Promoting Rape

[RogerV]

hoop check out my new thread and help me out.
about tgp's

I not saying there a bad thing they just need to be censored some
and I'm still sure they would get the same amount of traffic.
just profit more from it.

[Jak]

Hamburger.


Jak

[tree]

DO NOT PAY ANY ATTENTION TO HOOPER!
he is another gfy multiple personality....my guess?

none other thatn captain morality himself.... GOTHWEB!

[Jak]

http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...997#post835997


Jak

[SpaceAce]

Sorry, but I don't get it. Fake is fake. I seriously doubt a site depicting real rapes for profit would last very long. Hit Google and do a search for porn and violence. You'll find plenty of studies linking x-rated material of any kind to everything from child molestation to domestic violence. You're worried about your daughter, but you think only rape porn puts her at danger? There's plenty out there who would say any porn puts her at risk. Why choose to believe any one over any other?

"But regular porn doesn't show women forced to have sex."

So? People twisted enough to commit rape aren't waiting for permission from a website.

It's like some of the other posters said, there's already abuse, embezzling, rape and murder in our music, movies and books. Sorry, but this <B>is</B> within the scope of the conversation. You can't claim that these other forms of fantasy outlet are immaterial just because they weaken your position.

Rape is a crime. Rapists deserve punishment. Still, fake fantasy rape is fake fantasy rape. No one was actually raped, so what's the problem?
I don't promote it because it makes me uncomfortable. I don't see the appeal in rape material and I don't like the idea of women (or men) being forced into sex but, again, it is not real. Just because I find something personally distasteful doesn't mean I have the right to enforce that view on others.

SpaceAce

[greentea]

Interesting thread..

im just curious hooper while you are here, please tell me the legality's of your site?


http://www.badstars.com

[ControlThy]

Stay with the subject for god sake.

Anyone promoting rape is not "cool" in my book and I for one will not send my traffic to his/her program.

Now for the fellow talking about games:

Yes games show alot of violence - do they promote that particular aspect of their product?

[Hooper]

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You either do or you don't support shutting down sites that promote fantasies of illegal activities.
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and i either do or dont promote posting???

are you stoned?

this discusssion has *NOTHING* to do with *fantasy sites*.. this entire thread has to do with a link that shows nothing but a girl in pain with a text link that says "Fisting / Rape"

that's it.. there aint no more.. there is no fantasy involved unless it is YOUR fantasy you freak... the link clearly indicates to the surfer that they will find fisting and/or rape at the next place they arrive after clicking the link.

If i create a site that contains "how to scam the IRS".... but at some point state that we dont condone tax scams.. it just dont matter.. people like you have such a screwy view of the law.

Fantasy is a different thread... if you want to discuss fantasy, start that thread... i'm not trying to win any free shit.

[SpaceAce]

So, you would be OK with a site filled to the brim with rape as long as it didn't try and promote it?

Also, yes. I don't know who brought up games, but OF COURSE they promote that aspect! How many commercials show Duke Nukem quietly walking through the suburbs picking flowers?

SpaceAce

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by ControlThy
Now for the fellow talking about games:

Yes games show alot of violence - do they promote that particular aspect of their product?

Are you fucking joking? Every violent game OUT there promotes their violent aspects. Why the fuck do you think anyone buys them?

[Hooper]

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im just curious hooper while you are here, please tell me the legality's of your site?
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that is not my site. we only manage the affilate program for the owners of that site.

[greentea]

Ahemmm.. Smell's like shit to me...

Cen says the same thing..

[Hooper]

kinda like what you likely say when you get caught with illegal drugs eh?

[greentea]

Cmon Hoop you need a better one then that

[ControlThy]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Are you fucking joking? Every violent game OUT there promotes their violent aspects. Why the fuck do you think anyone buys them?

It was a QUESTION.
I am NOT familiar with the games industry, sorry.

Could you possibly direct me to an advertisement that shows this?

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by ControlThy
Could you possibly direct me to an advertisement that shows this?

Turn on the television.

[ControlThy]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Turn on the television.

The only game advertising I have seen is the one for "The Sims", not exactly a great example for a violent game.

[Hooper]

not really b.. i mean.. gt.. you were defending your bro for carrying illegal drugs the other day..

so why is it different?

you point out something questionable that a company whom we sell our affiliate software to does... and i get critiqued differently.. why is that fair?

cen? never heard of them. my checks come from net management :-)

[quiet]

Originally posted by Hooper
not really b.. i mean.. gt.. you were defending your bro for carrying illegal drugs the other day..

this shit is too funny.

