May 2020 Google Core Algorithm Update

[BigFurry]

Hello! Does anyone use Clodflare?
After the server load surge, traffic on my site dropped. The hosting provider recommends using services like Clodflare. Is this related to the Google Core Algorithm Update? This is the first time I have encountered such a situation.

If your rankings went down at the same time when the algorithm change happened, 99% sure it's not related to Cloudflare.

Using Cloudflare shouldn't be an issue. I have a site using Cloudflare which increased in traffic with this update.

Google doesn't care what domains or hosting providers you use. Just make sure there are no technical issues, check your Google Search Console.

[Advolk]

With the details you provided it's impossible to tell, is it a new site?
The surge could be Google's crawlers, which explains the traffic drop.
Cloudflare is not related, but you should use it for sure, I use it for all my domains.

Feel free to email me or send your Skype, I'll try to help

Site has been running since 2012.

[xxify]

I suggest checking https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/crawl-stats to see if there's any changes

[celandina]

[AzteK]

This update is HUGE.

[askjoe]

This update is shit.
I search for live sexcam and get live webcam stations from all over the world.
All 10 positions not related to sexcam.

Lost 40% of traffic on nearly all sites.Only 2 shitty sites ranks well.
My sites has tons more quality backlinks , user bookmark my sites and revisits daily.
Somehow google decided to rank shitty websites before mine.
I´m sure G don´t know what they are doing there.

[AzteK]

This update is shit.
I search for live sexcam and get live webcam stations from all over the world.
All 10 positions not related to sexcam.

Lost 40% of traffic on nearly all sites.Only 2 shitty sites ranks well.
My sites has tons more quality backlinks , user bookmark my sites and revisits daily.
Somehow google decided to rank shitty websites before mine.
I´m sure G don´t know what they are doing there.

That's what I was mentioning early in this thread. If you differentiate your spacing between keywords or brands you get non-adult results mixed in. I can't believe how bad this update has been.

[CaptainHowdy]

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[The Porn Nerd]

That's what I was mentioning early in this thread. If you differentiate your spacing between keywords or brands you get non-adult results mixed in. I can't believe how bad this update has been.

Shows the limitations of working from home eh?

No fucking oversight.

[AzteK]

Shows the limitations of working from home eh?

No fucking oversight.

Yes, indeed. It certainly feels like that. It's strange because, with the flux going on, it still looks like the updates are in progress. As disheartening updates like these are we still push forward and make our properties better. We are grateful for the member retention the sites in our industry offer to get us through the tougher times. Regardless of this update, my 5-year outlook doesn't change. It certainly has set us back months in terms of traffic volume at the moment. I want to believe this will be fixed or we'll adapt.

[wankawonk]

This update is shit.
I search for live sexcam and get live webcam stations from all over the world.
All 10 positions not related to sexcam.

Lost 40% of traffic on nearly all sites.Only 2 shitty sites ranks well.
My sites has tons more quality backlinks , user bookmark my sites and revisits daily.
Somehow google decided to rank shitty websites before mine.
I´m sure G don´t know what they are doing there.

you lost a ton of traffic so "this update is shit" and "G don't know what they're doing"

my traffic is way up so "this update is great" and "G finally got their shit together"

porn queries returning mainstream results has been going on for years. Google explicitly wants to make sure mainstream queries never return porn results, and they're willing to let porn queries return mainstream results in order to achieve that. It's a business decision. It doesn't mean they don't have their shit together.

The "shitty" sites ranking above yours could be better than yours for any number of reasons. You're biased, everyone thinks their own site is the best. It's probably not.

[The Porn Nerd]

you lost a ton of traffic so "this update is shit" and "G don't know what they're doing"

my traffic is way up so "this update is great" and "G finally got their shit together"

porn queries returning mainstream results has been going on for years. Google explicitly wants to make sure mainstream queries never return porn results, and they're willing to let porn queries return mainstream results in order to achieve that. It's a business decision. It doesn't mean they don't have their shit together.

The "shitty" sites ranking above yours could be better than yours for any number of reasons. You're biased, everyone thinks their own site is the best. It's probably not.

Yes true, and I hope webmasters are doing these test searches using VPNs. Otherwise G is just serving you what looks best to YOU, not "the world".

Still, this one is a massive shakeup but I am hopeful that within a week or two things will normalize again.

[Klen]

you lost a ton of traffic so "this update is shit" and "G don't know what they're doing"

my traffic is way up so "this update is great" and "G finally got their shit together"

porn queries returning mainstream results has been going on for years. Google explicitly wants to make sure mainstream queries never return porn results, and they're willing to let porn queries return mainstream results in order to achieve that. It's a business decision. It doesn't mean they don't have their shit together.

