PornMogul

I need a billing company for my escort directory website that can modify the disclosure on the join form. By either putting it at the bottom of the page, below the submit button. Or if you can make it twenty eight dollars and eighty four cents instead of 28.84 so its more hidden. Or if you can put the disclosure in the terms and conditions? Any of those will work. If your a billing company that can do that, please email me or post here. My traffic is good with very low cb's. thanks!

mmcfadden

why do you sell anything online for 28.84? What you would need is your own merchant account which would require you providing past sales

Crash2007

Shit, is everyone a scammer nowadays? In the past week I have found more sites that say join for free then you scroll to 2 pages down to see the cross sales to 2 other sites checked off at 39.95 and 49.95. Faggets are giving every other site a bad rep by doing this. Don't wanna point fingers but does anyone see this from a company called w*gcash thats were most of the ips were tracked back 2 and affiliate links?

What ever happened to running a good site and trying to RETAIN members by doing good and not trying to fuck them over with charge tactics like this. Wonder how long visa will allow these merchants to operate like this? I never got taken just observing the market and I was pissed that they can operate like this.

Love to here more opinions on this.

BIGTYMER

Yep. Our industry is full of poor business practices that give us all a bad name.

PornMogul

I don't have any processing history yet, so I need a 3rd party payment processing company. Obviously from all these posts, we know there are plenty of people using billing companies who will do this. So my question is, which billing company can get this done for me?

I won't be doing any cross sales, just a trial which recurs into a monthly join.

mmcfadden

I'll answer my own question... the reason 28.84 is on sites is bc they use an offshore bank for processing and that is the US dollar conversion. Obviously you have gone to a site and saw it worded as a price description.

Your best bet is to stop while you are ahead, use somebody like zomboai since you do not have affiliates and do not need to pay a fee, and start making sales.

Then, when you have sales, get a merchant account, make it clear what the price is and that it will recur but in a fashion that is well thought out.

So yes... NOT IMMEDIATELY ABOVE THE SUBMIT BUTTON ON A FORM THAT IS IMPULSE IN NATURE AND TRYING TO COLLECT CC INFO!

google checkout is a great example of how to show wtf you are buying without being OVER PRECAUTIOUS

PornMogul

actually, the reason some sites are 28.84 is the same reason I want to make it that, but I wont say the reason here. Some (very few) billing companies can have it worded in the disclosure as twenty eight dollars and eighty four cents. Most won't let you. Zombaio wont accept any escort sites whatsoever so they are no good. I do have affiliates so I need an affiliate program. If I had the $ and processing history, I would get an adult merch account. Those arent the easiest to get. Hopefully theres a billing company that can mod the disclosure a bit.

mmcfadden

I icq'd you. Maybe somebody else can comment why 28.84 is the price to beat.

There is no way a billing company will step in here and offer you a way to "hide" your pricing structure. That's biz 101.

BIGTYMER

Whats the $28.84 reason? Please explain.

I thought biz taught us to end everything in a 5....

PornMogul

I dont use icq all that much anymore, and I don't think we have anything to discuss. Unless you know of a billing company that can help me. Plenty of major companies "hide" their disclosure. Sure you won't find it in ethics 101 lol. Im looking at directv right now and they hide plenty of shit so you wont see it. They have had plenty of lawsuits for hiding charges and making it confusing for the consumer to understand. Don't believe me? look it up. There are billing companies who will mod the join form for me, so I can put the disclosure below the submit button. Thats not hiding it, its moving it. There are plenty of billers who will move it to a different spot. I could reference 100 different sites to prove my point, but I wont waste your time or mine.

At the end of the day, if I can't mod the join form, its no big deal. I will be running a legitimate site and I don't need to move the disclosure. I just think it would simply drive more sales.

BIGTYMER

Whats the $28.84 reason?

PornMogul

as for bigtymers response, Im not going to share it here. Honestly I think its pretty obvious already, but if you can't figure it out then sucks for you. Please continue doing it your way. If everyone did my way, then my method wouldn't be anywhere near as effective. I wish I didn't even post any of this but alas, I need a biller who can accommodate my needs.

mmcfadden

There is no way you will get what you are looking for.

Why are you posting like a whale when you already said you don't process? That is what you said... so how do you know anything about making sales except from what you've SEEN on other sites.

I still don't know about 28.84 bc I always thought it was an oversees conversion. Enlighten us all but I guess you won't bc you are too smart.

Ever heard the quote "thick as thieves". What that eludes to is if in fact you really did want to "hide" the price/recurring or whatever... you would keep your mouth shut.

Unless this is just a troll post which I am starting to think it is bc clearly nobody can be this stupid... right?

PornMogul

I have done thousands of sales buddy, just not on my own sites. I have done sales for every major company in this business, and I have seen many many join pages in my day. I may need some processing history or better yet my own merch account to get this done. But someone with their own merch account could hook me up if they wanted to make $ off me. Especially since my traffic will have very low cb ratio. If I have to start off with a regular processing account with full disclosure, then thats what im going to do. Im just trying to see if theres anyone with a merch account out there who would like to work with me.

Im not even going to respond to the 2nd half of your post.

BIGTYMER

Whatever. You have no logic behind $28.84. You saw some other site use it so you thought they must've had some logic in using it.

mmcfadden

i remember checking 12clicks sites and either he didn't show the price at all or he had a strange number like 28.84.

PornMogul

LOL fine ill tell you all. I thought everyone knew this, but I guess ill contribute to gfy public knowledge for once haha. its so the person thinks its a one time random fee instead of him thinking $29.99, must be a recurring membership fee! If they go to a restaurant etc, they dont get charged 29.99, its always some random 28.84 number. If you charge 29.99, 29.95, the customer is much more likely to cancel IMO (in my opinion.) If its 26.72, youll probably get a few more months out of them, or even more.

mmcfadden

only if you hide (and when I say hide I mean completely hidden) the recurring part

PornMogul

right, or put it under the submit button at the bottom of the page. The only way you can completely hide it, is if its in the terms and conditions, but most companies can't do that. Are there any companies that can put it below the submit button?

mmcfadden

editing my post

mmcfadden

here you go homie... talk to this guy, he is actually the front runner on everything. sales, join forms, he knows all

248615-940

PornMogul

ok ill hit him up. Hopefully he can hook me up. thanks mang

mmcfadden

that's paul from ccbill... he will not hook u up. I was being sarcastic. If you ICQ me I will give you a name of somebody that can help you out if you "qualify".

do not rip surfers off... do not hide any shit... there is 1000 ways to skin a cat and the processors that do adult are losing about 50% of sales bc of their join forms.

you have a valid point about wanting to customize... there is no reason to hide anything though. Just make it good... ya know

PornMogul

oh ok well I retract my post thanking you. You have done nothing but waste my time and I will NOT be icqing you, since you obviously have nothing to offer but to waste my time. If theres anyone else out there who can actually help me, please email me. Im just looking to customize the join form. I won't be ripping any surfers off, nor will I be doing any cross sales. Like I said in my original post, my cb's will be low low low. When you rip surfers off, youll get alot of cb's

mmcfadden

wow... your a real asshole. i just gave you info. worth way more then anything you have ever built and you insult me...

good luck ripping off your customers

PornMogul

lol you gave me info worth way more then anything I have ever built? Im laughing too hard to even reply to that one. Im done replying to anything you post.

BIGTYMER

Try searching Google for adult merchant account. I highly doubt any of the main adult processors on here will do this for you.

But I think you should just ditch the idea and make money the proper way. What you are trying to do is very scammy.

BIGTYMER