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czarina · 05-26-2010, 10:40 AM

This land belongs to the Apaches, Sioux, Cherokee, Navajo, etc. Everybody else is here illegally, so they have no right to raise such a stink.

OOPS! Meant to say "America belongs to the Indians"... extra "n" there :P

Fletch XXX · 05-26-2010, 10:42 AM

I have Cherokee blood in me LOL family was here for 300 years.

Quagmire · 05-26-2010, 10:43 AM

eat shit

sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 10:43 AM

Please name a country on the planet who's land was not conquered by someone else at some point...

good luck with that.

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Tanker · 05-26-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Please name a country on the planet who's land was not conquered by someone else at some point...

good luck with that.

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Europeans conquered The Americas and now the war for land begins again in the southwestern USA and I hope the American government realizes this army is not in Uniform and must be stopped or America will become Mexico pretty quick.

It happens everyday somewhere on the planet

Sly · 05-26-2010, 10:48 AM

Mexico belongs to the Mayans, the Incas. Certainly not the Spanish and European settlers that moved in and slaughtered the native tribes. All of those native tribes running around in the Amazon... they own Brazil, Paraguay, any neighboring nations.

Everybody else better get the fuck out!

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Please name a country on the planet who's land was not conquered by someone else at some point...

good luck with that.

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Antartica.

Jdoughs · 05-26-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Please name a country on the planet who's land was not conquered by someone else at some point...

good luck with that.

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Japan, do I win?

czarina · 05-26-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Please name a country on the planet who's land was not conquered by someone else at some point...
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I completely agree... every inch of land on our planet has been conquered and changed hands throughout history. That's life.
The problem is when the "conquerors" start puffing their chests and acting holier than thou, and kicking people out of a land that wasn't theirs to begin with.

sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tanker

Europeans conquered The Americas and now the war for land begins again in the southwestern USA and I hope the American government realizes this army is not in Uniform and must be stopped or America will become Mexico pretty quick.

It happens everyday somewhere on the planet

Yup.

Actually, even before that, the American Indians were conquering land from each other, and the Inca Empire conquered a TON of land, enslaving countless numbers all the way up into what became New Mexico and Texas, long before europeans arrived.

The fact is that EVERY COUNTRY IS THE RESULT OF SOMEONE INVADING SOMEONE ELSE...

GET OVER IT

(here endith the lesson)

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sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Japan, do I win?

Nope, the original separate tribal lands there were eventually conquered by one tribe, which then turned it into a shogunate, and eventually a country.

next....

Fletch XXX · 05-26-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina

I completely agree... every inch of land on our planet has been conquered and changed hands throughout history. That's life.
The problem is when the "conquerors" start puffing their chests and acting holier than thou, and kicking people out of a land that wasn't theirs to begin with.

we get it you hate Americans, just stay in Mexico and we wont have to deport you LOL

Mr. Romance · 05-26-2010, 10:54 AM

You are 1000% correct

Mr. Romance

Sly · 05-26-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina

This land belongs to the Apaches, Sioux, Cherokee, Navajo, etc. Everybody else is here illegally, so they have no right to raise such a stink.

OOPS! Meant to say "America belongs to the Indians"... extra "n" there :P

Actually your argument doesn't even make sense. Most of us Americans are legal because we were born here and that is what the law is. Others of us have taken proper legal channels to become legal citizens, again that is what the law is.

If you want to fight the law and start an American native revolution, go for it... though you might have a hard time, they probably like their casino money.

Supz · 05-26-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Japan, do I win?

actually no, we won in Japan in WWII.

sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina

I completely agree... every inch of land on our planet has been conquered and changed hands throughout history. That's life.
The problem is when the "conquerors" start puffing their chests and acting holier than thou, and kicking people out of a land that wasn't theirs to begin with.

Sorry, but the fact is that here in the real world, every country has the right to protect, control and defend it's borders. The USA is not wrong for doing what every other country on the planet does.

I personally have a problem when people start puffing out their chest about one country (The USA in this instance) doing something, without then going ahead and castigating EVERY OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET.

You need to make a thread that NO ONE is allowed to control their borders and every single country should stop it!

...and good luck with that also...

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sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Mexico belongs to the Mayans, the Incas. Certainly not the Spanish and European settlers that moved in and slaughtered the native tribes. All of those native tribes running around in the Amazon... they own Brazil, Paraguay, any neighboring nations.

Everybody else better get the fuck out!

the Mayans and Incas conquered the people that were there before them.... so THEY need to leave also, by your logic.

Sly · 05-26-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

the Mayans and Incas conquered the people that were there before them.... so THEY need to leave also, by your logic.

