Should a programs affiliate rep be fired if.... - GoFuckYourself.com

spacedog · 08-28-2009, 07:54 AM

Say affiliateprogramX has a rep whom looked at webmasters stats and then copied the most successful affiliates methods as well as targetted the same keywords as the affiliates most successful keywords, should this rep be fired?

I'm extrememly irate at a certain incident where I believe this happened.

I had a site that had dozens of #1 -5 spots for some keyword terms/phrases that netted me 1000s of uniques per day and had very high conversions.. It remained this way for quite some time until one day a rep from programX hits me up and tells me how great my stats are, blah blah blah... next thing you know, a couple days later.. POOOFFF... All my traffic is gone and I check serps for my terms and there in my spots is this reps own fucking sites!!!!!!!!!

Fletch XXX · 08-28-2009, 07:55 AM

rep A will work for company B for X amount of time, then move to Company C and take your Idea #6 and = $

Daruma · 08-28-2009, 07:56 AM

should name names and out both the program and the rep

Grisey · 08-28-2009, 07:56 AM

Yes, reps are ment to help you make money not fuck you over thats for other affiliates to try and beat you in google etc

DamageX · 08-28-2009, 07:56 AM

If he were working for me, I'd promote him.

Machete_ · 08-28-2009, 07:57 AM

no, just post the link and name here so everyone else can make up their mind if they want to risk their income, by sending them traffic

halfpint · 08-28-2009, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

If he were working for me, I'd promote him.

lol

Pics Traffic · 08-28-2009, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog

next thing you know, a couple days later.. POOOFFF... All my traffic is gone and I check serps for my terms and there in my spots is this reps own fucking sites!!!!!!!!!

couple of days and poof? That easy eh?

Agent 488 · 08-28-2009, 08:00 AM

something missing from this story.

Agent 488 · 08-28-2009, 08:01 AM

if he can "really" make a site and dominate the serps within two days you should be copying his methods.

wyldblyss · 08-28-2009, 08:02 AM

So you are saying he managed to take your placement in just 2 days?

spacedog · 08-28-2009, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOCKBA

couple of days and poof? That easy eh?

Couple days after my conversation with the rep, not couple days after he allegedly did what I think he did.

Agent 488 · 08-28-2009, 08:05 AM

well the google algo took you out, not his sites. unless he had like 20 of them to knock you off the first few pages.

and it would be impossible to prove anyway.

if you really suspect it not much you can do but take what traffic is left and go elsewhere.

Oracle Porn · 08-28-2009, 08:06 AM

name names or shut your trap.

RenegadeCash Mark · 08-28-2009, 08:09 AM

Well it's a pretty damn harsh thing for a rep to do thats for sure.

spacedog · 08-28-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

name names or shut your trap.

I'm not naming shit.. This is a theory.. something I assume to have occurred, not something that is absolute.

PR_Sebas · 08-28-2009, 08:24 AM

That's crazy. Sorry to hear that man. Hope you get your spots back.

Iron Fist · 08-28-2009, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

If he were working for me, I'd promote him.

..and then he'd fuck you over too.... sounds like a great deal!

FrozenJag · 08-28-2009, 08:41 AM

Yeah I would let him go.

If he is not trustworthy = Fired.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-28-2009, 09:01 AM

well first i would fire him , completely unethical behaviour for a rep.

Then i would hire him on as my seo expert

For those of you who think this is impossible , it really isnt very hard at all, especially if these are smaller niche terms. If he already had a good link base in place he simply bombs those keywords and bam he has his rank ( assuming some of his sites were somewhat similar to begin with )

ajrocks · 08-28-2009, 09:02 AM

Yes 100% In fact a good affiliate program will have reps sign contacts stating that they can't promote or develop traffic to prevent against this sort of thing. If i found out one of my reps was doing that they would be toast. Screwing over affiliate is bad business and a good program won't allow this to happen.

seeandsee · 08-28-2009, 09:18 AM

that was fast method!

mpahlca · 08-28-2009, 09:18 AM

Yep i would fire him, in a second, all our reps have non competes in their contract and CANNOT act as affiliates. If we caught them they would be gone. And I would cancel their account.

Serge Litehead · 08-28-2009, 09:34 AM

it is good idea to hide your pages from sponsors through doorway redirects

Lace · 08-28-2009, 09:37 AM

I don't think you could really prove this...and for them to 'knock you off completely' is nearly impossible unless they have massive sites in whatever niche to flood the serps. If they did, they would have done it before you anyway. All in all, if you can prove it, great. It's definitely wrong but that resorts back to ethics - most of the industry has no clue what that is anyway.

kristin · 08-28-2009, 10:11 AM

Heh, if the rep was on commission he should have figured out a way to increase your sales. I'm sure he can't keep up with it.

slayer69 · 08-28-2009, 10:50 AM

job well done

_Richard_ · 08-28-2009, 10:55 AM

definitely should be fired.. the fact that he has the same type of sites you do would be enough to take issue with the reps boss.

