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marketsmart · 06-07-2008, 09:43 PM

honestly, how many people here will be leaving adult in the next six months if things don't improve?

secondly, what will you be leaving to? mainstream? off net job?

Darkhorse · 06-07-2008, 09:44 PM

Not me.....

After Shock Media · 06-07-2008, 09:47 PM

I think I will be sticking it out as I have yet to feel a serious pinch.
Though I also am looking at some additional offline ventures for extra income.

bronco67 · 06-07-2008, 09:48 PM

I'm preparing to get into the biz. Is it really that bad? Someone must be doing well, because it seems like there's 800 new porn movies every fucking week.

st0ned · 06-07-2008, 09:48 PM

I won't be going anywhere. My monthly earnings have been increasing steadily over the past 12 months. When the industry changes, change with it. On the other hand it is always good to diversify into other industries as well.

BAKO · 06-07-2008, 09:50 PM

Porn for Life

Fucksakes · 06-07-2008, 09:53 PM

I'm not going anywhere, been here for about 8 years and still TONS to learn and 1000's of new things to try.

Tat2Jr · 06-07-2008, 09:53 PM

Going anywhere? Hell no. Been here since '97. Can't imagine life without lots of naked 18 year olds running around my house. If things are going that badly you're not expanding in the right directions.

BAKO · 06-07-2008, 09:53 PM

Been in Porn since 1999 and every year it gets better ;)

eightmotives · 06-07-2008, 09:58 PM

My dick's too big to leave!

Compdoctor · 06-07-2008, 10:00 PM

when they leave there will be more for me

marketsmart · 06-07-2008, 10:02 PM

well, so far good to hear.. i hate quitters.. stick it out until you have exhausted all options...

i think its going to be tough the next 12-18 months, but i think there is money to be made by getting creative....

also, i am in agreement to supplement adult with either mainstream or offline projects...

s3xnetwork · 06-07-2008, 10:05 PM

I do both mainstream and adult, but even in the worst economy people still love sex and booze. This is a great time to be peddling porn and if you're not making good money at it, you're just not doing it right.

marketsmart · 06-07-2008, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compdoctor

when they leave there will be more for me

did your dad take his avatar back?

tony286 · 06-07-2008, 10:09 PM

Im in for the long haul, like working with my wife and being home with my dogs too much.

Peaches · 06-07-2008, 10:10 PM

How many people or the percentage? I wouldn't be surprised to see at least 30% go. And that doesn't include the ones I know are doing DAMNED well in adult but are focusing on mainstream in hopes to eventually wean off adult (at least most of it).

The interesting part will be the higher management positions being laid off. It's easy to hire a rep at a small salary and promises of big fat commissions, but if you're used to get getting that big fat pay day in and day out, it's going to be hard to match it elsewhere.

baddog · 06-07-2008, 10:14 PM

You guys are stuck with me. Too much fun to consider quitting.

Zorgman · 06-07-2008, 10:18 PM

Since 2000. Nothing else to do with my time but code for you guys. :D

jakethedog · 06-07-2008, 10:19 PM

in since 1996 and yeah .. making more every month .. fuck the TUBES .. fuck the obscenity laws ... fuck'em all .. I am very happy all around .. evolve or die ..

marketsmart · 06-07-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

You guys are stuck with me. Too much fun to consider quitting.

as much as i think you are annoying, i get the feeling that you live low key and bank most of your money... i think you will ride the shit to the bottom if neccessary...

one thing i have always wondered about you is what you did before adult...

baddog · 06-07-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

one thing i have always wondered about you is what you did before adult...

Telecommunications technician, settlement negotiator, paralegal.

DateDoc · 06-07-2008, 10:49 PM

Over the past 6 months I have been doing more and more mainstream and it is in an area I have a true passion for so it is fun to do the work. I will still do adult dating and dating as they pay the bills.

J. Falcon · 06-07-2008, 10:53 PM

Im gonna thug it out.