Except it's not my logic. :-)

Quagmire · 05-26-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Antartica.

Not a country, that is a continent.

Fletch XXX · 05-26-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Sorry, but the fact is that here in the real world, every country has the right to protect, control and defend it's borders. The USA is not wrong for doing what every other country on the planet does.

I personally have a problem when people start puffing out their chest about one country (The USA in this instance) doing something, without then going ahead and castigating EVERY OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET.

You need to make a thread that NO ONE is allowed to control their borders and every single country should stop it!

...and good luck with that also...

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Dude dont waste your time with logic and facts talking to people who live in mexico when it comes to illegal immigrants. They ALWAYS have friends/family who are illegals and wil never see this as Americans do. Its just how it is.

sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Except it's not my logic. :-)

Actually.... It is.

BUT THANK YOU FOR PLAYING!!

(There will be a nice consolation prize at the door...)

Sly · 05-26-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Actually.... It is.

BUT THANK YOU FOR PLAYING!!

(There will be a nice consolation prize at the door...)

Uh, no, it's not.

Thanks for playing. No consolation prize.

Jman · 05-26-2010, 11:09 AM

sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Uh, no, it's not.

Thanks for playing. No consolation prize.

If this was your statement:

"Mexico belongs to the Mayans, the Incas. Certainly not the Spanish and European settlers that moved in and slaughtered the native tribes. All of those native tribes running around in the Amazon... they own Brazil, Paraguay, any neighboring nations.

Everybody else better get the fuck out!"

So then only the people that live on the same continent have the right to conquer, slaughter and enslave people in lands other than their own?

The Inca's did not own all the land.... they took if from tribes that were there before them. So then only if you come by ship you can't conquer? What if you come by canoe? Isn't that a small ship? What if you conquer land across a river? Isn't that just a smaller stretch of water than an ocean?

You are going to have to clearly define under what set of circumstances it is valid to conquer other peoples land, and under which it is not.

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Sly · 05-26-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

If this was your statement:

"Mexico belongs to the Mayans, the Incas. Certainly not the Spanish and European settlers that moved in and slaughtered the native tribes. All of those native tribes running around in the Amazon... they own Brazil, Paraguay, any neighboring nations.

Everybody else better get the fuck out!"

So then only the people that live on the same continent have the right to conquer, slaughter and enslave people in lands other than their own?

The Inca's did not own all the land.... they took if from tribes that were there before them. So then only if you come by ship you can't conquer? What if you come by canoe? Isn't that a small ship? What if you conquer land across a river? Isn't that just a smaller stretch of water than an ocean?

You are going to have to clearly define under what set of circumstances it is valid to conquer other peoples land, and under which it is not.

.

It was sarcasm, which I'm sure most picked up on based on how retarded the statement was, which I later followed up with clearly stating that it was not my logic.

Put down the sword.

Jdoughs · 05-26-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Nope, the original separate tribal lands there were eventually conquered by one tribe, which then turned it into a shogunate, and eventually a country.

next....

Indigenous peoples (japanese) from 14000 BC have been confirmed to be direct descendants of the same Japanese living today, guess where, yes Japan!

Same people, same land, never conquered or taken over. Period.

sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Indigenous peoples (japanese) from 14000 BC have been confirmed to be direct descendants of the same Japanese living today, guess where, yes Japan!

Same people, same land, never conquered or taken over. Period.

Yes, but even though they were the same race, they were different tribes...and there was PLENTY of brutal conquering going back and forth between tribes on the islands of Japan.

(unless you think that being brutally conquered by people that happen to be the same race as you is ok.... in which case being a european conquered by another european would have been fine for you)

Sly · 05-26-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Indigenous peoples (japanese) from 14000 BC have been confirmed to be direct descendants of the same Japanese living today, guess where, yes Japan!

Same people, same land, never conquered or taken over. Period.

That's not what he said though.

Japan had various tribes and groups of people, much like any country or space of land throughout the world. Those tribes fought and conquered each other.

You aren't suggesting that Japanese people for the past 30,000 years (which is when Japan was first settled) have always been an extreme peaceful bunch that never fought with each other?

sperbonzo · 05-26-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

It was sarcasm, which I'm sure most picked up on based on how retarded the statement was, which I later followed up with clearly stating that it was not my logic.

Put down the sword.

Sorry Sly.... my bad!

I was on a posting roll.... and I failed to stop to taste the sarcasm.

Sword sheepishly handed over.

