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JFK · 06-23-2006, 10:11 AM

Informant, so he can make himself and the Fight on Terror look good.

"their only "connection" with al-Qaeda appears to have been the fact that a government informant who had infiltrated their ranks had apparently convinced the alleged conspirators that he was, in fact, a Qaeda operative."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/23/miami.raids/index.html

Gonzales said there never was an immediate threat.

Here is a TIME article

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...207412,00.html

"The Miami seven, according to reports thus far, seemed to have been doing the exact opposite, behaving more like a Hollywood B-movie version of terrorists than the real thing."

I wonder how many of threats are real and how many are manufactured by overly eager gov plants?

Deputy Chief Command · 06-23-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

I wonder how many of threats are real and how many are manufactured by overly eager gov plants?

well, fact is that I am pretty sure that there are terrorist , they are real

fact also is that they really want to blow up buildings on US soil

and one last fact for ya, it did not happen again since 2001

so , with these facts ? whats your conclusion ?

JFK · 06-23-2006, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

well, fact is that I am pretty sure that there are terrorist , they are real

fact also is that they really want to blow up buildings on US soil

and one last fact for ya, it did not happen again since 2001

so , with these facts ? whats your conclusion ?

read the whole thing............its ALL ALLEGED... To me it sounds like they were instigated by the informant and No I dont agree with Terror or blowing things up

Tdog · 06-23-2006, 10:21 AM

Isnt Al Qeada and the CIA one in the same ??

Furious_Male · 06-23-2006, 10:24 AM

They could try to argue entrapment, but from what I understand they handed over plenty of video and photo footage including audio of targets they wanted to hit.

That will bury them in court.

BusterBunny · 06-23-2006, 10:25 AM

don't matter to me if they thought of the whole thing themselves, or if they were set up...they agreed to the plan and should be dealt with....

Webby · 06-23-2006, 10:43 AM

When an informant starts being party to "chat", there is a danger it will start following apart.

Love this quote BTW:

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Batiste allegedly provided the informant "with a list of shoe sizes for the purchase of military boots for his 'soldiers,'" Pistole said.

Damn.. that's incriminating

Does the "informant" not know whether he was provided with a list or not?? What's the allegedly stuff? Does the list exist or not??

pr0 · 06-23-2006, 10:57 AM

It's horseshit, no ones made a move since 01'....if they had the capability, they would have already.

Fear is the new commodity in washington.

Deputy Chief Command · 06-23-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

read the whole thing............its ALL ALLEGED... To me it sounds like they were instigated by the informant and No I dont agree with Terror or blowing things up

I was only replying to your conclusion ,

in my eyes your conclusion is not a good one , / not a necesar one

the thing is , even if them alone would have never pushed forward , them appearantly would have gone trough if pushed by the right person

persons that can be pushed into bombing buildings are just as dangerous as people who would do it without any pushing ....

Deputy Chief Command · 06-23-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

It's horseshit, no ones made a move since 01'....if they had the capability, they would have already.

Fear is the new commodity in washington.

it is and it is not,

yes it is being used when suited well

BUT

no it is not true that there are no real threats, , the real threat is people like you who think the fight is over and all threats are made up by the gov to control the masses ...

the more people that start thinking like you do , the easyier it will get for anyone with terrorist ambition to make those ambitions reality . ..

JFK · 06-23-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

it is and it is not,

yes it is being used when suited well

BUT

no it is not true that there are no real threats, , the real threat is people like you who think the fight is over and all threats are made up by the gov to control the masses ...

the more people that start thinking like you do , the easyier it will get for anyone with terrorist ambition to make those ambitions reality . ..

It's the boy who cried wolf syndrome, you can only do it so many times or the people will stop listening

Phoenix · 06-23-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tdog

Isnt Al Qeada and the CIA one in the same ??

pretty much so yes

QuaWee · 06-23-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tdog

Isnt Al Qeada and the CIA one in the same ??

The government is knocking on your door

12clicks · 06-23-2006, 11:40 AM

yeah, its all made up.
there's no such thing as muslim terrorists, its all a government plot.
Same with the 20 or so other countries that have been bombed. its all fake. have you ever talked to anyone who's been bombed?
just like the moon landing. Hollywood!

Phoenix · 06-23-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

yeah, its all made up.
there's no such thing as muslim terrorists, its all a government plot.
Same with the 20 or so other countries that have been bombed. its all fake. have you ever talked to anyone who's been bombed?
just like the moon landing. Hollywood!

the moon landing was kubrick....he filmed the whole thing...while i do believe they went there....they didnt get any footage as their cameras were not treated for space radiation..they wouldnto h ave had one piece of filme evidence.