SilentKnight · 06-07-2008, 10:53 PM

Been around since '99 ('95 if you count the production years before we went to a paysite format) - so chances are slim we'll be goin' anywhere soon.

Besides, there's too much invested in what we do to pack it in.

Plus...last month was one of our best for sales in our history.

Still rockin' in '07.

Yngwie · 06-07-2008, 10:59 PM

I've had my ups and many downs (right now being one of the downs), but I have never quit and never will.

d-null · 06-07-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc

Over the past 6 months I have been doing more and more mainstream and it is in an area I have a true passion for so it is fun to do the work.

my mainstream traffic is up yet my earnings per traffic is dropping over the last year, it is a disturbing trend, I can't help but feel like it is all so fragile... soon the new adage will be "there is no money in mainstream"

of course there will always be some very high money earning sites that can just about dictate their own advertising rates, but the little people that are reliant on google and other mickey mouse ppc options are not in what I feel is a long term secure earnings situation

feel free to call me a pessimist

Barefootsies · 06-07-2008, 11:33 PM

Why would I leave?

I make more money every year, and as you can see, our ratios are not suffering.

Penny Flame · 06-07-2008, 11:50 PM

I'm never leaving. With all this 18 year old pussy running around my house....

Oh wait. There is some cock running around too.

My home is filled with running genitalia.

But I want to be around long after I quit performing. I love the whole industry, and can't imagine things differently.

(that could be due to the fact that I've been in it since 2001 and know nothing else...)

PORN OR DIE!!!!! RRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

payd2purv · 06-07-2008, 11:50 PM

Leaving adult!?

I have barely gotten started... I'm soo fucking young.. it's great

halfpint · 06-08-2008, 12:26 AM

Will def stay in adult and wont quit..ever, but I do have some bits and bobs in mainstream

marketsmart · 06-08-2008, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penny Flame

I'm never leaving. With all this 18 year old pussy running around my house....

Oh wait. There is some cock running around too.

My home is filled with running genitalia.

But I want to be around long after I quit performing. I love the whole industry, and can't imagine things differently.

(that could be due to the fact that I've been in it since 2001 and know nothing else...)

PORN OR DIE!!!!! RRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

where do i apply for a position... i like to wear tight hanes briefs and throw fire crackers around the house as well as make a mean set of flapjacks on a sunday morning...

my salary requirements are $5 per week.. additional, hot 18-21 y/o needs to be provided as i am a nymphomaniac...

kthanx... i await your counter offer...

Libertine · 06-08-2008, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67

I'm preparing to get into the biz. Is it really that bad? Someone must be doing well, because it seems like there's 800 new porn movies every fucking week.

Noticing the fact that there's a lot of competition in an industry makes you think it's a good idea to enter it?

Some Guy · 06-08-2008, 12:52 AM

Been doing this for eight years and don't plan on quitting anytime soon. Besides, who would hire me? I'd be lucky to get a job at Burger King. I can just see my application now...

"Previous employment: Pornographer"

Hmm. Application immediately thrown in trash. And even if I did get hired, I'd be leaning out the drive-thru window asking cute chicks if they'd like to make some extra money on the side and would get fired within a week. Doh!

NYRangers · 06-08-2008, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

honestly, how many people here will be leaving adult in the next six months if things don't improve?

secondly, what will you be leaving to? mainstream? off net job?

Is this your first attempt at a job in the "real world" past college, (university in other parts of the world) or high school?

Where does one come to a conclusion that life in "adult" is so bad?

Who are you and what do you do?

marketsmart · 06-08-2008, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYRangers

Is this your first attempt at a job in the "real world" past college, (university in other parts of the world) or high school?

Where does one come to a conclusion that life in "adult" is so bad?

Who are you and what do you do?

I was only asking... I was an upper level executive for a publically traded company. I have owned several of my own companies.

i have hopped in and out of adult over the past 6-8 years.. right now i am back in, so i dont think adult is bad.. i was just asking to get an idea of where peoples heads are...

as far as what i do, i trade currency and run a tube site (and yes i own every lick of content on that site other than the few sponsors videos i allow).....

so, what do you do?

