911, but no one can quite see it for what it is yet.

It will become very clear soon enough.

Phoenix · 12-09-2010, 01:11 PM

cool theory..lets hope its not true..lol

would legit content distributors be allowed online only though...that might be hella cool

held to accountability and ownership
no more porn for free access to minors

Ron Bennett · 12-09-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Insomniak

Uh, actually they DID take wikileaks.org last week.

Nope. The wikileaks.org domain has not been seized; active status at the PIR (.org) registry.

However, about a week ago the dns provider Everydns stopped providing service for that domain and hence it's no longer resolving.

However, to reiterate, the status of the wikileaks.org domain hasn't changed in months - has not been seized.

Very strange considering the U.S. government did seized numerous other domains lately for lessor reasons, including content piracy and counterfeit goods.

Bottom line, in my view, the U.S. government helped facilitate the operators of Wikileaks and wants it to remain around - at least in the news headlines for both diversionary and strategic reasons, such as enacting new stringent laws regulating internet communications.

Ron

dyna mo · 12-09-2010, 02:17 PM

the government's left hand has no idea what the government's right hand is doing.

proof:

These are some of the findings of a two-year investigation by The Washington Post that discovered what amounts to an alternative geography of the United States, a Top Secret America hidden from public view and lacking in thorough oversight. After nine years of unprecedented spending and growth, the result is that the system put in place to keep the United States safe is so massive that its effectiveness is impossible to determine.

The investigation's other findings include:

* Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.

* An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

* In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings - about 17 million square feet of space.

MetaMan · 12-09-2010, 02:39 PM

I said this in another thread

12-08-2010, 09:52 PM	#1
96ukssob So Fucking Banananananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: If I was in your ass you'd know it Posts: 12,991	Crazy Thoughts On The Recent Interwebs Attacks So talking with someone today, who is pretty big into politics, we got into a conversation about the whole wikileaks thing. I heard about this, but wasn't aware (and not exactly how true this is) but a bill is supposed to be pushed to be passed on Dec 21st that imposes government protection on the internet. Hmmm, got me thinking.... Julian Assange, is he just a pawn in this whole thing? someone to make an example out of to prove why the gov't needs to step in and take action? We saw some pretty big sites go down today and who knows what else is possible. Will this be used against us as a fear tactic? "Don't worry citizens, the gov't has your back." Not trying to get into conspiracies, but just seems a bit coincidental... That or I've had to many drinks tonight __________________ Email: Clicky on Me

12-08-2010, 10:20 PM	#4
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12-08-2010, 10:06 PM	#2
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izzynew Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 174	My thoughts too. The whole wikileaks thing has been pushed on us, but in a way that makes people think they rebelling against the government by supporting it. So yeah, this does look coincidental to the bill on Dec 21st. And I don't believe in coincidences.

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Dcat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mexico Posts: 1,607	IMO. This IS America's Cyber 911, but no one can quite see it for what it is yet. It will become very clear soon enough.

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Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,462	cool theory..lets hope its not true..lol would legit content distributors be allowed online only though...that might be hella cool held to accountability and ownership no more porn for free access to minors __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

12-09-2010, 02:17 PM	#15
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,384	the government's left hand has no idea what the government's right hand is doing. proof: These are some of the findings of a two-year investigation by The Washington Post that discovered what amounts to an alternative geography of the United States, a Top Secret America hidden from public view and lacking in thorough oversight. After nine years of unprecedented spending and growth, the result is that the system put in place to keep the United States safe is so massive that its effectiveness is impossible to determine. The investigation's other findings include: * Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States. * An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances. * In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings - about 17 million square feet of space.

12-09-2010, 02:39 PM	#16
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	I said this in another thread