Plugrush

[AdultKing]

If there was any doubt that Plugrush has become a hotbed for piracy publishers then sites like this really do extinguish this doubt.

This is what happens when you harbour support on sites like WJunction.

http://orgazmixxx.com

[DutchTrafficService]

You are just going to posts topics about any site related to any piracy? See you in 2079 then...gl.

You can find this for any ad network btw, fyi, hell, if you look hard enough you'll even find piracy sites with adsense on them from some suckers trying to make 2 bucks that will never be paid out.

What is your point here? What are you trying to prove?

[AdultKing]

What is your point here? What are you trying to prove?

JuicyAds, Google and other responsible ad networks do not harbour support on piracy webmaster forums.

They also respond and deal with violations.

Plugrush on the other had have promoted their service on forums which are dedicated to supporting piracy webmasters. I haven't seen Google Adsense being promoted to people who run piracy websites



http://www.wjunction.com/111-affilia...not-using.html

Even when Plugrush do respond and claim to have killed a pirates account, the ads remain indefinitely, which is completely unacceptable.

[DutchTrafficService]

dedicated to supporting piracy webmasters

How is wjunction a board "dedicated" to piracy webmasters? Doesn't look like it at all to me..
And why can plugrush not post there? Does it mean every member of wjunction is a criminal? Looks to me like some innocent promoting going on.

[brassmonkey]

nevermind.......

[Best-In-BC]

Plugrush has been good to me

[Fat Panda]

adult ad networks that willfully conspire with tube sites to monetize illegal content are despicable / vile parasites

these motherfuckers need to be castrated and charged under RICO

but 99% of gfy members dont care and suck their cock

[Klen]

adult ad networks that willfully conspire with tube sites to monetize illegal content are despicable / vile parasites

these motherfuckers need to be castrated and charged under RICO

but 99% of gfy members dont care and suck their cock

Well that how things works now,you need to blew a bro to get traffic.

[AdultKing]

On the 26th of May 2013 we emailed Plugrush about infringement on a site called pornstash.xxx

To whom it may concern,

Please investigate this site, pornstash.xxx, which is advertising for uploaders of copyright infringing content on WJunction.com

http://www.wjunction.com/111-affilia...e-sharing.html

In their pitch they say "Legal. You don’t have to worry about DMCA complaints or legal problems. Simply post. We will deal with the legal issues."

We would appreciate a reply with the result of your investigation.

We had no response.

Now PornStash.xxx has become xFappy.com, full of Plugrush & Exoclick ads.



We all know Exoclick is knowingly involved in supporting piracy, however is it time to decide that Plugrush is equally complicit ?

Here's Plugrush all over a piracy blog with links to content stored on file lockers:



So what's the story ? Does Plugrush rely on pirate traffic ? Or is Plugrush going to begin to take this issue seriously ?

[The Hun]

We banned plugrush... many people use then on galleries, usually their content is blind (not for everything on there), what was fucked up was that we test a lot of thumbs and got virus warnings flying everywhere on what was linked in there...

I'm sure they'll make people money... I'm also sure they'll scare your visitors away., I might be one of the few still on the "long-term-income-wagon", but that has served us well so far... Surfers aren't dumb... well... not all of them anyway...

[AdultKing]

We banned plugrush... many people use then on galleries, usually their content is blind (not for everything on there), what was fucked up was that we test a lot of thumbs and got virus warnings flying everywhere on what was linked in there..

We have found a lot of malware being served on the Plugrush network but that is nothing compared to the massive scale of the use of Plugrush on pirate websites.

Here's another example.



Plugrush is actively supporting the file locker eco system by not putting in place adequate risk management measures to prevent misuse of it's network.

Furthermore they do not respond to abuse reports - worse still sites that they have said would be dealt with are still displaying Plugrush ads.

It's time for Plugrush to clean up their act and implement a system by which abuse can be reported and dealt with properly.

[VforVendetta]

This is why Plugrush traffic don't convert

[madeofmoney]

Exoclick

and Eroadvertising here:

http://pastebin.com/bJQuBxfk

[AdultKing]

This is why Plugrush traffic don't convert

Well, who is going to buy a porn site membership advertised through Plugrush when there are sites like this with Plugrush all over them ?