JFK · 06-08-2008, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

You guys are stuck with me. Too much fun to consider quitting.

dayumn, I knew there was a catch

After Shock Media · 06-08-2008, 02:00 AM

Marketstreet the honest answer would be many of the more serious people will either diversify and or stick to adult. Then another segment which is massive will still be in the webmaster reserves playing on weekends and talking about it every so often as it brings in anywhere from some beer money to several hundred a month for them. They will also continue to throw as much free shit at the wall to see what sticks and makes them a sign up. Then there will be some who just can not devote the time anymore and will fold.

Biggest issue that keeps so many in play is that hosting can be free, content is free, the scripts are free, the work is almost done for you, so in reality it is near impossible to bottom out and assuming your close to it you can just whore youself in some contest threads and clear a hundred or two a month.

marketsmart · 06-08-2008, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Marketstreet the honest answer would be many of the more serious people will either diversify and or stick to adult. Then another segment which is massive will still be in the webmaster reserves playing on weekends and talking about it every so often as it brings in anywhere from some beer money to several hundred a month for them. They will also continue to throw as much free shit at the wall to see what sticks and makes them a sign up. Then there will be some who just can not devote the time anymore and will fold.

Biggest issue that keeps so many in play is that hosting can be free, content is free, the scripts are free, the work is almost done for you, so in reality it is near impossible to bottom out and assuming your close to it you can just whore youself in some contest threads and clear a hundred or two a month.

to clarify, i was trying to get an answer from the people that work at least 20-40 hours in adult and may not consider adult their main income source (they work primary job)...

at some point, i would have to think that working 20-40 extra hours a week in adult but only making an additional $100-$1000 a month at some point isnt worth the effort...

i was asking original question in hopes of getting an idea of how tough it is for the average person to make $ in adult these days and to determine if it is pushing them out of the industry...

so far, it seems (from the initial responses) that most are going to try to stick it out for at least another 6-12 months...

very opposite of what i was expecting, but its late on a weekend... we'll see what the weekday crowd has to say...

Tjeezers · 06-08-2008, 02:27 AM

Its porn or nothing

bloggingseo · 06-08-2008, 02:33 AM

You know, I think honestly what to do is do the job that you love the most. If you love being in this industry, you will evolve and adapt and change and figure out new ways to keep making money. If you don't really like doing it, hell, go back to college or whatever career you want to really do. You are only happy when you are doing what you love.

mightymike · 06-08-2008, 03:28 AM

I have never bet on one horse. I have spread my bizz on different things, adult is just an part of it. If it fails it would be a shame, but not a disaster.

Klen · 06-08-2008, 04:01 AM

I was thinking about moving to mainstream,but mainstream aff programs are so crippled you cant just imagine.Also everytime when i tried to earn money outside adult industry i was not earn anything i was only lose money and not small money.Conclusion:i will stick with adult biz,and with gfy :D I think even when we reach ground zero it will still be better.

CDSmith · 06-08-2008, 04:03 AM

Is the sky falling again?

That's like... 15 times in the last 10 years. :D

rvincent · 06-08-2008, 04:22 AM

"Things" (ie: income) has never been so great for me.

Klen · 06-08-2008, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Is the sky falling again?

That's like... 15 times in the last 10 years. :D

This time that could actualy happen.Also according to star trek time line soon will be wwIII

Angelina77 · 06-08-2008, 05:41 AM

Let them go then more for us !!!!!!

polish_aristocrat · 06-08-2008, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

very opposite of what i was expecting, but its late on a weekend... we'll see what the weekday crowd has to say...

those who are quitting/will quit, are doing it silently

you never see people announcing "my income has been suffering so much that I decided to quit adult and get a real office job"

they just leave quietly....

bronco67 · 06-08-2008, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

Noticing the fact that there's a lot of competition in an industry makes you think it's a good idea to enter it?