[greentea]

IF someone wants to carry illegal drugs, its there risk and i dont give a fuck what they do.. Defending?? hahahah thats funny

Oh yea and i love smoking weed, It's no big secret. In fact i get more sleep at night running a STONER site rather then a celeb site.

Thats funny hooper the whois info for conversioncash and badstars is the same.. I would of had a lot more respect for you had you just said yes i own it and i make green from it.

that answer of " we just manage the site" will fool most but not all.

I been around a while myself, i can remember when you could not stop bragging about your new site on netpond, the design etc we know what site im talking about...

There's no need for me to spend all night digging the archives for all this tasty stuff.

Off for some sleep

[RogerV]

Originally posted by greentea
IF someone wants to carry illegal drugs, its there risk and i dont give a fuck what they do.. Defending?? hahahah thats funny

Oh yea and i love smoking weed, It's no big secret. In fact i get more sleep at night running a STONER site rather then a celeb site.

Thats funny hooper the whois info for conversioncash and badstars is the same.. I would of had a lot more respect for you had you just said yes i own it and i make green from it.

that answer of " we just manage the site" will fool most but not all.

I been around a while myself, i can remember when you could not stop bragging about your new site on netpond, the design etc we know what site im talking about...

There's no need for me to spend all night digging the archives for all this tasty stuff.

Off for some sleep

Shit then why don't you send me traffic. LOL

stonerbabes.com

[greentea]

Roger email me at [email protected]

I got plenty of traffic.

Is the content real girls + weed etc?

[greentea]

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Cya,
Hooper

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that is not my site. we only manage the affilate program for the owners of that site.

Sorry im still awake

[eroswebmaster]

Well let's not forget to point out on their teen site they make reference to "Highschool Honeys"

What are YOU promoting with that line?

[RogerV]

Originally posted by greentea
Roger email me at [email protected]

I got plenty of traffic.

Is the content real girls + weed etc?

you've got mail

we all have our own opinions if we didn't we would be a communist country

[Theo]

Originally posted by RogerV


Shit then why don't you send me traffic. LOL

stonerbabes.com

hahahahaha

[RogerV]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel



hahahahaha

Soul-rebel

and why arn't you sending to hiphopwhores or chickenheadwhores. LOL

I'm gonna get some biz off this thread since I'm up this morning

You know me

[Theo]

actually I'm checking them now


who's the guy on the left of Aria
http://www.CountryChicks.com

JR right?

[greentea]

Some of those sponsors are good business partners of ours.. most of them dont know about his business practices and we care about them which is why i bring it to their attention here...

First mistake was to bring it "here". You should of emailed them first rather then publically. To newbies and others it could like a thread saying these companys endorse rape shit etc etc not good.

I think it will do a lot more damage then good.

[chodadog]

Firstly, Hooper. Do all your sites have that many goddamn fucking consoles? Jesus christ. You ever heard of holding back? Once a visitor gets hit with that shit, you can bet your ass he's not gonna click on another banner. Purely 'cause he's scared out of his wits that his computer will crash when he visits another fucked up paysite.

Anyways, to the issue at hand.

Firstly, no, i don't currently promote fantasy rape sites, and i doubt i will be doing so anytime soon. But, the sites are legal, and i don't give a flying fuck who else promotes them.

Hooper, answer me this. What is your opinion about two consenting adults simulating rape in the privacy of their own home? You are aware that this is a huge fantasy for a lot of people. It's not exactly rare either.

What's your opinion on that? Should they be told to stop 'cause you don't like their fantasies?

Last time i checked, the people on fantasy rape sites were actually consenting adults. The word you have to pay close attention to is "fantasy"

Sure, the link might have made no mention of fantasy, but if you click the link, i think you'll find it is indeed a fantasy site. I don't see why the word "fantasy" has to be used. It will probably lower the appeal of the link to someone who is interested in rape fantasy.

Seems a bit shady to you? How about linking to a teen site using the "Young Girls"

That's a fairly common link to a teen site. Should people using that link change it to you "Young Girls (but they're all over 18)"

Of course not. Any reasonable person would assume that Young Girls just meant 18/19 year old girls, just as any reasonable person, and in particular, any person interested in rape fantasy, would assume that "Rape & Fisting" meant fantasy rape.

[Theo]

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[Fletch XXX]

rape is bad, in all its forms.

But you guys love the woman humiliation videos right? One is the outright degradation, the other is...

[shunga]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
But you guys love the woman humiliation videos right? One is the outright degradation, the other is...

You're right on the money there. Why does Bang Bus come to mind..?