I do see Viagra & Cialis ads on Plugrush at the moment. This isn't legal according to both Norwegian and US Law. (Plugrush uses a .com so also falls under US Jurisdiction)

[brassmonkey]

We have found a lot of malware being served on the Plugrush network but that is nothing compared to the massive scale of the use of Plugrush on pirate websites.

Here's another example.



Plugrush is actively supporting the file locker eco system by not putting in place adequate risk management measures to prevent misuse of it's network.

Furthermore they do not respond to abuse reports - worse still sites that they have said would be dealt with are still displaying Plugrush ads.

It's time for Plugrush to clean up their act and implement a system by which abuse can be reported and dealt with properly.

the owner of the content hands out the request not you all you can do is post links to it.

[AdultKing]

the owner of the content hands out the request not you all you can do is post links to it.

We have a number of representation agreements with producers and content owners, so we can report infringements relating to their content

[brassmonkey]

We have a number of representation agreements with producers and content owners, so we can report infringements relating to their content

you know what to do. why are you posting links to the sites? giving the surfers one last go around??

[AdultKing]

you know what to do. why are you posting links to the sites? giving the surfers one last go around??

I'm posting representative samples of what's out there.

This is in an effort to get Plugrush to wake up and do something and so the adult industry here can see how bad the problem is.

There are many more places for surfers to find links to these sites than here on GFY.

If Plugrush wasn't so entwined in piracy traffic there'd be no need for this thread

[Paully]

I tried a campaign with plugrush. What alarmed me was not only traffic from warez sites but nudist sites as well.

While you have the option to go in and block the referrers it was riddled with sites doing redundant pops and even a few known malware bastards along with family nudist sites.

No doubt Plugrush is turning a blind eye but I myself am after Exoclick. I will update you when I make some headway.

These guys are really not gonna like me since they didn't heed my warning about finehub. Just following their money.

Paully

[AdultKing]

No doubt Plugrush is turning a blind eye but I myself am after Exoclick. I will update you when I make some headway.

Exoclick is something we are working on currently.

Contact me for more info off the boards https://copycontrol.org/contact-us/

[spiederman]

whew, just made it in time



anyways to respond ontopic:

This is why Plugrush traffic don't convert

soooo much this, i've tried a shitload of campaigns trough plugrush, and the bigges suppliers of clicks were from sites filled with piracy, and guess what pirates arent interested in..paying for porn

[brassmonkey]

do you have a printout badge?

[Paully]

Exoclick is something we are working on currently.

Contact me for more info off the boards https://copycontrol.org/contact-us/

You got it AK. I will get a hold of you within the next day or so.


Paully

[madeofmoney]

do you have a printout badge?

Sure do...it's BLACK

[mamaliga]

If there was any doubt that Plugrush has become a hotbed for piracy publishers then sites like this really do extinguish this doubt.

This is what happens when you harbour support on sites like WJunction.

http://orgazmixxx.com

Thats not the only problem from Plugrush. Put plugrush on page two days ago and got at least 20 complaints from mobile device owners which got infected because of the mobile ads with auto-download/auto-installers full with trojans. This crap http://app.datapremium.net is one of the site along with many others.
Will see how is working now after i`ve been forced to deactivate mobile ads because of this shit.

[EriktheRabbit]

If there was any doubt that Plugrush has become a hotbed for piracy publishers then sites like this really do extinguish this doubt.

This is what happens when you harbour support on sites like WJunction.

http://orgazmixxx.com

I always thought they was just a criminal network from the start. They only serve the best people

[Klen]

Well,this thread gives me idea how to get more funds to AK campaign- he could issue "certificate" which will be for site which is piracy free,meaning dont have any connection with piracy and charge some amount of money for that certificate.Could be for traffic broker,paysite,sponsor,whatever you imagine,and it will be useful for users who care does certain entity is related to piracy or not so as result entity with certificate would get more users.

[Fat Panda]

crickets from plugrush... fucking maggots

[AdultKing]

crickets from plugrush...

It could be they just haven't seen this thread yet.

They have put up some feeble defence before when I have started threads about their piracy affiliations. They've said they would respond to abuse@ emails. But they haven't.

Let's give them a day or two for the ramifications of keeping up this behaviour to sink in.

Otherwise I guess they can move to Bitcoin as a way to transact with advertisers.

