Outranking a Youtube listing in the serps - GoFuckYourself.com

Blackbird · 09-18-2011, 09:25 AM

Hello,

Probably a simple question but I appreciate the input.

I have found a set of keywords that normally would look relatively easy to rank highly for but there is one issue I'm not sure about.

The top 2-3 spots are taken by youtube or other video sites. Their title and description on the google listing is fairly relevant and the onpage text is also relevant, but these pages have zero backlinks.

If I create sites that have basic seo and backlinking, should I be able to outrank these pages?

Thanks for your answers.

AdultKing · 09-18-2011, 09:41 AM

It's possible, however Youtube does seem to be favored.

The trick here is to be somewhat more relevant than the YouTube results, there are a few ways to do this but social bookmarking and social network marketing is the best way to do it.

I've got a guide on this type of issue in the works, if you go here and sign up to the email list you'll get notified when it's available.

The basic idea is to build authority, this is a whole subject in itself.

esham · 09-18-2011, 03:34 PM

Check those videos are they spammy? Just submit them to youtube and they will be gone.

dazzling · 09-20-2011, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird

Hello,

Probably a simple question but I appreciate the input.

I have found a set of keywords that normally would look relatively easy to rank highly for but there is one issue I'm not sure about.

The top 2-3 spots are taken by youtube or other video sites. Their title and description on the google listing is fairly relevant and the onpage text is also relevant, but these pages have zero backlinks.

If I create sites that have basic seo and backlinking, should I be able to outrank these pages?

Thanks for your answers.

Youtube is owned by google and these days google is turning into a self promotion engine. Most of the top serps now are held by its own properties or members of the OPA.
If you build consistent backlinks it helps, but the focus of google now is artificial neural pathways on learning machine development, so I would focus your efforts there for a number 1 ranking. Backlinks should focus more on social networks now and not so much on websites anymore. Bing/yahoo will rank heavily on facebook n twitter likes/shares. Google does not have full access to this data and relies more on neural pathways now.
Best of luck.

gideongallery · 10-09-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dazzling

Youtube is owned by google and these days google is turning into a self promotion engine. Most of the top serps now are held by its own properties or members of the OPA.
If you build consistent backlinks it helps, but the focus of google now is artificial neural pathways on learning machine development, so I would focus your efforts there for a number 1 ranking. Backlinks should focus more on social networks now and not so much on websites anymore. Bing/yahoo will rank heavily on facebook n twitter likes/shares. Google does not have full access to this data and relies more on neural pathways now.
Best of luck.

one thing you have to take into account is that the video bar position is based on SUM of all the videos in the bar

this is a case were it is easier to join them rather then fight them.

javinder_mn · 10-10-2011, 07:59 AM

is there a bearing on how many views the vids get, the text under the vid is likely to matter too.

but agree with adultking, authority is key!

Jack Sparrow · 10-10-2011, 09:17 AM

Or you could do the same thing and make use of the methods to outrank your competition by using high impact video on youtube etc.

Check out: http://www.thevideorankingcode.com

NetHorse · 10-11-2011, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzling

-snip- Google is turning into a self promotion engine. Most of the top serps now are held by its own properties or members of the OPA.

Bingo.

javinder_mn · 10-11-2011, 07:12 AM

Check out: http://www.thevideorankingcode.com[/QUOTE]

seen this sales script before, even down to the pic of the porsche cayman

09-18-2011, 09:25 AM	#1
Blackbird Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8	Outranking a Youtube listing in the serps Hello, Probably a simple question but I appreciate the input. I have found a set of keywords that normally would look relatively easy to rank highly for but there is one issue I'm not sure about. The top 2-3 spots are taken by youtube or other video sites. Their title and description on the google listing is fairly relevant and the onpage text is also relevant, but these pages have zero backlinks. If I create sites that have basic seo and backlinking, should I be able to outrank these pages? Thanks for your answers.

09-18-2011, 09:41 AM	#2
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,602	It's possible, however Youtube does seem to be favored. The trick here is to be somewhat more relevant than the YouTube results, there are a few ways to do this but social bookmarking and social network marketing is the best way to do it. I've got a guide on this type of issue in the works, if you go here and sign up to the email list you'll get notified when it's available. The basic idea is to build authority, this is a whole subject in itself. Last edited by AdultKing; 09-18-2011 at 09:42 AM..

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javinder_mn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 189	Check out: http://www.thevideorankingcode.com[/QUOTE] seen this sales script before, even down to the pic of the porsche cayman __________________ One Result Digital Marketing Agency: Design and Development for Web and Mobile skype: jave225 email: [email protected] twitter: @jave225

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Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Or you could do the same thing and make use of the methods to outrank your competition by using high impact video on youtube etc. Check out: http://www.thevideorankingcode.com