The "shitty" sites ranking above yours could be better than yours for any number of reasons. You're biased, everyone thinks their own site is the best. It's probably not.

And i am media buyer, so whoever win or lose, i always win

[trevesty]

you lost a ton of traffic so "this update is shit" and "G don't know what they're doing"

my traffic is way up so "this update is great" and "G finally got their shit together"

porn queries returning mainstream results has been going on for years. Google explicitly wants to make sure mainstream queries never return porn results, and they're willing to let porn queries return mainstream results in order to achieve that. It's a business decision. It doesn't mean they don't have their shit together.

The "shitty" sites ranking above yours could be better than yours for any number of reasons. You're biased, everyone thinks their own site is the best. It's probably not.

You're largely right, but there's quite a few very obvious porn queries that were returning completely garbage results. Even Pornhub and xVideos were on page 2 or 3 for porn star name searches I was testing Sunday. However, it looks today those same queries are going back to "normal" (Kendra Lust was one that I searched, and PH was #17 Sunday from many devices and geo-locations).

[3xmedia]

"erotic videos" - mainstream
"eroticvideos" - adult

makes sence...

[hony]

This update is shit.
I search for live sexcam and get live webcam stations from all over the world.
All 10 positions not related to sexcam.

Lost 40% of traffic on nearly all sites.Only 2 shitty sites ranks well.
My sites has tons more quality backlinks , user bookmark my sites and revisits daily.
Somehow google decided to rank shitty websites before mine.
I´m sure G don´t know what they are doing there.

Who searches for "live sexcam" anyway?

Anyway when I search for it now the interesting thing to me is what words in the snippets are bolded.

The best live streaming webcam around the world. Host one Whatsupcams and prome your view. Webcam Pyramids, Webcam Venice, Webcam Rome, webcam

Seems google has decided that "sexcam" is a synonym for "webcam".

I guess they are right too!

[jamezon]

someone got ideas what they did focus on during this update ?

[Klen]

Interesting, just noticed how porn.com is back on top 10 for keyword porn. Last time i checked they were nowhere to be found on it. So it seems now is better to run scrapper tube then regular tube lol

[wankawonk]

Interesting, just noticed how porn.com is back on top 10 for keyword porn. Last time i checked they were nowhere to be found on it. So it seems now is better to run scrapper tube then regular tube lol

yeah and you'll notice that some of the sites from the iwank network (which had previously been de-indexed) are back and ranking highly

i don't think its specifically that CJ/aggregator tubes got a boost (SERPs have always been mostly big tubes + aggregators), but that older CJ/aggregator tubes (like mine, or iwank.tv) that had previously received a penalty, have had this penalty lifted and are now ranking. 2 weeks ago, the CJ/aggregator tubes that were ranking, were mostly new (ie, new enough that they haven't received a penalty for the shady tactics that basically all CJ/aggregator tubes use)

Personally I think the takeaway here is that google has relaxed their focus on spam/backlinks a bit, and moved their focus more to user engagement metrics. I think they were trying so hard to prevent SEO from being effective that it negatively affected their user experience metrics, so they said "fuck it, relax the spam penalties and let the site with the best bounce rate win."

the takeaway here for me isn't "go spam the shit out of all your sites" but rather "if you have a good site with good user engagement metrics spam will hurt less than it used to and it might even help"

[The Porn Nerd]

the takeaway here for me isn't "go spam the shit out of all your sites" but rather "if you have a good site with good user engagement metrics spam will hurt less than it used to and it might even help"

So, in other words, go spam the shit out of all your sites ASAP.

[ZENRA]

I don't recall which SEO blog it was, but one had an article written yesterday about the May update and noted that link lists and aggregator sites got a big boost in rankings. This was in relation to sites within the law industry, but may apply for adult as well.

[askjoe]

That's what I was mentioning early in this thread. If you
differentiate your spacing between keywords or brands you get non-adult results
mixed in. I can't believe how bad this update has been.

Yep.But it´s only the first step of update.In see already some "fixes" as they always do
when they fail big.I remember another big fail 2012.They rolled a lot back to normal in
2-3 weeks.No one searching for adult will stay on a site that has 0,000 adult
content.Doesn´t make sense....

porn queries returning mainstream results has been going on for years. Google explicitly
wants to make sure mainstream queries never return porn results, and they're willing to
let porn queries return mainstream results in order to achieve that. It's a business
decision.

Stupid words.
Have seen since 2004 same story..They are fixing their own update for years when they
mess up.But they mess up this time big.

"erotic videos" - mainstream
"eroticvideos" - adult

makes sence...

Wait 2 weeks...