[garce]

Why do you care about piracy when Plugrush pays out less than one cent per click? Just shows you how desperate the fail thieves are. Take a look at the sites that JuicyLinks and ImLive - or 100 other dying companies - support.

This business is dead, corrupt and desperate beyond belief.

[Plugrush]

If there was any doubt that Plugrush has become a hotbed for piracy publishers then sites like this really do extinguish this doubt.

This is what happens when you harbour support on sites like WJunction.

http://orgazmixxx.com

Didn't get one e-mail from you. How about you put your email here and I will e-mail you directly and we can talk, perhaps over the phone. Thanks.

[whOaKemosabe]

Didn't get one e-mail from you. How about you put your email here and I will e-mail you directly and we can talk, perhaps over the phone. Thanks.

[Paully]

Didn't get one e-mail from you. How about you put your email here and I will e-mail you directly and we can talk, perhaps over the phone. Thanks.

See, just look at that.

Do the right thing Plugrush, not just for me, for self preservation if nothing else.

There are a few ad brokers that have their days numbered.

You can always take the high road and get recommendations from your peers like I do with Paul at Eroadvertising now. That's a stand up guy who I would do business without hesitation.

Paully

[AdultKing]

Didn't get one e-mail from you. How about you put your email here and I will e-mail you directly and we can talk, perhaps over the phone. Thanks.

https://copycontrol.org/contact-us

I think given the scale of the problem with infringing sites that a phone meeting would be best. We need to set up a system of reporting that works. We also need to see you shutting down the display of advertising on sites which have been reported to you.

It's not good enough to say the publisher will remove the ads when their accounts are cancelled. The ads should either not display on the publisher site or an anti-piracy ad should display in their place.

Use our contact form and let's set up a meeting to resolve this problem. I look forward to hearing from you.

[Klen]

https://copycontrol.org/contact-us

I think given the scale of the problem with infringing sites that a phone meeting would be best. We need to set up a system of reporting that works. We also need to see you shutting down the display of advertising on sites which have been reported to you.

It's not good enough to say the publisher will remove the ads when their accounts are cancelled. The ads should either not display on the publisher site or an anti-piracy ad should display in their place.

Use our contact form and let's set up a meeting to resolve this problem. I look forward to hearing from you.

Or redirect entire site to tube girl/goatse/whatever you can imagine

[Paully]

Plugrush you want me put you the big trouble too? You gonna talk to Adultking? You gonna do the right thing?

[AdultKing]

Didn't get one e-mail from you. How about you put your email here and I will e-mail you directly and we can talk, perhaps over the phone. Thanks.

Several hours have passed yet no contact from you.

https://copycontrol.org/contact-us

In the meantime, here's some more examples.

1. A blog full of DVD Rips and Site Rips with Plugrush ads everywhere

2. A blog of pirated Thai/English DVDs, stolen passwords to pay sites and mainstream films. Again with Plugrush everywhere.

I can keep posting examples for the next year and still have many more to post.

It's time to clean this up.

[Paully]

Plugrush Plugrush Plugrush how bad do you want to have a business?

[AdultKing]

*crickets*



Plugrush / ExoClick / JuicyAds

The only ad network out of these three that are responsive are JuicyAds.

Plugrush, it's quite simple, https://copycontrol.org/contact-us , fill out the contact form and let's have a meeting.

[Plugrush]

Several hours have passed yet no contact from you.

https://copycontrol.org/contact-us

You do realize we are humans and we have to sleep and do other things besides check this forum all day long correct?

How about instead of posting gigantic long images of things, you actually e-mail us? We have not received ONE e-mail from you at all...Yet you say you send them. Others send e-mails to [email protected] and we receive those just fine.

This forum is not our support area. Why haven't you ever created an account (or maybe you have) and made a support ticket about all of this instead of creating all of these posts on the forum? It seems to me that you want attention for what you are doing.

We are more than willing to help you with these websites, as I have told you MANY times before in your previous threads, but you NEVER contacted me or the email for this. You say you e-mail us, but you don't, or maybe you are sending it to the wrong address.

This is the last time I am going to respond in this thread, please leave me your DIRECT e-mail address, not some contact form...We also have a contact form, yet you never filled that out either.

[AdultKing]

You do realize we are humans and we have to sleep and do other things besides check this forum all day long correct?

