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TheSenator 12-04-2010 07:57 AM

NATS Rebills Are Being Counted but I am Getting $0.00
 
My NATS rebills are being counted but I am getting $0.00.

What featured has the affiliate program owner turned on or off in the NATS admin area for this to happen?

signupdamnit 12-04-2010 07:59 AM

Weren't you just at their NATS 4.1 demonstration or was that someone else? Just curious.

Machete_ 12-04-2010 08:03 AM

your sales didn't pass the sniff test

TheSenator 12-04-2010 08:04 AM

Here is what I am talking about...
http://www.iseekgirls.com/stats/nats-stats-001.jpg

TheSwed 12-04-2010 08:05 AM

Read this thread
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1000456
:error

TheSenator 12-04-2010 08:08 AM

and it seems like it is happening again this period.

What would caused this? This is the first time I have seen this in NATS and I promote a lot of NATS sites.

http://www.iseekgirls.com/stats/nats-stats-002.jpg

TheSenator 12-04-2010 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed (Post 17749023)

Has nothing to do with my situation.

TheSwed 12-04-2010 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17749062)
Has nothing to do with my situation.

maybe not..but looks like Nats have some problem

TMM_John 12-04-2010 08:13 AM

Most likely, either they have the rebill payout set to $0, or their stats are showing rebills of PPS sales due to misconfiguration.

TheSenator 12-04-2010 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 17749078)
Most likely, either they have the rebill payout set to $0, or their stats are showing rebills of PPS sales due to misconfiguration.

An affiliate owner can set rebills to $0 whenever they want?

I have a mix or revshare and PPS currently with this program.

A nice feature for NATS 4.1 would be to click on the rebill and it would send you to the "Subscription Info" page.

signupdamnit 12-04-2010 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 17749078)
Most likely, either they have the rebill payout set to $0, or their stats are showing rebills of PPS sales due to misconfiguration.

John,

Is there some sort of affiliate accessible display in NATS which will show many of the affiliate relevant configuration settings sort of as there is in CCBill under Tools (i.e. credit for rebills, percentage) ? IMO, increasing transparency as much as reasonably possible would be good in regards to building trust.

TMM_John 12-04-2010 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17749102)
John,

Is there some sort of affiliate accessible display in NATS which will show many of the affiliate relevant configuration settings sort of as there is in CCBill under Tools (i.e. credit for rebills, percentage) ? IMO, increasing transparency as much as reasonably possible would be good in regards to building trust.

The default non-logged in programs page lists this.

TMM_John 12-04-2010 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17749097)
An affiliate owner can set rebills to $0 whenever they want?

I have a mix or revshare and PPS currently with this program.

A nice feature for NATS 4.1 would be to click on the rebill and it would send you to the "Subscription Info" page.

Program owners can adjust their payouts.

Most likely it is showing rebills from PPS sales. If you'd like, have the program owner submit a ticket and we can verify of course.

Yes, 4.1 will have better subscription related stats details such as what you are mentioning here :)

CamTraffic 12-04-2010 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 17749142)
Program owners can adjust their payouts.

Most likely it is showing rebills from PPS sales. If you'd like, have the program owner submit a ticket and we can verify of course.

Yes, 4.1 will have better subscription related stats details such as what you are mentioning here :)

Bingo, i have seen it in the past, if you are set to PPS and you see rebills month after month you can't help but calculating the amount of $$ you could have made.

Wilsy 12-04-2010 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17748967)
My NATS rebills are being counted but I am getting $0.00.

What featured has the affiliate program owner turned on or off in the NATS admin area for this to happen?

We had the same problem the other week.
turns out is was a ccbill datalink problem and when nats eventually got the data, it over counted but the amounts were correct.

epitome 12-04-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 17749153)
Bingo, i have seen it in the past, if you are set to PPS and you see rebills month after month you can't help but calculating the amount of $$ you could have made.

I *WANT* to see that. It helps me evaluate which will make me more money. I love when PPS programs have that feature turned on in NATS4.

Agent 488 12-04-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17749560)
I *WANT* to see that. It helps me evaluate which will make me more money. I love when PPS programs have that feature turned on in NATS4.

standahead does that now. they are in your sig.

munki 12-04-2010 12:53 PM

Looks like a fuck up in program payout options as John pointed out, the important verification would be whether these were from PPS or a RevShare

TheSenator 12-04-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munki (Post 17749789)
Looks like a fuck up in program payout options as John pointed out, the important verification would be whether these were from PPS or a RevShare

Yeah, I'll hit up the affiliate rep on Monday and have them sent in a ticket.

My understanding is the an affiliate program owner can change the rebill option to $0.00 but still show rebill counts on either revshare or PPS.

iSpyCams 12-04-2010 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17750056)
Yeah, I'll hit up the affiliate rep on Monday and have them sent in a ticket.

My understanding is the an affiliate program owner can change the rebill option to $0.00 but still show rebill counts on either revshare or PPS.

I run NATS with a group of inhouse affiliates, and some beta testers.

In my experience, even if I change payouts, sales that were made prior to the change continue to reflect the payout options that were current at the time of sale.

So program operators cannot fuck affiliate by putting rebills at 0 after the sale is made on a revshare program. (at least not without getting into the code and fucking with it)

IllTestYourGirls 12-04-2010 04:18 PM

Mofoscash has that happen when a PPS rebills.


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