Who searches for "live sexcam" anyway?
Seems google has decided that "sexcam" is a synonym for "webcam".

I guess they are right too!

This is one of many keywords.Just example from eu countries.
I got also mainstream keywords with 0,0 adult words in content or title or anywhere else, but ranking under niche Anal !

Personally I think the takeaway here is that google has relaxed their focus on
spam/backlinks a bit, and moved their focus more to user engagement metrics.

It´s probably because of the nofollow crawling they put online on march and has to be
included in this update.
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/...update/349994/

3 years my projects were running and skyrocketing on all metrics.
Since this pandemic even more. Comparing analytics from my shitty sites ranking now
good, metric has 0,000 todo with this update.Metrics has always been important.



Serps are still moving up and down now.Things will be different in 1 or 2 weeks .

[PornMySex]

Google traffic is stagnating for now, I also think the google update isn't over.

[hypnosissy]

All websites are losing traffic now.

Slowly day by day.

[AzteK]

This update is over now.

[The Porn Nerd]

This update is over now.

Let's hope not!
I don't want this drop in traffic to be permanent.

[wixar]

It's over, unfortunately : https://twitter.com/rustybrick/statu...419471876?s=09

[askjoe]

It's over, unfortunately : https://twitter.com/rustybrick/statu...419471876?s=09

I doubt that.There are still big moves on positions since days.

[wixar]

For me at least, it stopped, as said by the tweet. But of course, each day has his own new ranking falls ^^

[247mg]

Let's hope not!
I don't want this drop in traffic to be permanent.

Google confirm in their official Twitter that May 4 roll out is complete now, leaving me, you and hundreds of other hard working webmaster crying and making spammers and aggregators happy

[Dreamteam]

Google confirm in their official Twitter that May 4 roll out is complete now, leaving me, you and hundreds of other hard working webmaster crying and making spammers and aggregators happy

So what you're actually saying is that anyone who gets extra G traffic with this core update is lazy or just a cheater.

If you think that webmasters from agregator sites are not working on their seo, you really don't know what you're saying. A tube site doesn't make its content either. Google itself doesn't make it's content either ... (while they have +120.000 full time employees)

The google traffic you had before is NOT YOUR TRAFFIC. It may feel like that because you got it for years, but it's not YOUR traffic.

Tip: Just keep working on your SEO. Just creating new content is not good enough.

[The Porn Nerd]

So what you're actually saying is that anyone who gets extra G traffic with this core update is lazy or just a cheater.

If you think that webmasters from agregator sites are not working on their seo, you really don't know what you're saying. A tube site doesn't make its content either. Google itself doesn't make it's content either ... (while they have +120.000 full time employees)

The google traffic you had before is NOT YOUR TRAFFIC. It may feel like that because you got it for years, but it's not YOUR traffic.

Tip: Just keep working on your SEO. Just creating new content is not good enough.

Yes well then it's not YOUR traffic either bro.

This update rewards the very people Google supposedly does NOT want rewarded. Make your sites relevant, good for surfers, good content, updates....nah! Just spam the right long tail keywords via Fivrrr hajis and BAM you too can be a porn king!

[Dreamteam]

Yes well then it's not YOUR traffic either bro.

You are 100% right.

It is not mine either and it will always be fighting for a piece of the pie.

I have been doing porn online since 1998 and in all those years I have never known that everyone is happy after a google update.

There are always winners and losers.

BTW ... <<Make your sites relevant, good for surfers, good content, updates>> ... Well thats "all" I did (I never spam anything). And I must say I have good results with this update.

[mightyjoe]

So be it. May 2020 Google update is the new normal.

[mopek1]

I lost 40% of my "G" traffic like everyone else.

I remember I think it was March 2018 when Google had an update that resulted in adult sites showing up in the results for adult-related keywords. It was great and us webmasters were out of a multi year rut as "G' wasn't giving us much for a long, long time (many years).

Now they've reverted?

I know it's bad for us in adult and so it's easy for me to say the update is shit, but it doesn't make sense that when people search for terms that are adult-related like sex cams, milfs, public nudity, porn etc, that they give mainstream results. Sure some people are doing research or looking for info on those terms but in all seriousness most of the time they are looking for porn, and that's obvious. So, it's shit for the surfer too.

[mightyjoe]

I lost 40% of my "G" traffic like everyone else.

I remember I think it was March 2018 when Google had an update that resulted in adult sites showing up in the results for adult-related keywords. It was great and us webmasters were out of a multi year rut as "G' wasn't giving us much for a long, long time (many years).

Now they've reverted?

I think that is March 12, 2019

[The Porn Nerd]

I lost 40% of my "G" traffic like everyone else.