I have a unique product and high quality product in the 3D animation realm. I can truly say that when my product goes out, there will be nothing else like it on the internets. Believe me, I've looked.

Dennis Rodman · 06-08-2008, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Still rockin' in '07.

Umm, last I checked it was 2008 and we are half way through it. Place the crystal meth on the counter and please step away.

Iron Fist · 06-08-2008, 07:51 AM

When I start spending more than i'm making then i'll consider it.... otherwise, i'm permanently parked here - this is a fun hobby!

06-07-2008, 09:43 PM	#1
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	Serious Question: No Liars Please honestly, how many people here will be leaving adult in the next six months if things don't improve? secondly, what will you be leaving to? mainstream? off net job?

06-07-2008, 09:47 PM	#3
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	I think I will be sticking it out as I have yet to feel a serious pinch. Though I also am looking at some additional offline ventures for extra income. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

06-07-2008, 09:48 PM	#5
st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	I won't be going anywhere. My monthly earnings have been increasing steadily over the past 12 months. When the industry changes, change with it. On the other hand it is always good to diversify into other industries as well. __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com

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06-07-2008, 09:53 PM	#8
Tat2Jr Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sunny California Posts: 4,882	Going anywhere? Hell no. Been here since '97. Can't imagine life without lots of naked 18 year olds running around my house. If things are going that badly you're not expanding in the right directions. __________________ NICHE MONEY >> Ass Worship • Panties • Solo Teen • Pantyhose Serving up exclusive fetish sites since 1997!

06-07-2008, 09:44 PM	#2
Darkhorse Horsing Around Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: AU Posts: 5,862	Not me.....

06-07-2008, 09:48 PM	#4
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	I'm preparing to get into the biz. Is it really that bad? Someone must be doing well, because it seems like there's 800 new porn movies every fucking week.

06-07-2008, 09:53 PM	#7
Fucksakes Shit... Fuck! What the Hell? Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,567	I'm not going anywhere, been here for about 8 years and still TONS to learn and 1000's of new things to try.

06-07-2008, 09:58 PM	#10
eightmotives Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 811	My dick's too big to leave! __________________ DNPimping.com - "Pimping Domains Ain't Easy" 23868443

06-07-2008, 10:00 PM	#11
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06-07-2008, 10:02 PM	#12
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	well, so far good to hear.. i hate quitters.. stick it out until you have exhausted all options... i think its going to be tough the next 12-18 months, but i think there is money to be made by getting creative.... also, i am in agreement to supplement adult with either mainstream or offline projects...

06-07-2008, 10:05 PM	#13
s3xnetwork Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 201	I do both mainstream and adult, but even in the worst economy people still love sex and booze. This is a great time to be peddling porn and if you're not making good money at it, you're just not doing it right.

06-07-2008, 10:09 PM	#15
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Im in for the long haul, like working with my wife and being home with my dogs too much.

06-07-2008, 10:10 PM	#16
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	How many people or the percentage? I wouldn't be surprised to see at least 30% go. And that doesn't include the ones I know are doing DAMNED well in adult but are focusing on mainstream in hopes to eventually wean off adult (at least most of it). The interesting part will be the higher management positions being laid off. It's easy to hire a rep at a small salary and promises of big fat commissions, but if you're used to get getting that big fat pay day in and day out, it's going to be hard to match it elsewhere.

06-07-2008, 10:14 PM	#17
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	You guys are stuck with me. Too much fun to consider quitting.

