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96ukssob 12-08-2010 09:52 PM

Crazy Thoughts On The Recent Interwebs Attacks
 
So talking with someone today, who is pretty big into politics, we got into a conversation about the whole wikileaks thing.

I heard about this, but wasn't aware (and not exactly how true this is) but a bill is supposed to be pushed to be passed on Dec 21st that imposes government protection on the internet.

Hmmm, got me thinking.... Julian Assange, is he just a pawn in this whole thing? someone to make an example out of to prove why the gov't needs to step in and take action?

We saw some pretty big sites go down today and who knows what else is possible. Will this be used against us as a fear tactic? "Don't worry citizens, the gov't has your back."

Not trying to get into conspiracies, but just seems a bit coincidental...

That or I've had to many drinks tonight :1orglaugh

seeric 12-08-2010 10:06 PM

american history has witnessed many government slight of hands, setups, meddlings and misdealings many times over before. why not now?

WinstonTriplexcash 12-08-2010 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 17761114)
american history has witnessed many government slight of hands, setups, meddlings and misdealings many times over before. why not now?

the powers that be...

tiger 12-08-2010 10:20 PM

I would doubt he is a pawn but it doesn't matter they will use this situation to do what you said either way.

izzynew 12-08-2010 10:21 PM

My thoughts too. The whole wikileaks thing has been pushed on us, but in a way that makes people think they rebelling against the government by supporting it.
So yeah, this does look coincidental to the bill on Dec 21st. And I don't believe in coincidences.

pOrRiDgE 12-08-2010 11:17 PM

Ive NEVER done anything wrong, why the fuck do these people want me killed?

Ron Bennett 12-08-2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 17761097)
So talking with someone today, who is pretty big into politics, we got into a conversation about the whole wikileaks thing.

I heard about this, but wasn't aware (and not exactly how true this is) but a bill is supposed to be pushed to be passed on Dec 21st that imposes government protection on the internet.

Hmmm, got me thinking.... Julian Assange, is he just a pawn in this whole thing? someone to make an example out of to prove why the gov't needs to step in and take action?

We saw some pretty big sites go down today and who knows what else is possible. Will this be used against us as a fear tactic? "Don't worry citizens, the gov't has your back."

Not trying to get into conspiracies, but just seems a bit coincidental...

That or I've had to many drinks tonight :1orglaugh

Not crazy at all.

Many people, including myself, have similar thoughts regarding Wikileaks being a diversion / pretext for the government to enact new laws to "protect" the internet.

Here's something to consider ...

About a week or so ago the U.S. government seized about 80 internet domains for distributing pirated content / counterfeit goods ... and yet the U.S. government, as of this moment, has NOT seized wikileaks.org - why is that?

Furthermore, why is Wikileaks not designated as a terrorist organization?

And that's wven more strange considering that numerous other, often small obscure entities that are of little real threat, are considered terrorist organizations, and yet, to reiterate, Wikileaks isn't...

Further supports the theory that the U.S. government wants Wikileaks to remain around / stay in the news.

On a related note, from the info I've read regarding Wikileaks - nothing of any real significance has been revealed that wasn't already publicly known / widely suspected / available via FOIA.

Lastly, in my view, if Wikileaks had acquired truly secret / earth-shattering info, the site would have never seen the light of day; wouldn't be in the news.

Ron

Barry-xlovecam 12-09-2010 01:05 AM

There are consequences in embarrassing or exposing powerful people ...

What I see being of greater trouble is the recent ddos attacks in support of Wikileaks. These attacks are blatantly illegal and easily justify harsh laws in the theater of public opinion. In short ? these attacks are a major screw up ...

seeandsee 12-09-2010 05:31 AM

it's 911 of interwebs!

CaptainHowdy 12-09-2010 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17761579)
it's 911 of interwebs!

http://www.reddirtreport.com/images/...eption_002.JPG

Insomniak 12-09-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 17761240)
About a week or so ago the U.S. government seized about 80 internet domains for distributing pirated content / counterfeit goods ... and yet the U.S. government, as of this moment, has NOT seized wikileaks.org - why is that?

Uh, actually they DID take wikileaks.org last week.

It was moved to wikileaks.ch and 1000 (Literally) other mirrors.

I don't think there is any question that the government wants to use wikileaks to support their campaign against net neutrality, the question is if they are just taking advantage of the current situation or if they set it up on purpose. I think the former but my friend is convinced Assange is a shill.

Dcat 12-09-2010 01:03 PM

IMO. This IS America's Cyber 911, but no one can quite see it for what it is yet.

It will become very clear soon enough.

Phoenix 12-09-2010 01:11 PM

cool theory..lets hope its not true..lol

would legit content distributors be allowed online only though...that might be hella cool

held to accountability and ownership
no more porn for free access to minors

Ron Bennett 12-09-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Insomniak (Post 17762699)
Uh, actually they DID take wikileaks.org last week.

Nope. The wikileaks.org domain has not been seized; active status at the PIR (.org) registry.

However, about a week ago the dns provider Everydns stopped providing service for that domain and hence it's no longer resolving.

However, to reiterate, the status of the wikileaks.org domain hasn't changed in months - has not been seized.

Very strange considering the U.S. government did seized numerous other domains lately for lessor reasons, including content piracy and counterfeit goods.

Bottom line, in my view, the U.S. government helped facilitate the operators of Wikileaks and wants it to remain around - at least in the news headlines for both diversionary and strategic reasons, such as enacting new stringent laws regulating internet communications.

Ron

dyna mo 12-09-2010 02:17 PM

the government's left hand has no idea what the government's right hand is doing.

proof:

These are some of the findings of a two-year investigation by The Washington Post that discovered what amounts to an alternative geography of the United States, a Top Secret America hidden from public view and lacking in thorough oversight. After nine years of unprecedented spending and growth, the result is that the system put in place to keep the United States safe is so massive that its effectiveness is impossible to determine.

The investigation's other findings include:

* Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.

* An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

* In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings - about 17 million square feet of space.

MetaMan 12-09-2010 02:39 PM

I said this in another thread :)


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