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Old 01-01-2007, 09:30 PM   #1
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:stoned Ortiz vs lidell (video)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25150029683109

Seemed staged.

Is it just me or ???
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:39 PM   #2
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I just finished watching the fight on youtube and 1 minute later, all the videos got pulled.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:40 PM   #3
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I watched it on PPV, Tito just wasn't up to it, got his eye cut up good
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:54 PM   #4
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how does it seem staged?

chuck lidell looks pretty old? How oldis that guy?

Also I thought Tito was alot bigger??
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:55 PM   #5
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I watched it on PPV, Tito just wasn't up to it, got his eye cut up good
maybe he doesnt like the sight of his own blood..

He def didnt look right . even from the beginning before he took any serious damage. It was either an act or he did too much blow the night before ( or too little )
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:02 PM   #6
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how does it seem staged?

chuck lidell looks pretty old? How oldis that guy?

Also I thought Tito was alot bigger??
tito seemed slow. maybe it was just him being cautious because he was scared to fight liddell.

I wonder how easy it would be though for someone nefarious to drug tito before the fight and place a big bet on lidell,
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:05 PM   #7
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:14 PM   #8
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Tito got hit pretty hard by Chuck's punches. That clearly defined the 3rd round.
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:16 PM   #9
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He never really seems to fully defend himself
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:43 PM   #10
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Tito is usually a lot more energetic than that.. was a pretty lame fight all and all.
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Old 01-01-2007, 11:15 PM   #12
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lol staged are you a moron? Tito just is not a match for chuck yet simple as that, Tito was scared of getting hit he was trying to play wise but didn't quite pull it off simple as that
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Old 01-01-2007, 11:32 PM   #13
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this is their 3rd fight right?
i watched their first match (i dunno when was that) and tito is no match for chuck...

what happened to randy cotoure??
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Old 01-01-2007, 11:44 PM   #14
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Old 01-01-2007, 11:46 PM   #15
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Looks Staged?
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:05 AM   #16
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Chuck was athe better fighter that night.. That's all I could say.
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haha, tito got fucking beat in round one
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:30 AM   #18
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maybe its because tito is a bitch?
everyone is over hyping this grown up crybaby with bleach blonde hair. Jenna thinks he is a loser, thats what i herd
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:14 AM   #19
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lol staged are you a moron? Tito just is not a match for chuck yet simple as that, Tito was scared of getting hit he was trying to play wise but didn't quite pull it off simple as that
actually it wasnt tito's performance i thought seemed staged .. chuck seemed to hold back on every punch.. either way i dont think that quite makes me a moron heh .. i said it seemed staged . the industry is well known to fix fights.. i was asking opinions on this one happy new years
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I don't think you understand with how much accuracy Lidell's punch come in. The guy has also a very good take down def... Stupid ufs fans were giving 51/49 as the odds, but it definitly wasn't anything like that for the real MMA enthousiasts... Every one know Lidell had tremendous chances to win this one.

You can't just run into chuck with your head down with Chuck and expect to win ... And you definitly can't really outbox him. (I'd love to see him fight Wand that'd be a good one.)

Also remember it was 2 old training partners fighting. Theses guys have lots of respect for each other. When you have no grudge, you don't come in with all you got, you just fight smart.
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i didnt see anything wrong with the fight
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Ortiz was lucky to get out of the first round. Maybe a slight quick stoppage but it was clear chuck was going to win
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chuck owned tito. period. ;)
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chuck owned tito. period. ;)
lol he won i wouldn't push that.. getting owned is getting knocked out...

tito hopped up right after the match was called off.

Chuck was certainly the better fighter, but nobody got owned except those who paid to watch it
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I'll explain a bit more why i thought it looked staged , and why i could be wrong..

First off i'll say i wanted to see tito get his ass kicked , i'm not a huge ufc watcher but i have seen both of them fight a few times.

Chuck basiclly fought like he usually does with 3 minor exceptions..
#1 at one point he let tito get up instead of stomping his face ( now this isnt totally uncommon when 1 fighter is outclassed on the ground )
#2 he threw alot of wide overhand punches , i havent watch his style but perhaps this is either his style or a certain technique he planned to use against ortiz
#3 at one point tito is grappling with him on the ground trying to put a choke on him and chuck simply stands up with tito practically clinging to his back, this is something you rarely see, it either speaks volumes about chucks strength or ortiz losing his strength..

Tito on the other hand looked nothing like he usually fights.. never so aprehensive. never so lax. he is like a rabid dog.. after the one punch to the side of the head he just seemed gutless ..

So i guess its also equally as possible i underestimate chucks power and missed the importance of chuck not being tito's "enemy" for tito's aggresiveness






or maybe tito just did a bunch of blow the night before.
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Staged? no way it was a good fight.
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actually it wasnt tito's performance i thought seemed staged .. chuck seemed to hold back on every punch.. either way i dont think that quite makes me a moron heh .. i said it seemed staged . the industry is well known to fix fights.. i was asking opinions on this one happy new years
In the post fight press conference chuck said he had a broken tenant in his hand or finger. He had it all taped up. Tito joked and said it was because his head is so big
Also rumors chuck went in with a bad acl.
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Chuck basiclly fought like he usually does with 3 minor exceptions..
#1 at one point he let tito get up instead of stomping his face ( now this isnt totally uncommon when 1 fighter is outclassed on the ground )

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Thats just Chucks style. He likes to fight standing, and for good reason. His strength is in his punches. In most fights I've seen him in he will usually let the other guy stand up, rather than try and grapple with him on the ground. He wants to knock people out, not submit them. He is generally on the ground only the amount of time it takes him to get back up.
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I'll explain a bit more why i thought it looked staged , and why i could be wrong..

First off i'll say i wanted to see tito get his ass kicked , i'm not a huge ufc watcher but i have seen both of them fight a few times.

Chuck basiclly fought like he usually does with 3 minor exceptions..
#1 at one point he let tito get up instead of stomping his face ( now this isnt totally uncommon when 1 fighter is outclassed on the ground )
#2 he threw alot of wide overhand punches , i havent watch his style but perhaps this is either his style or a certain technique he planned to use against ortiz
#3 at one point tito is grappling with him on the ground trying to put a choke on him and chuck simply stands up with tito practically clinging to his back, this is something you rarely see, it either speaks volumes about chucks strength or ortiz losing his strength..

Tito on the other hand looked nothing like he usually fights.. never so aprehensive. never so lax. he is like a rabid dog.. after the one punch to the side of the head he just seemed gutless ..

So i guess its also equally as possible i underestimate chucks power and missed the importance of chuck not being tito's "enemy" for tito's aggresiveness






or maybe tito just did a bunch of blow the night before.
1. Foot stomps are illegal in the UFC(are in pride), Chuck rarely stays on the ground with some one. Alot say he's a better wrestler then Tito, but Chuck like to stay standing.

2. That's Chuck's style, always has been

3. Chuck is famous for his ability to get up when taken down.
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I don't think you understand with how much accuracy Lidell's punch come in. The guy has also a very good take down def... Stupid ufs fans were giving 51/49 as the odds, but it definitly wasn't anything like that for the real MMA enthousiasts... Every one know Lidell had tremendous chances to win this one.

You can't just run into chuck with your head down with Chuck and expect to win ... And you definitly can't really outbox him. (I'd love to see him fight Wand that'd be a good one.)

Also remember it was 2 old training partners fighting. Theses guys have lots of respect for each other. When you have no grudge, you don't come in with all you got, you just fight smart.
Yeah it was predictable
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