Tom_PM · 08-28-2009, 11:14 AM

It's a fine line on redirect pages as sponsors need to know where your traffic is *actually* being sent from if they get complaints or have reason to be concerned.

Not saying not to do it (I recommend jump pages for ease of editing myself), just saying you may be asked to reveal your traffic source at some point.

nation-x · 08-28-2009, 11:15 AM

Mom!!??? Is that you?!!!

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08-28-2009, 07:54 AM	#1
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Should a programs affiliate rep be fired if.... Say affiliateprogramX has a rep whom looked at webmasters stats and then copied the most successful affiliates methods as well as targetted the same keywords as the affiliates most successful keywords, should this rep be fired? I'm extrememly irate at a certain incident where I believe this happened. I had a site that had dozens of #1 -5 spots for some keyword terms/phrases that netted me 1000s of uniques per day and had very high conversions.. It remained this way for quite some time until one day a rep from programX hits me up and tells me how great my stats are, blah blah blah... next thing you know, a couple days later.. POOOFFF... All my traffic is gone and I check serps for my terms and there in my spots is this reps own fucking sites!!!!!!!!!

08-28-2009, 07:57 AM	#6
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	no, just post the link and name here so everyone else can make up their mind if they want to risk their income, by sending them traffic

08-28-2009, 08:00 AM	#9
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	something missing from this story.

08-28-2009, 08:01 AM	#10
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	if he can "really" make a site and dominate the serps within two days you should be copying his methods.

08-28-2009, 08:02 AM	#11
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	So you are saying he managed to take your placement in just 2 days?

08-28-2009, 08:05 AM	#13
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	well the google algo took you out, not his sites. unless he had like 20 of them to knock you off the first few pages. and it would be impossible to prove anyway. if you really suspect it not much you can do but take what traffic is left and go elsewhere.

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RenegadeCash Mark Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,002	Well it's a pretty damn harsh thing for a rep to do thats for sure. __________________ Make Real Money With Your Traffic! Promote Unsaturated High Converting Micro Niche Sites Pissing, Diapers, Teen, Amateur, Thai & More

08-28-2009, 08:24 AM	#17
PR_Sebas Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,825	That's crazy. Sorry to hear that man. Hope you get your spots back. __________________

08-28-2009, 08:41 AM	#19
FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	Yeah I would let him go. If he is not trustworthy = Fired.

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	well first i would fire him , completely unethical behaviour for a rep. Then i would hire him on as my seo expert For those of you who think this is impossible , it really isnt very hard at all, especially if these are smaller niche terms. If he already had a good link base in place he simply bombs those keywords and bam he has his rank ( assuming some of his sites were somewhat similar to begin with ) __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

08-28-2009, 09:02 AM	#21
ajrocks Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: On Uranus Posts: 4,526	Yes 100% In fact a good affiliate program will have reps sign contacts stating that they can't promote or develop traffic to prevent against this sort of thing. If i found out one of my reps was doing that they would be toast. Screwing over affiliate is bad business and a good program won't allow this to happen. __________________ SEO Strategy - Digital Strategy - Cannabis Lead Generation Skype aj.durden1

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mpahlca Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,821	Yep i would fire him, in a second, all our reps have non competes in their contract and CANNOT act as affiliates. If we caught them they would be gone. And I would cancel their account. __________________ I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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Lace Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,116	I don't think you could really prove this...and for them to 'knock you off completely' is nearly impossible unless they have massive sites in whatever niche to flood the serps. If they did, they would have done it before you anyway. All in all, if you can prove it, great. It's definitely wrong but that resorts back to ethics - most of the industry has no clue what that is anyway. __________________ Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars \| RadicalCash \| KennysPennies \| HomegrownCash

08-28-2009, 10:11 AM	#26
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	Heh, if the rep was on commission he should have figured out a way to increase your sales. I'm sure he can't keep up with it. __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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slayer69 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 626	job well done

08-28-2009, 10:55 AM	#28
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	definitely should be fired.. the fact that he has the same type of sites you do would be enough to take issue with the reps boss.

08-28-2009, 11:14 AM	#29
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	It's a fine line on redirect pages as sponsors need to know where your traffic is actually being sent from if they get complaints or have reason to be concerned. Not saying not to do it (I recommend jump pages for ease of editing myself), just saying you may be asked to reveal your traffic source at some point. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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