I remember I think it was March 2018 when Google had an update that resulted in adult sites showing up in the results for adult-related keywords. It was great and us webmasters were out of a multi year rut as "G' wasn't giving us much for a long, long time (many years).

Now they've reverted?

I know it's bad for us in adult and so it's easy for me to say the update is shit, but it doesn't make sense that when people search for terms that are adult-related like sex cams, milfs, public nudity, porn etc, that they give mainstream results. Sure some people are doing research or looking for info on those terms but in all seriousness most of the time they are looking for porn, and that's obvious. So, it's shit for the surfer too.

There have been clusterfucks and rollbacks with Google before so let's hope this is the case now. G staff being quarantined probably also has a negative synergy effect. What you mention is, probably a "bug". So let's see if Google fixes it or not thereby setting things right again.

[PornMySex]

There have been clusterfucks and rollbacks with Google before so let's hope this is the case now. G staff being quarantined probably also has a negative synergy effect. What you mention is, probably a "bug". So let's see if Google fixes it or not thereby setting things right again.

It's simple, older inactive sites ranks up and newer active sites rank down. Google revenue went down because of coronavirus so they rank down newer and active sites so active webmasters use adwords more and make google shareholders happy.

[mopek1]

I think that is March 12, 2019

Perhaps there was another one then in 2019 too, but I wrote it down as March 2018 because I remember a thread like this one on GFY where everyone posted and talked about the traffic they had gained.

[mopek1]

There have been clusterfucks and rollbacks with Google before so let's hope this is the case now. G staff being quarantined probably also has a negative synergy effect. What you mention is, probably a "bug". So let's see if Google fixes it or not thereby setting things right again.

Hopefully. I googled a few adult terms and found some lame galleries in some instances outranking established sites including tubes. There's no way those sites are what surfers are looking for. And about G staff being quarantined, I thought of that too, about how effective they really are that way.

Let's cross our fingers.

[The Porn Nerd]

It's simple, older inactive sites ranks up and newer active sites rank down. Google revenue went down because of coronavirus so they rank down newer and active sites so active webmasters use adwords more and make google shareholders happy.

Perhaps (and I don't doubt it honestly) but that would mean some of my older sites, online since 2008 or so, would be ranking. But they're not.

Traffic seems to just be down, across the board, a percentage of every site's traffic. In previous G updates some sites went up, others down, some stayed the same, it was all over the place. This one just seems down.

PS: It's also Memorial Day Weekend in the US so most people will be going out somewhere after going crazy being locked up for two months. Let's see how June goes.

[247mg]

Perhaps (and I don't doubt it honestly) but that would mean some of my older sites, online since 2008 or so, would be ranking. But they're not.

Traffic seems to just be down, across the board, a percentage of every site's traffic. In previous G updates some sites went up, others down, some stayed the same, it was all over the place. This one just seems down.

PS: It's also Memorial Day Weekend in the US so most people will be going out somewhere after going crazy being locked up for two months. Let's see how June goes.

In last 24-48 hours we have lost another good chunk of traffic... searching for sex term and amazon links comes up including some other book publishers and news articles....

[AzteK]

In last 24-48 hours we have lost another good chunk of traffic... searching for sex term and amazon links comes up including some other book publishers and news articles....

That's exactly what I'm seeing as well. Once exclusively sex terms are now being flooded with mainstream content. It is absolutely fucked.

[askjoe]

That's exactly what I'm seeing as well. Once exclusively sex terms are now being flooded with mainstream content. It is absolutely fucked.

I see it too.Mainstream sites ranking for something like deepthroat
(Content?...no,nothing,nada about deepthroat in the content) , but ranks.

I got rankings back nearly 90%.

Here the real winner



Not to mention all other products from google..

Don´t be evil

[mopek1]

I see it too.Mainstream sites ranking for something like deepthroat
(Content?...no,nothing,nada about deepthroat in the content) , but ranks.

I got rankings back nearly 90%.

Here the real winner



Not to mention all other products from google..

Don´t be evil

What date did it start to come back?

[askjoe]

What date did it start to come back?

Around 23 / 24 may

[mopek1]

Around 23 / 24 may

Thanks. just checked and mine hadn't yet. Hopefully soon.

[imob-nl]

I run about 120 adult websites. The ones with many pops, ads and spam went incredible high and got up to 3times more traffic. The clean white hat SEO sites lost massive.

[ZENRA]

There was a big update yesterday with rumors saying it's a partial rollback of May's core update.

Either way, the winners of that core update from last month were free sites. I was checking SimilarWeb after May stats went online and regardless of niche and size, it seems like most paysites lost lots of SEO traffic (not counting brand name searches).

[CaptainHowdy]

Hundred up-your-ass-dates ? ?