I hope they went..or we are a truly pathetic species.

You of all people should understand the puppet strings going on in the governement...fuck explain how half the so called 9/11 terrorists are alive and well..hell one even works for an airline.

czarina · 06-23-2006, 11:43 AM

some people are just moronic. How stupid!

JFK · 06-23-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

yeah, its all made up.
there's no such thing as muslim terrorists, its all a government plot.
Same with the 20 or so other countries that have been bombed. its all fake. have you ever talked to anyone who's been bombed?
just like the moon landing. Hollywood!

I did NOT say its all made up, I was commenting about this particular case

pornguy · 06-23-2006, 11:53 AM

I think that they had talked some shit, and the informant made up the rest.

Lazonby · 06-23-2006, 12:06 PM

Lol, it's another one of those 'it's cool to hate the government and never believe a single word they tell us' threads again. RIGHT ON!!!!!!!

Anyway, what is al Qaeda?

1. An organisation which issues badges to all it's members so that they can be easily identified?

2. An ideology bent on subjugating the entire world under the rule of a Caliph, with few rights for women and no rights for Christians, Jews, atheists, Hindus or homosexuals (or pornographers)?

3. Something which people who know nothing about it like to talk about?

scottybuzz · 06-23-2006, 12:15 PM

dam this is gay

bdld · 06-23-2006, 01:40 PM

glad they caught the bastards, its good to see the govt doing their job.

PaulB IYP · 06-23-2006, 01:46 PM

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QuaWee · 06-23-2006, 02:10 PM

12clicks watches too much Fox News

Phoenix · 06-23-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

12clicks watches too much Fox News

whil i respect his accomplishments..i cant help think he is the poster boy for people who live with their head in the sand....trust your government...lol

dynastoned · 06-23-2006, 02:15 PM

Propaganda

giftedtwisted · 06-23-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny

don't matter to me if they thought of the whole thing themselves, or if they were set up...they agreed to the plan and should be dealt with....

Amen to that

JFK · 06-23-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

Lol, it's another one of those 'it's cool to hate the government and never believe a single word they tell us' threads again. RIGHT ON!!!!!!!

Anyway, what is al Qaeda?

1. An organisation which issues badges to all it's members so that they can be easily identified?

2. An ideology bent on subjugating the entire world under the rule of a Caliph, with few rights for women and no rights for Christians, Jews, atheists, Hindus or homosexuals (or pornographers)?

3. Something which people who know nothing about it like to talk about?

Lol, its another one of those cool reply's by someone who believes everything his government feeds him

RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!

12clicks · 06-23-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

I wonder how many of threats are real and how many are manufactured by overly eager gov plants?

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Originally Posted by JFK

I did NOT say its all made up, I was commenting about this particular case

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Originally Posted by JFK

Lol, its another one of those cool reply's by someone who believes everything his government feeds him

now you know I love you but how the hell do you live in a world where there are countless muslim terrorist attacks in many many countries and your first thought is that the US is making up this case?
to what end?

JFK · 06-23-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

now you know I love you but how the hell do you live in a world where there are countless muslim terrorist attacks in many many countries and your first thought is that the US is making up this case?
to what end?

Sorry Man, I love ya as well, but when I read the Available info, it just didnt seem as these idiots could carry off anything as vile as a terrorist attack.They look like halfwits bargaining for shoes and other shit, while marching outside their compound wearing turbans "playing" terrorists. Very clandestine I'm sure you agree

"Neighbors said the men, who wore turbans, caused no problems but seemed odd. (Watch as neighbors in the projects react to the arrests -- 1:49)

"All you could do was just see their eyes. They had their whole head wrapped up. Just the eyes showing. And they were standing guard -- one here, one there -- like soldiers. Very quiet," one woman said.

Plantain said what made them suspicious is the training they did.

"They practiced martial arts," he said. "They didn't have guns, bombs and have no money funding."

its taken from here
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/06/23...eax/index.html
Now If you were to do something as stupid and hideous as Blowing up the Tower in Chicago, would you advertise your presence in such manner ?