[TheFLY]

Rape is simulated all the time on TV and in movies... I recently saw the movie "Fat Girl" in LA -- it's about a fat girl who's a virgin and she wants to be fucked by a man she doesn't care for (she doesn't want any emotional attachment for her first time) -- at the end up the movie some kind of wierd and violent irony kicks in and she gets raped by a truck driver and the suggestion is that she got what she wanted... Or go to Blockbuster and rent "The Lover" -- there's some kind of rape permutation in that movie... There are so many movies and TV shows that play the rape fantasy card to make $$$...

Anyway this subject is best left for the lawyers to fight over.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by RogerV


Shit then why don't you send me traffic. LOL

stonerbabes.com

Is this a dialer on the front door?

http://204.177.92.193/party/affpp/in...tml?pin=503799

No way man.

[cherrylula]

Women do not fantasize about being raped.

Anyone with that opinion should realise it is an oxymoron because the word rape is defined as "The crime of *forcing* another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse."

Bondage and aggressive sex do not qualify as rape. Promoting rape as entertainment in a pay site leads surfers to believe there are really acts like this going on and people shooting pictures of it even if it is fake. Not cool.

Honestly if a surfer thinks BANG BUS is real don't you think that rape shit would be perceived the same?

There is so much money to be made in this industry why does anyone feel the need to push rape??? Anyone? Maybe they like it.

[Hooper]

greentea, it's amazingly transparent who you are.

not sure who sent you here to fight their battles for them.. but it's pretty pathetic.

i'm sure you can dig up all sorts of fun posts i've made, regardless it doesnt change the fact that

1) Rape is illegal, immoral and wrong in all of its forms
2) You are apparently quite "Pro-Rape"

I"m glad you dont send conversioncash your celeb rape traffic.

Go back to your master you lapdog.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by Torimoto


You either do or you don't support shutting down sites that promote fantasies of illegal activities.

Do you think that Gary's site, where girls beat each other, should be shut down?

Take a stand or don't bother.

Rockstar games has some of the most popular games on the market right now and they promote extreme violence and bad morals.

Do you approve or not?

Don't pretend this has nothing to do with this thread.

You came here wanting to be the moral policeman who can decide which fantasies are right and which ones are wrong. You started this, now stand up for what is right, even if you have to piss off big people like Gary and the Bum Fights guys. They are promoting violence, right?

If you really believe that people shouldn't be allowed to fantasize about illegal activities, then say so. Otherwise, why did you post this thread in the first place?

Hate to say it but... Someone has made some pretty good points here...

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by ControlThy
Yes games show alot of violence - do they promote that particular aspect of their product?

Ever see the commercials for Grand Theft Auto 3? Ever read an old advertisement for Doom, or one of the other mass slaughter games?

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by cherrylula
Women do not fantasize about being raped.

You are wrong about that. I can tell you for a fact, without any question, that many women have had this fantasy and many of them share it with others online in the form of chat, stories, and email. This is not my opinion, this is a fact. That does not mean, in any way, that they want to be raped, it just means that they have such fantasies.

BDSM and Bondage are not rape, don't confuse the two. There are people into BDSM and bondage and even pain, and then there are people into rape fantasies. If you ever confuse the two while talking to someone in the sub/Dom lifestyle, get ready to get an earful.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Hooper
greentea, it's amazingly transparent who you are.

not sure who sent you here to fight their battles for them.. but it's pretty pathetic.

i'm sure you can dig up all sorts of fun posts i've made, regardless it doesnt change the fact that

1) Rape is illegal, immoral and wrong in all of its forms
2) You are apparently quite "Pro-Rape"

I"m glad you dont send conversioncash your celeb rape traffic.

Go back to your master you lapdog.

You seem to be dancing around posts and points that others are making that place YOU and YOUR company in a shitty light. If you're going to ride the moral horse, ride it all the way home.

And since you've mentioned your daughter several times in this thread, I suggest you get out of teen sites. Very similar principle.

And yes, this thread should have taken place solely through email. Next time I find a CP site linking your stuff should I bring it to the board? I bet you would LOVE that, wouldn't you? You didn't come here to help our your "program friends", you came here pointing fingers. Not good.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


You are wrong about that. I can tell you for a fact, without any question, that many women have had this fantasy and many of them share it with others online in the form of chat, stories, and email. This is not my opinion, this is a fact. That does not mean, in any way, that they want to be raped, it just means that they have such fantasies.

BDSM and Bondage are not rape, don't confuse the two. There are people into BDSM and bondage and even pain, and then there are people into rape fantasies. If you ever confuse the two while talking to someone in the sub/Dom lifestyle, get ready to get an earful.