How about instead of posting gigantic long images of things, you actually e-mail us? We have not received ONE e-mail from you at all...Yet you say you send them. Others send e-mails to [email protected] and we receive those just fine.

This forum is not our support area. Why haven't you ever created an account (or maybe you have) and made a support ticket about all of this instead of creating all of these posts on the forum? It seems to me that you want attention for what you are doing.

We are more than willing to help you with these websites, as I have told you MANY times before in your previous threads, but you NEVER contacted me or the email for this. You say you e-mail us, but you don't, or maybe you are sending it to the wrong address.

This is the last time I am going to respond in this thread, please leave me your DIRECT e-mail address, not some contact form...We also have a contact form, yet you never filled that out either.

As far as I knew you were in Norway, perhaps you sleep until 3pm ?

We have sent emails to [email protected], there is one of them posted above in this thread. You have not responded to any of them.

Our emails are hosted by Google Apps which we find quite reliable when it comes to delivery, so I guess it must be something on your end.

I am not posting my direct email address in this thread, if you fill out the contact form here https://copycontrol.org/contact-us then I will respond and we can set up a meeting.

It should be noted that in past threads on this issue you have promised to resolve the piracy issues and have failed to do so.

This is your chance to make things right.

[Plugrush]

As far as I knew you were in Norway, perhaps you sleep until 3pm ?

We have sent emails to [email protected], there is one of them posted above in this thread. You have not responded to any of them.

Our emails are hosted by Google Apps which we find quite reliable when it comes to delivery, so I guess it must be something on your end.

I am not posting my direct email address in this thread, if you fill out the contact form here https://copycontrol.org/contact-us then I will respond and we can set up a meeting.

It should be noted that in past threads on this issue you have promised to resolve the piracy issues and have failed to do so.

This is your chance to make things right.

I am not in Norway. Our main office is in Norway yes. I used the contact form, look forward to talking to you.

[Alukard_X]

I talk to Russell at Plugrush all of the time on Skype and he always helps me with sites that have malware, removing them and stopping them

[AdultKing]

I am not in Norway. Our main office is in Norway yes. I used the contact form, look forward to talking to you.

Replied. Thank you.

[AdultKing]

Plugrush are in discussions with us, however they have told us that even if they terminate accounts they want to keep the ads being displayed.

To us this is unacceptable and we have conveyed this to them.

The point of terminating a publisher account is to stop anyone from benefiting from piracy, to continue to display ads means that Plugrush benefits from Piracy. This will not stand.

[brassmonkey]

Plugrush are in discussions with us, however they have told us that even if they terminate accounts they want to keep the ads being displayed.

To us this is unacceptable and we have conveyed this to them.

The point of terminating a publisher account is to stop anyone from benefiting from piracy, to continue to display ads means that Plugrush benefits from Piracy. This will not stand.

this is not fucking twitter

[nextri]

Hi AdultKing. Thx for again trying to make us out to be the bad guy and starting shit in public and accusing us of all kinds of unwarranted bullshit. You do love to create drama whenever you can.

A couple of things..

I have absolutely zero interest or need to explain our business to some random person who is not a client of ours as either a publisher or an advertiser. Once we have business to do together, I can spend more of my energy on your noise. However, I will respond here since there are other people reading it as well.

A couple of things..

First of all, PlugRush does not support piracy, and we will always assist anyone who finds something to report, and we will close down the accounts of people who clearly has a sole purpose of spreading piracy or malware. Our email is unfortunately a bit flooded these days, so the one email you sent back in may, has slipped through the cracks. The best way to get a response, or really the only way you can get a guaranteed response, is by having an account at plugrush.com and creating a support ticket. Please from now on, do that. You do not have to post them here in this thread, I will not go through them here. This is not a public plugrush support board. We have ways of doing support that works a lot better, that all others seems to be able to use.

Secondly, Plugrush now has 68040 registered domains. We do not manually approve new sites, because there really is no point. Even if we approve each site individually, we can't know from what page on each domain they are sending traffic. There is absolutely no possible way for us to pre-approve each source of traffic. Even if we do approve their homepage, and it seems clean, we can not know if that will change or if they create subpages with pirated content. And even if content seem like pirated content, it may very well be licensed.
I'm sure there are legit companies that tried to spread their content on file lockers as a marketing strategy.
You release some content on pirate sites to get people to see it and want more, then get free traffic to your main site. I'm sure that can work, and that people are doing it.
How are we suppose to know these things, what is licensed and what is not?
There are of course clear cases where there is no doubt, and I assume there are a lot of sites like that in our system. The only thing we can do is act when we get reports about it.