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LoveSandra · 05-26-2010, 11:57 AM

i dont think is that true

MetaMan · 05-26-2010, 11:58 AM

My dad took 12 years and i dont know how many countless green cards to become a citizen, being away from his family etc. so fuck any of you illegal supporters you dont know shit.

just like they have the human "right" to try to cross the US govt has the human "right" to send them back.

JP-pornshooter · 05-26-2010, 12:33 PM

i think once Japan was invaded by Chinese tribes.

but think about it, the indian tribes are a result of Asians crossing the Bering strait and "invading" north and south america thousands of years ago.. same with Eskimos in Alaska and Greenland etc.

Deej · 05-26-2010, 01:42 PM

Hey SPerber...

Egypt... WHAT!?!?

Penthouse Tony · 05-26-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Hey SPerber...

Egypt... WHAT!?!?

There is a city in Egypt called Alexandria. It was founded by Alexander the Great who was from Macedon. Later you have the Muslim conquest.

LeRoy · 05-26-2010, 01:59 PM

No love for Mexicans I guess

Miz_Wright · 05-26-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Actually your argument doesn't even make sense. Most of us Americans are legal because we were born here and that is what the law is. Others of us have taken proper legal channels to become legal citizens, again that is what the law is.

If you want to fight the law and start an American native revolution, go for it... though you might have a hard time, they probably like their casino money.

Except, we - the US - are doing things like detaining our own citizens.

Because they are brown.

See? Born here. Still being detained.

Xenophobia says what?

Sly · 05-26-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Except, we - the US - are doing things like detaining our own citizens.

Because they are brown.

See? Born here. Still being detained.

Xenophobia says what?

Yes, that is a terrible situation and I feel for him. I am not much of a feeling guy.

But guess what? Police get busted nonstop for crimes. Should we not have police?

Mayors get busted nonstop for crimes. Right now the Detroit Mayor is going through an onslaught for all kinds of crazy ass bizarre hugely criminal things that he did. Should we not have mayors?

Senators and Representatives get busted for crimes. And although I'll probably make an argument for getting rid of Senators and Representatives later today... I have to ask, should we get rid of them all? Seriously?

Members of the military get busted for crimes. Murder, rape, domestic violence, drug dealing... should we not have a military?

One wrong does not negate the need to get rid of another wrong.

The Gulf of Mexico is having quite the party right now. Shall we ban oil?

DateDoc · 05-26-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

No love for Mexicans I guess

It is not a love or hate for Mexicans. It is about being here illegally or not.

TheDoc · 05-26-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

This land belongs to the Apaches, Sioux, Cherokee, Navajo, etc. Everybody else is here illegally, so they have no right to raise such a stink.

OOPS! Meant to say "America belongs to the Indians"... extra "n" there :P

Well then, I have every right to bitch and then some... half my family still lives on an Indian Reservation and the other half is British.

So all of you bitches get out!

will76 · 05-26-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

This land belongs to the Apaches, Sioux, Cherokee, Navajo, etc. Everybody else is here illegally, so they have no right to raise such a stink.

OOPS! Meant to say "America belongs to the Indians"... extra "n" there :P

that is a retarded comparison if you trying to draw any parallels to the illegals coming in from mexico. Nice 2nd grade type argument... congrats~!!

seeandsee · 05-26-2010, 02:32 PM

land will be occupied by more gun power nation

will76 · 05-26-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Antartica.

pretty sure that is a continent and not a country.

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Japan, do I win?

WTF?? The US conquered Japan 60 years ago.

Penthouse Tony · 05-26-2010, 02:44 PM

The trees and bison were here before anyone else. Let's all leave.

BestXXXPorn · 05-26-2010, 02:46 PM

LOL... You mean Native Americans :P

american pervert · 05-26-2010, 05:23 PM

the spoils of war go to the victors

the indians should of tried harder.

go suck a dick.

closer · 05-26-2010, 05:35 PM

This immigration issue is growing out of hand it seems... there always has been (AFAIK) illegal immigration, what prompted this big hysteria ?

MrBottomTooth · 05-26-2010, 05:45 PM

They shouldn't have accepted our fire water and fancy smallpox blankets.

czarina · 05-26-2010, 07:15 PM

I still disagree...
American belongs to the Indians; we have no right to call ourselves kings on the mountain and go around pushing people out of the country. Mostly not from Arizona, which was part of Mexico in the first place!

BFT3K · 05-26-2010, 07:25 PM

Actually the cavemen were here first, and they were in this business way before we were too!

HeadPimp · 05-26-2010, 10:12 PM

The Indians lost, which should have been the end of the story. Too bad we got soft and gave them reservations and 'special rights' which fuck the rest of us.

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