06-07-2008, 10:18 PM	#18
Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	Since 2000. Nothing else to do with my time but code for you guys. :D __________________ ---

06-07-2008, 10:19 PM	#19
jakethedog Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 2,497	in since 1996 and yeah .. making more every month .. fuck the TUBES .. fuck the obscenity laws ... fuck'em all .. I am very happy all around .. evolve or die .. __________________ No sig .. just me

06-07-2008, 10:49 PM	#22
DateDoc Outside looking in. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride Posts: 14,243	Over the past 6 months I have been doing more and more mainstream and it is in an area I have a true passion for so it is fun to do the work. I will still do adult dating and dating as they pay the bills. __________________

06-07-2008, 10:53 PM	#23
J. Falcon www.AdultCopywriters.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 31,615	Im gonna thug it out. __________________ Adult Copywriters SEO Content for Porn Sites sales at adultcopywriters dot com

06-07-2008, 10:53 PM	#24
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Been around since '99 ('95 if you count the production years before we went to a paysite format) - so chances are slim we'll be goin' anywhere soon. Besides, there's too much invested in what we do to pack it in. Plus...last month was one of our best for sales in our history. Still rockin' in '07.

06-07-2008, 10:59 PM	#25
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	I've had my ups and many downs (right now being one of the downs), but I have never quit and never will. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

06-07-2008, 11:33 PM	#27
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Why would I leave? I make more money every year, and as you can see, our ratios are not suffering. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

06-07-2008, 11:50 PM	#28
Penny Flame Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CALI BABY!!! Posts: 729	I'm never leaving. With all this 18 year old pussy running around my house.... Oh wait. There is some cock running around too. My home is filled with running genitalia. But I want to be around long after I quit performing. I love the whole industry, and can't imagine things differently. (that could be due to the fact that I've been in it since 2001 and know nothing else...) PORN OR DIE!!!!! RRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA __________________ Penny Flame Former Studio Manager Metro Studios still owes me money

06-07-2008, 11:50 PM	#29
payd2purv Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,727	Leaving adult!? I have barely gotten started... I'm soo fucking young.. it's great __________________ Last edited by payd2purv; 06-07-2008 at 11:51 PM..

06-08-2008, 12:26 AM	#30
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06-08-2008, 12:52 AM	#33
Some Guy Affordable Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,750	Been doing this for eight years and don't plan on quitting anytime soon. Besides, who would hire me? I'd be lucky to get a job at Burger King. I can just see my application now... "Previous employment: Pornographer" Hmm. Application immediately thrown in trash. And even if I did get hired, I'd be leaning out the drive-thru window asking cute chicks if they'd like to make some extra money on the side and would get fired within a week. Doh! __________________ Need a Cheap Design? - Cheap Quality Content Available! Fuck you Michelle Malkin and Fox News

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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Marketstreet the honest answer would be many of the more serious people will either diversify and or stick to adult. Then another segment which is massive will still be in the webmaster reserves playing on weekends and talking about it every so often as it brings in anywhere from some beer money to several hundred a month for them. They will also continue to throw as much free shit at the wall to see what sticks and makes them a sign up. Then there will be some who just can not devote the time anymore and will fold. Biggest issue that keeps so many in play is that hosting can be free, content is free, the scripts are free, the work is almost done for you, so in reality it is near impossible to bottom out and assuming your close to it you can just whore youself in some contest threads and clear a hundred or two a month. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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06-08-2008, 02:33 AM	#40
bloggingseo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 1,793	You know, I think honestly what to do is do the job that you love the most. If you love being in this industry, you will evolve and adapt and change and figure out new ways to keep making money. If you don't really like doing it, hell, go back to college or whatever career you want to really do. You are only happy when you are doing what you love. __________________ Writing mainstream and adult since 2003 Hit me up ICQ 375089597

06-08-2008, 03:28 AM	#41
mightymike Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 139	I have never bet on one horse. I have spread my bizz on different things, adult is just an part of it. If it fails it would be a shame, but not a disaster.

06-08-2008, 04:01 AM	#42
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	I was thinking about moving to mainstream,but mainstream aff programs are so crippled you cant just imagine.Also everytime when i tried to earn money outside adult industry i was not earn anything i was only lose money and not small money.Conclusion:i will stick with adult biz,and with gfy :D I think even when we reach ground zero it will still be better.

06-08-2008, 04:03 AM	#43
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06-08-2008, 07:51 AM	#50
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