But to be honest, it's not really a priority for us to actively go through our 68k sites and look for things like this. That is not our job, and would only be a huge cost for us, which in return would make us less competitive as a network, because of the extra costs involved. We prefer to focus on getting people to pay for porn, and not spend our time on something that will accomplish exactly nothing, and will cost a ton of money, and also will not do anything towards getting people to stop pirating content.

It is apparently your job to do so, and you get paid to do it, and even though all the sites you find have close to no traffic at all, we are willing to spend our time going through your reports and deactivating sites that are clearly just made to promote pirated content. But, we need you to create support tickets about it, and I will see to it that it gets followed up.

We will not disable the adzones, and make them not display ads, but we will disable the publisher account so they stop making money. That is what your objective is, and it's a win win win for all of us. It's important that we do filter the traffic away from piracy sites, and towards our advertisers pages where they can pay for legit content.

PlugRush is a network that is actually a part of making this industry grow and generate revenue. We are a big contributor to people pulling up their credit cards, and actually spend money on porn. How I see it, it would be a good thing if all sites with piracy on them had ads for products that people can actually pay for, because it's important to lead people away from the free stuff, and towards what you have to pay for. And that is the whole concept of what we as an ad network are doing. We get people to pay for things. None of our advertisers would want to buy traffic from us if it weren't generating any revenue. So wherever our ads are shown, they are contributing to people pulling up their credit card, rather than downloading the content for free.

Anyone who is saying this business is declining is fooling themselves, and are probably spending their time and energy on wrong things, like suing pirates, or going after micro spam blogs using filelockers to spread vids to nerds for free, instead of going after the tubesites that probably has 90% of the adult traffic on the entire internet.
There is a ton of revenue to be collected in this business, and people are spending more money online then they have ever done in the history of the world.

Whatever it is your trying to accomplish, I have my doubts about it having any results at all. It's about as effective as trying to sue people for downloading content. It's not gonna do a god damn thing towards changing people attitued towards pirated porn. And you have this idea that going after filelockers is somehow gonna help, when it is the tubes that are really getting all the traffic.
Trying to fix a problem like piracy is not going to be solved by going after those spreading piracy. Other industries has shown that the only thing that will work, is making better products, evolving, keeping up with technology, and being innovative.

The music and movie/tv industry are starting to figure it out, with services like spotify, netflix, hulu, etc. Services that actually are getting people to stop pirating music and movies. 10 years ago everyone I knew downloaded pirated music. Record companies tried to stop it by closing down napster and making it harder to find online, suing users, making fake torrent, but it didn't help at all. What helped and resulted in me now not knowing anyone who really pirates music, is technology, innovation and brilliant people creating new things that people are willing to pay for. Like spotify, wimp, pandora and tons of other music services.

The adult industry could learn a couple of things from that.

[AdultKing]

So what you're saying is "We'll terminate the publisher, not pay them, but continue to make money from the ad clicks"

Ad zones need to be disabled. There's no way around that. You need to send a message, as a deterrent to others, the only way to do that is draw a line in the sand and disable the ads.

I know you have 35 million reasons to keep your business growing, however our constituency, our represented rights holders, will not stand by and watch Plugrush monetize the piracy of their content.

It's up to you what you want to do. We have replied to Russell saying the same thing.

[AllAboutCams]

Hi AdultKing. Thx for again trying to make us out to be the bad guy and starting shit in public and accusing us of all kinds of unwarranted bullshit. You do love to create drama whenever you can.

A couple of things..

I have absolutely zero interest or need to explain our business to some random person who is not a client of ours as either a publisher or an advertiser. Once we have business to do together, I can spend more of my energy on your noise. However, I will respond here since there are other people reading it as well.

A couple of things..