I have to agree with you on this. And if am not mistaken the highest court in the USA did rule on "fantasy" and
trying to regulate them. Regardless of what anyone "thinks" is wrong.. I do not think any kind of rape site
should be on the internet but a "fantasy" is not against the law. Now if you do not want to do business with
these people that's fine... I do believe the issue could have been taken care of better than it has been. Anyone
I do not care who you are if you have been in the Porn business for any time at all should be very careful
before they start throwing stones... It can really come back to haunt you in a big way. .... and on some thing
you feel so strongly about I would set back take some very deep breath and THINK before posting on a public forum.

[Hooper]

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You seem to be dancing around posts and points that others are making that place YOU and YOUR company in a shitty light.
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1) its not my company
2) what shitty light are you talking about? celeb sites? or legal teen sites? i dont see any problems with them.. and i'm willing to say so for the record.

You say i'm dodging questions, but read the title of this thread "Promoting Rape"... so why is it that when i dont feel like getting chatty about celeb sites on a rape thread that you then feel the need to change the subject.

The subject is promoting rape, is it right or wrong. Not promoting fantasy, not promoting celebrities, not whether or not greentea smokes too much dope which is self evident.

So you are the one dodging. You are the one changing the subject.

I believe that promoting rape is both immoral and illegal and i dont do business those who promote it.

Aside from your personal view of me or my "light"... What do you believe Sly_RJ?

A simple "yes i think its ok to promote rape" or "no i dont think its ok" will do.

[OnTime]

Originally posted by Hooper

2) what shitty light are you talking about? celeb sites? or legal teen sites? i dont see any problems with them.. and i'm willing to say so for the record.

So legal teen sites are okay (which most people here will agree play off underage fantasy).

However, legal rape fantasy sites you have judged immoral.

Can you say Hypocrite? I guess the underage fantasy is cool, but the rape fantasy isn't. Morality according to Hooper.

The subject is promoting rape, is it right or wrong. Not promoting fantasy, not promoting celebrities, not whether or not greentea smokes too much dope which is self evident.

The stuff YOU brought to Roger's attention were leading to what looks to be legal rape fantasy sites, nothing illegal. How is that dodging the question?

And REAL classy how you're "helping" out the other programs with this thread. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. I'm sure they appreciate it on a public board. Get Real.

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by Hooper
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I believe that promoting rape is both immoral and illegal and i dont do business those who promote it.

Aside from your personal view of me or my "light"... What do you believe Sly_RJ?

A simple "yes i think its ok to promote rape" or "no i dont think its ok" will do.

once again...promoting rape fantasy is not "illegal."

It may be however "immoral," but doing anything in porn is considered "immoral" by the majority of the public.

If you can't see this man you are much more jaded by the almighty dollar than anyone you disagree with here.

And no it does not boil down to "yes I think it's ok to promote rape" or "no I don't think it's ok."

We live in a world that is not black and white...there are many....many shades of grey...and one of them sadly is rape FANTASY.

If a program or sponsor chooses not to associate with wm's that promote rape fantasy etc that is their choice and I will defend that.

If you as a wm do not wish to promote rape fantasy or work with any sponsors that do, that is your choice and I will defend that.

But if someone chooses to open up or promote a rape fantasy site knowing full well the baggage it comes with, and the potential cost to their business rep as well as their actual income fighting off legal battles, then that is their (at this point) LEGAL choice and I too will defend that.

I will not defend the subject matter, only their right to produce and disseminate it based upon our 1st amendment rights to free speech.

And yes the sites in your arsenal are up for debate.

You came on here questioning or as you stated judging and opening up the floor for other wm's to judge this wm and the sponsors he pushes.

You have been shown to be a hypocrite. You want free speech but only when it protects your income.

I think taking someone's image and photoshopping their face onto another person's body is wrong and immoral...but that's just an opinion.

You would not appreciate if they were doing this to you and plastering pics of you all over the net taking a dick up your ass or down your throat.

The teen site in your portfolio actually has the words 'Highschool Honeys" on it.

Sure there are 18+ girls in highschool but still I would never push anything that promoted girls in "Highschool," because you, me and everyone else on this board knows that encompasses alot.
Highschool girls could be anywhere from 14-19 but did you specify that they were 18 year old highschool honeys?...NO.

The not so subtle implication is underage, but of course for fantasy purposes.

But hey...as long as you have 18+ chicks on your site with documentation and you don't actually come out and say they are underage you're cool in the eyes of the law...you are right legally (maybe) but what about morally?

