Originally posted by Lane sometimes u can't tell.. it just IS great as a whole
yep, in the first 10 minutes already have rape and beating old people, one of the best horror movies ever. Some don't consider it horror, what the hell else is it? Thats like saying the Shining is a psychological thriller, yeah yeah yeah, tis horror.
Classic film.... at the time it was ground breaking.
-Ben
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horror? wtf are you smoking. It's an action movie for 16-18+ yo.
"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -Hunter S. Thompson
oh btw.... get talkin bout this the other day... and my mum tells
me she was afraid to sleep and paranoid bout doors being locked
for years after seeing it. Seems like it really messed her up for a
while.
-Ben
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Originally posted by mryellow oh btw.... get talkin bout this the other day... and my mum tells
me she was afraid to sleep and paranoid bout doors being locked
for years after seeing it. Seems like it really messed her up for a
while.
-Ben
most women will have this reaction to a film that deals with so many trust breaking motions of deceit, degradation, and rape.
this is a man's movie, it deals with all the concepts that i can think of regarding making you uneasy throughout the experience, while both making you love and hate the charachters involved. At some times even pity.
quiet: they just ran the doorbell, and barged in, great scene its on now. ;)
1) fashion, gotta love the tophat, cane, boots & longjohns look...
2) violence
3) that fuggin large phallic ornament in the chick's house that was like a strange rocking horse....who wouldn't want one of those in their living room as a conversational piece?!
oh and
4) the Milk Bar...I want one of those lactating statues, that's d0pe
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I think it still stands as the ultimate examination of the place of youth in modern society, and was prophetic in how it shows how youth would come to dominate society.
As well there is an interesting subtheme on the way government can manipulate law and opposition. I think the Bush regime has read this book, and also the chapters in Orwell's 1984 about the need for perpetual conflict to legitimize government.
Originally posted by Shoplifter I think it still stands as the ultimate examination of the place of youth in modern society, and was prophetic in how it shows how youth would come to dominate society.
As well there is an interesting subtheme on the way government can manipulate law and opposition. I think the Bush regime has read this book, and also the chapters in Orwell's 1984 about the need for perpetual conflict to legitmize government.
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
real or not this quote is good too
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate, and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Ceasar."
Originally posted by KRL I saw that movie when I was young and it gave me nightmares. Especially this character.
right but the fascinating part about this story is half of the story you are gainging sympathy for him because he is stripped from his rank and leadership nd reduced to mental patient and paycho experiment. he himself suffers humiliation and degradation at the very system he hated.
Fletchxxx just made a great point about the viewer gaining sympathy for him this started the trend of Anti Hero movies where the "Bad Guy" Is like the Hero, Ala Falling Down, Escape From NY, etc etc
"There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is Pete, Georgie, and Dim, and we sat in the Korova Milkbar trying to make up our rassoodocks what to do with the evening. The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence."
Originally posted by Fletch XXX right but the fascinating part about this story is half of the story you are gainging sympathy for him because he is stripped from his rank and leadership nd reduced to mental patient and paycho experiment. he himself suffers humiliation and degradation at the very system he hated.
the killer becomes victim.
yup, that's what makes the movie so damn powerful
The rapist/murderer/theif becomes a shadow of a man due to forced exposure to sexually violent imagery and of course a little bit of Ludwig Von on the soundtrack. You start to feel sorry for him because he's not really reformed, rather just has all his power to respond taken away from him.
Originally posted by Fletch XXX right but the fascinating part about this story is half of the story you are gainging sympathy for him because he is stripped from his rank and leadership nd reduced to mental patient and paycho experiment. he himself suffers humiliation and degradation at the very system he hated.
the killer becomes victim.
I was 14 when I saw it and I remember thinking why did my parents let me go to this movie.
I haven't seen that in years! I saw it when I was very little....
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Originally posted by Fletch XXX what do you mean "see past?"
no doubt....some of us may prefer to stare 'directly at'
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When i first saw this film many years ago in London the thing that i remembered most was the car I think it was called a PROBE MK 5 made by the Marcus Brothers who made a range of Cars in London with Plywood chassis i seem to remember one was called a Marcus 1600 cool cars for their time. You can still see them in the UK , i believe they had plans to make more a few years back but don't know what happened.
Clockwork Orange and another film called Blow-Up with David Hemming's, used to be popular in the late sixty's early seventies London scene.
Originally posted by imageman
Clockwork Orange and another film called Blow-Up with David Hemming's, used to be popular in the late sixty's early seventies London scene.
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my husband is a big fan of blow-up - essential to understand London at the time
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