First of all, PlugRush does not support piracy, and we will always assist anyone who finds something to report, and we will close down the accounts of people who clearly has a sole purpose of spreading piracy or malware. Our email is unfortunately a bit flooded these days, so the one email you sent back in may, has slipped through the cracks. The best way to get a response, or really the only way you can get a guaranteed response, is by having an account at plugrush.com and creating a support ticket. Please from now on, do that. You do not have to post them here in this thread, I will not go through them here. This is not a public plugrush support board. We have ways of doing support that works a lot better, that all others seems to be able to use.

Secondly, Plugrush now has 68040 registered domains. We do not manually approve new sites, because there really is no point. Even if we approve each site individually, we can't know from what page on each domain they are sending traffic. There is absolutely no possible way for us to pre-approve each source of traffic. Even if we do approve their homepage, and it seems clean, we can not know if that will change or if they create subpages with pirated content. And even if content seem like pirated content, it may very well be licensed.
I'm sure there are legit companies that tried to spread their content on file lockers as a marketing strategy.
You release some content on pirate sites to get people to see it and want more, then get free traffic to your main site. I'm sure that can work, and that people are doing it.
How are we suppose to know these things, what is licensed and what is not?
There are of course clear cases where there is no doubt, and I assume there are a lot of sites like that in our system. The only thing we can do is act when we get reports about it.

But to be honest, it's not really a priority for us to actively go through our 68k sites and look for things like this. That is not our job, and would only be a huge cost for us, which in return would make us less competitive as a network, because of the extra costs involved. We prefer to focus on getting people to pay for porn, and not spend our time on something that will accomplish exactly nothing, and will cost a ton of money, and also will not do anything towards getting people to stop pirating content.

It is apparently your job to do so, and you get paid to do it, and even though all the sites you find have close to no traffic at all, we are willing to spend our time going through your reports and deactivating sites that are clearly just made to promote pirated content. But, we need you to create support tickets about it, and I will see to it that it gets followed up.

We will not disable the adzones, and make them not display ads, but we will disable the publisher account so they stop making money. That is what your objective is, and it's a win win win for all of us. It's important that we do filter the traffic away from piracy sites, and towards our advertisers pages where they can pay for legit content.

PlugRush is a network that is actually a part of making this industry grow and generate revenue. We are a big contributor to people pulling up their credit cards, and actually spend money on porn. How I see it, it would be a good thing if all sites with piracy on them had ads for products that people can actually pay for, because it's important to lead people away from the free stuff, and towards what you have to pay for. And that is the whole concept of what we as an ad network are doing. We get people to pay for things. None of our advertisers would want to buy traffic from us if it weren't generating any revenue. So wherever our ads are shown, they are contributing to people pulling up their credit card, rather than downloading the content for free.

Anyone who is saying this business is declining is fooling themselves, and are probably spending their time and energy on wrong things, like suing pirates, or going after micro spam blogs using filelockers to spread vids to nerds for free, instead of going after the tubesites that probably has 90% of the adult traffic on the entire internet.
There is a ton of revenue to be collected in this business, and people are spending more money online then they have ever done in the history of the world.

Whatever it is your trying to accomplish, I have my doubts about it having any results at all. It's about as effective as trying to sue people for downloading content. It's not gonna do a god damn thing towards changing people attitued towards pirated porn. And you have this idea that going after filelockers is somehow gonna help, when it is the tubes that are really getting all the traffic.
Trying to fix a problem like piracy is not going to be solved by going after those spreading piracy. Other industries has shown that the only thing that will work, is making better products, evolving, keeping up with technology, and being innovative.

The music and movie/tv industry are starting to figure it out, with services like spotify, netflix, hulu, etc. Services that actually are getting people to stop pirating music and movies. 10 years ago everyone I knew downloaded pirated music. Record companies tried to stop it by closing down napster and making it harder to find online, suing users, making fake torrent, but it didn't help at all. What helped and resulted in me now not knowing anyone who really pirates music, is technology, innovation and brilliant people creating new things that people are willing to pay for. Like spotify, wimp, pandora and tons of other music services.

The adult industry could learn a couple of things from that.

Well said

[Markul]

I see that AK's work has derailed into attacking advertisement companies instead of spending time on the actual file lockers as was "agreed" with his campaign.

That's not something I want to support anymore and have now terminated my measly Paypal subscription. I strongly advise everyone else to do the same thing right away.

Ignorant as I am, I thought he was doing something good - then I come and see this shit