Clockwork Orange

[Babel]

Do you people even know why the name is clockwork orange ?

What does it mean to have a society of oranges that are condition so completely that they behave like clockwork.

let me repeat it again to your cortex

A society of ORANGES that behave like CLOCKWORK.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Babel
Do you people even know why the name is clockwork orange ?

What does it mean to have a society of oranges that are condition so completely that they behave like clockwork.

let me repeat it again to your cortex

A society of ORANGES that behave like CLOCKWORK.

now we are talking.

impressive.

[Babel]

Anybody with a IQ higher then room temperature ?

[jayeff]

Originally posted by Shoplifter
I think it still stands as the ultimate examination of the place of youth in modern society, and was prophetic in how it shows how youth would come to dominate society.

Strangely enough since I was only 21 when the film appeared, it didn't occur to me that CO was about youth. Nor have I noticed since the domination of which you speak: only that the world is very practised at allowing youth the illusion they matter. If you want a movie about youth fighting back, McDowell's first movie, "If", might do it better for you.

CO showed a world in which technology had left behind morality. Violence was rampant and a government anxious to clear its prisons (to make room for political prisoners) embarked on a course of brainwashing for violent criminals. Thus the central question of whether dehumanizing an individual is a more morally acceptable solution than killing him.

With great relevance to the present, the film asks what sacrifices we are willing to make in order to live in relative security. It also takes a poke at the public's willingness to praise a government one day and turn on it the next: both without any real reason.

I also believe that many people saw more sex and violence in the film than was really there. That's a testament to how well Kubrick made CO, but it is worth noting that the film was re-rated to "R" some years ago.

[Babel]

When a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Babel
hey, not many replying anymore

we are inferior and must bow to your massive IQ

you know it all, please, the floor is yours. ;)

[imageman]

Originally posted by sarah_webinc
my husband is a big fan of blow-up - essential to understand London at the time

Great film for its time i think it was based on the life of David Bailey a great and controversial British Fashion photographer who now directs, last i knew of him he worked out of RSA ; Ridly Scott and Associates ( Ridly shot Alien and his brother Tony did Top Gun, and the very popular Man on Fire movie in theaters now, plus many more great films)

I found some info for anyone interested in the car PROBE 16

It is a real car called a M-505 Adams Brothers Probe 16 made by Dennis Adams in the late 60s. Only three were produced.

Dennis Adams, together with his brother Peter and Jem Marsh were responsible for the initial design of the classic lines if the Marcos Coupe way back in 1964. Though Dennis stayed with the factory working on various projects, on and off for many years, he also went on to design and produce a number of other cars.

http://www.geocities.com/hasselhoffl...ropdurango.jpg

[quiet]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
we are inferior and must bow to your massive IQ

you know it all, please, the floor is yours. ;)

lol

[maxdaname]

Never watched it, but it looks good!

[amjo]

This movie must be about 30 years old now. I remember when it
first was released.. What a great movie. What is it about?
You cant tell untill youve watched it. And I love Beethoven

[Babel]

Originally posted by jayeff
Strangely enough since I was only 21 when the film appeared, it didn't occur to me that CO was about youth. Nor have I noticed since the domination of which you speak: only that the world is very practised at allowing youth the illusion they matter. If you want a movie about youth fighting back, McDowell's first movie, "If", might do it better for you.

CO showed a world in which technology had left behind morality. Violence was rampant and a government anxious to clear its prisons (to make room for political prisoners) embarked on a course of brainwashing for violent criminals. Thus the central question of whether dehumanizing an individual is a more morally acceptable solution than killing him.

With great relevance to the present, the film asks what sacrifices we are willing to make in order to live in relative security. It also takes a poke at the public's willingness to praise a government one day and turn on it the next: both without any real reason.

I also believe that many people saw more sex and violence in the film than was really there. That's a testament to how well Kubrick made CO, but it is worth noting that the film was re-rated to "R" some years ago.

You deserver a bone, but it's not about killing.

It''s about taking a mans choice not to redeem him but to restrain/control him. Thats how you end up with a society of ORANGES that behave like CLOCKWORK. It does not matter the reason why, the result is the same. When a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man.

[Babel]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
we are inferior and must bow to your massive IQ

you know it all, please, the floor is yours. ;)

Alright, I got carried away a little at the thick ones

[Babel]

My best part is that Roast, It surely look good

[jayeff]

Originally posted by Babel
It''s about taking a mans choice not to redeem him but to restrain/control him. Thats how you end up with a society of ORANGES that behave like CLOCKWORK. It does not matter the reason why, the result is the same. When a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man.

Isn't that what I wrote? "Thus the central question of whether dehumanizing an individual is a more morally acceptable solution than killing him". That, together with my reference to brainwashing.

I thought it was anyway...

[Babel]

Skinner got some success on making retarded kids behave. If you only look at whats best to do with murderers and all, but it's more profound then that. This was "The Fix" Gambling problem, no problem, you speed too much, no problem, wwe will fix you alright ...

[Nyght]

Did you all know that if you slow the movie down to frame by frame during the scene where the couple gets beat down in their home, you can see erotic art images that you can not see at full speed?

[Morgan]

http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/english/...kwork/faq.html

[amjo]

Originally posted by Nyght
Did you all know that if you slow the movie down to frame by frame during the scene where the couple gets beat down in their home, you can see erotic art images that you can not see at full speed?

Well thats something I didn't know.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by amjo
Well thats something I didn't know.

likewise.

[Fletch XXX]

while this may be blatantly obvious, i am only realizing it now as the film comes to an end.

the dad is in the shining, i think.

[webmaster x]

I belive this movie had a great impact to its viewers.

[reynold]

Haven't watch it either