[greentea]

Originally posted by Hooper
greentea, it's amazingly transparent who you are.

not sure who sent you here to fight their battles for them.. but it's pretty pathetic.

i'm sure you can dig up all sorts of fun posts i've made, regardless it doesnt change the fact that

1) Rape is illegal, immoral and wrong in all of its forms
2) You are apparently quite "Pro-Rape"

I"m glad you dont send conversioncash your celeb rape traffic.

Go back to your master you lapdog.

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Hooper no one.. I have no battles to fight, simply you cant anwser my question because you know im right..

I dont send conversioncash any traffic, I may be transparent but not STUPID..

Mr moral police cant even answer a straight question about his own site. That says enough hooper..

[Kat - Fast]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster



once again...promoting rape fantasy is not "illegal."

It may be however "immoral," but doing anything in porn is considered "immoral" by the majority of the public.

If you can't see this man you are much more jaded by the almighty dollar than anyone you disagree with here.

And no it does not boil down to "yes I think it's ok to promote rape" or "no I don't think it's ok."

We live in a world that is not black and white...there are many....many shades of grey...and one of them sadly is rape FANTASY.

If a program or sponsor chooses not to associate with wm's that promote rape fantasy etc that is their choice and I will defend that.

If you as a wm do not wish to promote rape fantasy or work with any sponsors that do, that is your choice and I will defend that.

But if someone chooses to open up or promote a rape fantasy site knowing full well the baggage it comes with, and the potential cost to their business rep as well as their actual income fighting off legal battles, then that is their (at this point) LEGAL choice and I too will defend that.

I will not defend the subject matter, only their right to produce and disseminate it based upon our 1st amendment rights to free speech.

And yes the sites in your arsenal are up for debate.

You came on here questioning or as you stated judging and opening up the floor for other wm's to judge this wm and the sponsors he pushes.

You have been shown to be a hypocrite. You want free speech but only when it protects your income.

I think taking someone's image and photoshopping their face onto another person's body is wrong and immoral...but that's just an opinion.

You would not appreciate if they were doing this to you and plastering pics of you all over the net taking a dick up your ass or down your throat.

The teen site in your portfolio actually has the words 'Highschool Honeys" on it.

Sure there are 18+ girls in highschool but still I would never push anything that promoted girls in "Highschool," because you, me and everyone else on this board knows that encompasses alot.
Highschool girls could be anywhere from 14-19 but did you specify that they were 18 year old highschool honeys?...NO.

The not so subtle implication is underage, but of course for fantasy purposes.

But hey...as long as you have 18+ chicks on your site with documentation and you don't actually come out and say they are underage you're cool in the eyes of the law...you are right legally (maybe) but what about morally?

Originally posted by Torimoto
This thread is too much.

Gary (or whoever) comes out with a site where women get beaten with bats or something like that and everyone thinks it's great and pats him on the back.

The bum guys pay homeless people with no fucking money to beat each other just for fun. Everyone thinks it wonderful.

Max Hardcore videos show models screaming in what seems like pain all day long. Max is a hero.

But it's wrong to promote totally fake rape fantasies, which many women have?

Some of you people should not be in porn.

You should quit adult and become a priest or a christian coalition member or something else.

It's fantasy.

What about murder in movies? Do you think that should be illegal too?

What about violent video games?

Should we burn all of the books that contain murder or rape too?

Your propaganda is way too much in this thread.

"Rape promoter" - yes, and video game and movie makers are "murder promoters" right?

You sound like Elizabeth fucking Dole.

It's called free speech, look it up.

heyhey - I'm just glad I can copy/paste rather than have to type all that out myself

It is ok to promote anything that's legal fullfuckingstop
What <i>you</i> don't like, <i>you</i> don't promote, I don't like incest stuff and wont go near it. Incest is illegal, yet there are <b>loads</b> of links and sites for it and promoting it - we all know it's fantasy incest but it's fantasy fucking sickness in my (tiny) mind and I find it more disturbing than fantasy rape.

[quiet]

what an interesting thread

[tolik]

hahaha

look who talking


little looser hooper from 'free america' try get attention and win DVD

his try make problem where no problem, cos americans mostly buy memberships to this sites.

and this sites absolutely legal.

2Lens and Eric - i think it bad example for other and this posts of this sick looser dont wanna be counted

or just dont give to him a DVD.

[Joe Sixpack]

Conversion Cash sites DO NOT CONVERT.

I think I'm converting about 10% of free trials to paid memberships.

Instead of bullshitting on here about rape, why don't you do something about improving the members area of Conversion Cash sites so we can all make more money.