NATS Rebills Are Being Counted but I am Getting $0.00 - GoFuckYourself.com

TheSenator · 12-04-2010, 07:57 AM

My NATS rebills are being counted but I am getting $0.00.

What featured has the affiliate program owner turned on or off in the NATS admin area for this to happen?

signupdamnit · 12-04-2010, 07:59 AM

Weren't you just at their NATS 4.1 demonstration or was that someone else? Just curious.

Machete_ · 12-04-2010, 08:03 AM

your sales didn't pass the sniff test

TheSenator · 12-04-2010, 08:04 AM

Here is what I am talking about...

TheSwed · 12-04-2010, 08:05 AM

Read this thread
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1000456

TheSenator · 12-04-2010, 08:08 AM

and it seems like it is happening again this period.

What would caused this? This is the first time I have seen this in NATS and I promote a lot of NATS sites.

TheSenator · 12-04-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSwed

Read this thread
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1000456

Has nothing to do with my situation.

TheSwed · 12-04-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

Has nothing to do with my situation.

maybe not..but looks like Nats have some problem

TMM_John · 12-04-2010, 08:13 AM

Most likely, either they have the rebill payout set to $0, or their stats are showing rebills of PPS sales due to misconfiguration.

TheSenator · 12-04-2010, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

Most likely, either they have the rebill payout set to $0, or their stats are showing rebills of PPS sales due to misconfiguration.

An affiliate owner can set rebills to $0 whenever they want?

I have a mix or revshare and PPS currently with this program.

A nice feature for NATS 4.1 would be to click on the rebill and it would send you to the "Subscription Info" page.

signupdamnit · 12-04-2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

Most likely, either they have the rebill payout set to $0, or their stats are showing rebills of PPS sales due to misconfiguration.

John,

Is there some sort of affiliate accessible display in NATS which will show many of the affiliate relevant configuration settings sort of as there is in CCBill under Tools (i.e. credit for rebills, percentage) ? IMO, increasing transparency as much as reasonably possible would be good in regards to building trust.

TMM_John · 12-04-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

John,

Is there some sort of affiliate accessible display in NATS which will show many of the affiliate relevant configuration settings sort of as there is in CCBill under Tools (i.e. credit for rebills, percentage) ? IMO, increasing transparency as much as reasonably possible would be good in regards to building trust.

The default non-logged in programs page lists this.

TMM_John · 12-04-2010, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

An affiliate owner can set rebills to $0 whenever they want?

I have a mix or revshare and PPS currently with this program.

A nice feature for NATS 4.1 would be to click on the rebill and it would send you to the "Subscription Info" page.

Program owners can adjust their payouts.

Most likely it is showing rebills from PPS sales. If you'd like, have the program owner submit a ticket and we can verify of course.

Yes, 4.1 will have better subscription related stats details such as what you are mentioning here

CamTraffic · 12-04-2010, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

Program owners can adjust their payouts.

Most likely it is showing rebills from PPS sales. If you'd like, have the program owner submit a ticket and we can verify of course.

Yes, 4.1 will have better subscription related stats details such as what you are mentioning here

Bingo, i have seen it in the past, if you are set to PPS and you see rebills month after month you can't help but calculating the amount of $$ you could have made.

Wilsy · 12-04-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

My NATS rebills are being counted but I am getting $0.00.

What featured has the affiliate program owner turned on or off in the NATS admin area for this to happen?

We had the same problem the other week.
turns out is was a ccbill datalink problem and when nats eventually got the data, it over counted but the amounts were correct.

epitome · 12-04-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Bingo, i have seen it in the past, if you are set to PPS and you see rebills month after month you can't help but calculating the amount of $$ you could have made.

I *WANT* to see that. It helps me evaluate which will make me more money. I love when PPS programs have that feature turned on in NATS4.

Agent 488 · 12-04-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I *WANT* to see that. It helps me evaluate which will make me more money. I love when PPS programs have that feature turned on in NATS4.

standahead does that now. they are in your sig.

munki · 12-04-2010, 12:53 PM

Looks like a fuck up in program payout options as John pointed out, the important verification would be whether these were from PPS or a RevShare

TheSenator · 12-04-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by munki

Looks like a fuck up in program payout options as John pointed out, the important verification would be whether these were from PPS or a RevShare

Yeah, I'll hit up the affiliate rep on Monday and have them sent in a ticket.

My understanding is the an affiliate program owner can change the rebill option to $0.00 but still show rebill counts on either revshare or PPS.

iSpyCams · 12-04-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

Yeah, I'll hit up the affiliate rep on Monday and have them sent in a ticket.

My understanding is the an affiliate program owner can change the rebill option to $0.00 but still show rebill counts on either revshare or PPS.

I run NATS with a group of inhouse affiliates, and some beta testers.

In my experience, even if I change payouts, sales that were made prior to the change continue to reflect the payout options that were current at the time of sale.

So program operators cannot fuck affiliate by putting rebills at 0 after the sale is made on a revshare program. (at least not without getting into the code and fucking with it)

IllTestYourGirls · 12-04-2010, 04:18 PM

Mofoscash has that happen when a PPS rebills.

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