jimthefiend

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=19164



Apparently.

the alchemist

Damn, that's not good...

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HomeFry

Stolen content is bad. Mmmk?

TheLegacy

interesting - if completed this will hurt guerilla's chances to operate in the USA - something to watch for carefully

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Ayla_SquareTurtle

humm. I thought this was interesting.

?The U.S. federal court system allows a plaintiff to sue a foreign entity in any U.S. district,? he said. ?We don?t care where you are or who you are; if you steal from us, we?re going to get you.?

Of course stealing is wrong but it's interesting that somehow the US courts have power over people or entities in other countries. If I'm a Japanese citizen, for example, and someone in the US sues me, and I say "fuck you, I'm not showing up to court" then how can they do anything? Are they going to show up in Japan and arrest me? I don't get it.

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BVF

How did it taste? Like chicken?

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RawAlex

Ayla, The end result would be a default judgement, with no ability for that judgement to be fulfilled.

However, if any of your business touched the US, in theory the collection agents could get really nasty and make it very difficult for you to continue to work in the US.

This could get ugly.

seeric

i think someone should upload a ton of falcon stuff to rapidshare and all those other assholes. seems like they are the only ones with big enough balls to go after people. i'd love to see falcon take down rapidshare for all of us, or guba.

marketsmart

i sale stealed content... and i sale it cheps... i sale everything...

hit me up... icq 116999839

send me message that say "i loves big hot cock and yous"

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TheLegacy

all I can say is that guerilla webmasters - don't panic over this and jump ship - watch carefully what is happening and be smart rather than reacting too quickly - we still haven't heard the other side of the story yet

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marketsmart

hmmm.. and you speak for the gorillas?

i any case... i can sue anyone for anything... i never pick a side, i would like to hear gorillas side, but at the end of the day, let the courts sort it out...

Ayla_SquareTurtle

Ah, thanks for the explanation Alex.

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TheLegacy

I do not speak for guerilla at all - if you read what was said - I was commenting that I hope that webmasters don't suddenly read this report and cancel with guerilla too quickly without hearing from them first or following along the news. Far too often webmasters simply jump on a bandwagon.

Of course I am letting the courts settle this out - as with any company if something is posted, I prefer to not react to quickly. I was only giving advice.

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hollinator

Think this should be very interesting to see how all this unfolds, but I certainly agree no one should jump ship yet. They just need to play it smart and protect themselves...

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JD

oh fuck....100Mil? wow...that's a shitload of titties

marketsmart

thanks for clarifying... i never jump ship due to legal issues.. nor would i hope any affiliate would...

if it turns out that gt was using stolen content, i would not be willing to promote them....

JFK

indeed it is

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TheLegacy

and that is the wisest approach

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thumbsdepot

When I read the title I thought someone was serving Guerilla meat at internext.

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jimthefiend

Yep, pretty decent sized chunk of money.

Toni

I thought Guerilla was in Toronto, am I wrong?

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

$150,000 per image?!?



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PK-J

the problem is, anyone who uses ccbill, epoch, or any other domestic card processor has to have a domestic corp front. That means falcoln could get their cash, outta guerillas processor.. bye bye rebills..

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the Shemp

it was a "rogue designer" ...

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DarkJedi

you support content theft?

good to know.

TheLegacy

yes they are in Toronto Ontario - which if this is true - will basically shut off the american market to them

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xdcdave

Is it just me, or does it seem kinda classless to serve someone papers at a convention?

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DarkJedi

it's you.

Jace

ROFL....then when IS a good time?

should they set a schedule and make sure the time is right for the person getting served?

a convention is a perfect time, you know exactly where they will be and when

DWB

It's you. Sometimes that is the only way to pin someone down... at work, at a show... gotta get them where you can.

RawAlex

A convention is perfect. The effect of serving papers should not only be to make the legal statement, but also to being the public shaming part of the whole deal. IMHO Falcon chose exactly the right time and place to serve people that are likely not in the US all that often.

beemk

people who live on the other side of the world arent always easy to serve with papers. i think internext is the best place to do it.

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TheShark

United States Code (that's Federal Law, in case you didn't know) states "an alien may be sued in any district" 28 U.S.C. 1391(d). "The district courts shall have original jurisdiction of all civil actions where the matter in controversy exceeds the sum or value of $75,000 ... and is between ... citizens of a state and citizens or subjects of a foreign state." 28 U.S.C. 1332(a)(2). The United States has treaties with many foreign countries (including Canada and Japan) that allow citizens of one country who receives a court judgment against an entity in the other country to enter that judgment in a court of the defendant's county and get execution on the judgment in the country of the defendant. This is generally referred to as the "full faith and credit of judgments" provision in those treaties.

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jimthefiend

If you happen to read this, drop me a line sometime. My brother is an attorney. He was a deputy prosecutor for several years and now represents the county in certain family law matters, if you follow. Anyway, I've been telling him for years that when he decides to finally go into private practice he should think outside the box as far as what area to get into. I'd LOVE to put you two in contact. He's brilliant, and has done all my work related legal stuff since '99; unofficially of course.


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Wagerboy

Ironic, I just signed up there 2 days ago...This is just great.

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DTK

I can't be the only person that remembers the content theft drama with them a year or two ago????

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JFK

link............??

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JFK

link????????????

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DTK

Wow, time flies...almost 3 years ago.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth... steal+content

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bis1

It wouldn't be the first time, I've seen someone get served at Internext. I just got home so.

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