12clicks · 06-24-2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Sorry Man, I love ya as well, but when I read the Available info, it just didnt seem as these idiots could carry off anything as vile as a terrorist attack.They look like halfwits bargaining for shoes and other shit, while marching outside their compound wearing turbans "playing" terrorists. Very clandestine I'm sure you agree

"Neighbors said the men, who wore turbans, caused no problems but seemed odd. (Watch as neighbors in the projects react to the arrests -- 1:49)

"All you could do was just see their eyes. They had their whole head wrapped up. Just the eyes showing. And they were standing guard -- one here, one there -- like soldiers. Very quiet," one woman said.

Plantain said what made them suspicious is the training they did.

"They practiced martial arts," he said. "They didn't have guns, bombs and have no money funding."

its taken from here
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/06/23...eax/index.html
Now If you were to do something as stupid and hideous as Blowing up the Tower in Chicago, would you advertise your presence in such manner ?

here's where we disagree, if your stupid enough to be muslim and talk about blowing up buildings, I want you in prison for 20 years to see how foolish an idea that is.

from your post, it sounds like you only want the police arresting terrorists as they are lighting the fuss to a bomb. I want the police jailing everyone with the THOUGHT of committing terror. There's really no need to give this trash the benefit of the doubt.

mardigras · 06-24-2006, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

here's where we disagree, if your stupid enough to be muslim and talk about blowing up buildings, I want you in prison for 20 years to see how foolish an idea that is.

So, do you think non-muslims who talk about blowing up buildings should get a different sentence?

12clicks · 06-24-2006, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

So, do you think non-muslims who talk about blowing up buildings should get a different sentence?

nope. let me know when you find them.

biftek · 06-24-2006, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

here's where we disagree, if your stupid enough to be muslim and talk about blowing up buildings, I want you in prison for 20 years to see how foolish an idea that is.

from your post, it sounds like you only want the police arresting terrorists as they are lighting the fuss to a bomb. I want the police jailing everyone with the THOUGHT of committing terror. There's really no need to give this trash the benefit of the doubt.

kinda funny don't you think ?
over in iraq fighting for your freedom , but yet because a person uses his freedom of speech and thought to think up such things as bombing a building you want to lock them up ,... why do you say muslim , what about Timothy McVeigh , he wasn't muslim but parked a bombed,

2HousePlague · 06-24-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by biftek

kinda funny don't you think ?
over in iraq fighting for your freedom , but yet because a person uses his freedom of speech and thought to think up such things as bombing a building you want to lock them up ,... why do you say muslim , what about Timothy McVeigh , he wasn't muslim but parked a bombed,

Yeah, and that's a helluva lot more than just thinking --

Kill repulsive mongrels, bad, bad --

2hp

David! · 06-24-2006, 07:55 AM

7 retards wanted to blow up some buildings.
The 7 retards do not have any money.
How hard do you think is it to sell dope in Miami?
How difficult would it have been for them to go to Walmart, buy a few shot gun with the few hundreds they made selling dope?
What would have happened when the 7 retards would have realized they were not going to blow up any buildings? How about they went on a shooting rampage so that they can get their virgins?
I see the usual suspects here are too full of hatred for the US and GWB to even think right, how pathetic.

12clicks · 06-24-2006, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by biftek

kinda funny don't you think ?
over in iraq fighting for your freedom , but yet because a person uses his freedom of speech and thought to think up such things as bombing a building you want to lock them up ,... why do you say muslim , what about Timothy McVeigh , he wasn't muslim but parked a bombed,

I say muslim because its these scum who are currently bombing innocent people in countries all over the world.

as far as McVeigh, I leave it to rabble like yourself to bring up the one terror act not committed by a muslim as if it had any bearing on this subject.
Do you really have a point when your only example is over 10 years old?
go back on the porch

mardigras · 06-24-2006, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

as far as McVeigh, I leave it to rabble like yourself to bring up the one terror act not committed by a muslim as if it had any bearing on this subject.
Do you really have a point when your only example is over 10 years old?

Eric Harris and Dylan Kliebold built and detonated a number of pipe bombs. They talked for several years about blowing up buildings. Go to Google and do a search for bomb -iraq and you'll find a number of recent cases where people are being charged/sentenced for bomb threats, planting bombs or having the material, including an 11 year old girl in PA.

12clicks · 06-24-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Eric Harris and Dylan Kliebold built and detonated a number of pipe bombs. They talked for several years about blowing up buildings. Go to Google and do a search for bomb -iraq and you'll find a number of recent cases where people are being charged/sentenced for bomb threats, planting bombs or having the material, including an 11 year old girl in PA.

Thanks for making my point.
Talk about blowing up buildings, go to jail. the end.
wanna explain your point?

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