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LoveAsianChicks · 05-11-2002, 05:06 AM

I wanted to give BigPlayers a decent try because $50 a signup would add up fast.
Conversion rates were real crappy for me. 1:2438 and I don't blindlink or anything.

I decided to e-mail 3 people who submitted a gallery using a BigPlayers ad, and basically asked what their conversions were like, do they submit to many tgps, and I asked if the sponsor they used before converted better.

All 3 replied with pretty much the same info:

1:2300
1:1980
1:3742

All 3 webmasters said they submit to at least 50 TGPs daily.

All 3 claimed their other sponsors are converting better with tgp traffic when using similar advertising methods.

On another thread at GFY, the "FLY" mentioned sending some traffic and getting jackshit in return.

Is BigPlayers shaving or their sites just don't convert very well?
I'm sure a few are going to reply saying they get 1:50 signup ratio then spam their referral code, but I'm looking for serious replies.

Is it doing well for you?

vidsweb · 05-11-2002, 05:09 AM

Just look at their sites....they suck ass!

Their tours are shitty. Their sites look like they are 2-3 years old.

Shitty content + Boring tours = No sales

GTS Mark · 05-11-2002, 08:57 AM

I think I remember someone also posting that the signup cost to the customer was $49.99. That is a pretty hard one to sell....

Sure $19.99 or $29.99 a month but $49.99 is pretty steep. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

DH

TDF · 05-11-2002, 09:02 AM

from what i see they offer a 3 day trial for 2.95, 1 week for 9.95 and a year for 99.95.I dont see a monthly option.Also if they say they pay $50 on trials shouldnt the webmaster be making money on such a cheap trial?

amatrus · 05-11-2002, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I think I remember someone also posting that the signup cost to the customer was $49.99. That is a pretty hard one to sell....

Sure $19.99 or $29.99 a month but $49.99 is pretty steep. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

DH

Wanted to post the same until I wrote your post.
They pay so much 'cause they charge 50$....

Steve · 05-11-2002, 09:52 AM

you know, people tried to warn you on the earlier thread

but you suckers will bend over and supply the KY if anyone whispers $50/sale

Terenzo · 05-11-2002, 10:00 AM

get into a deal that sounds realistic ... and you will make decent money ... how much money would *you* be willing to pay for a trial signup to your paysite???

alias · 05-11-2002, 10:04 AM

fuck big players house!

Brad Mitchell · 05-11-2002, 10:22 AM

I haven't used Big Players so I can't speak to their conversions, etc. However, I would say that their tours and designs look just as good as anyone elses. Why no sales? I have no idea. But, when you start signing up for programs that pay $50 for a trial membership you have to expect that you're not going to be converting in really high numbers.

I suggest picking more middle of the road sponsors with revenue shares or per sign up amounts that seem reasonable. As a rule of thumb things that seem too good to be true usually are. I would also note that every program that has such a high per signup program ALWAYS whores out the exit traffic - that's why the big payout.

Forget what you hear about their retention, most paysites only retain about 20-35% of their trial signups into a renewal. Do the math yourself and you'll see how dependant they are on making sales with the exit traffic.

Most efforts to make a quick buck will always fail. I recommend patronizing affiliate programs that don't fuck the surfer. When you join a program you SHOULD be concerned about what the monthly renewals are... Check out their tours yourself and see how many hide the terms and conditions OR the renewal amount for that matter.

Most of you probably don't think like I do. However, I always recommend using affiliate programs where you believe in the product and pricing.

Cheers!

Brad

pipp · 05-11-2002, 10:27 AM

Big players offer a 3 day free trail if Im not mistaking. This trial renews at $49,95 every 30 days. And they are paying 50$ pr active member right? Surfers are probably scared shitless and canceling their free trials as the same rate as my mad monkey hitbot team in the basement are clicking

Brad Mitchell · 05-11-2002, 10:37 AM

Alot of the people buying memberships on the web buy LOTS of memberships. They're getting smarter because they've been fucked so many times. Someone once told me that some of these guys average 7 website subscriptions.

Brad

aadam · 05-11-2002, 12:54 PM

For me they convert around 1:1300, but I got much more hits a day in comparison with other sponsors. I guess, they count your hits more exactly. Lastly it´s important, what you make out of the traffic of your site, not the conversion ratio. For me it´s one of the five or six good sponsors rotating on my hardcore sites.
@pipp - So far I know, they pay 50$ for the free trial, not necessary the active member, but the free trial is only accessable by online check for US and Canadian citizens.

Theo · 05-11-2002, 01:17 PM

great,many webmasters use them but they dont know for what kind of signup they get paid and how much the surfer is charged.

05-11-2002, 05:06 AM	#1
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	BigPlayers - converting bad I wanted to give BigPlayers a decent try because $50 a signup would add up fast. Conversion rates were real crappy for me. 1:2438 and I don't blindlink or anything. I decided to e-mail 3 people who submitted a gallery using a BigPlayers ad, and basically asked what their conversions were like, do they submit to many tgps, and I asked if the sponsor they used before converted better. All 3 replied with pretty much the same info: 1:2300 1:1980 1:3742 All 3 webmasters said they submit to at least 50 TGPs daily. All 3 claimed their other sponsors are converting better with tgp traffic when using similar advertising methods. On another thread at GFY, the "FLY" mentioned sending some traffic and getting jackshit in return. Is BigPlayers shaving or their sites just don't convert very well? I'm sure a few are going to reply saying they get 1:50 signup ratio then spam their referral code, but I'm looking for serious replies. Is it doing well for you? Last edited by LoveAsianChicks; 05-11-2002 at 05:07 AM..

05-11-2002, 05:09 AM	#2
vidsweb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pornland Posts: 698	Just look at their sites....they suck ass! Their tours are shitty. Their sites look like they are 2-3 years old. Shitty content + Boring tours = No sales __________________ Just give'r

05-11-2002, 09:02 AM	#4
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	from what i see they offer a 3 day trial for 2.95, 1 week for 9.95 and a year for 99.95.I dont see a monthly option.Also if they say they pay $50 on trials shouldnt the webmaster be making money on such a cheap trial? __________________ Sig heil Last edited by toodamnfli; 05-11-2002 at 09:07 AM..

05-11-2002, 10:00 AM	#7
Terenzo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 971	get into a deal that sounds realistic ... and you will make decent money ... how much money would you be willing to pay for a trial signup to your paysite??? __________________ Signature Spot - USD 5000 / month

05-11-2002, 10:04 AM	#8
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	fuck big players house! __________________ https://porncorporation.com

05-11-2002, 08:57 AM	#3
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	I think I remember someone also posting that the signup cost to the customer was $49.99. That is a pretty hard one to sell.... Sure $19.99 or $29.99 a month but $49.99 is pretty steep. Correct me if I'm wrong on this. DH

05-11-2002, 09:52 AM	#6
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	you know, people tried to warn you on the earlier thread but you suckers will bend over and supply the KY if anyone whispers $50/sale

05-11-2002, 10:22 AM	#9
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	I haven't used Big Players so I can't speak to their conversions, etc. However, I would say that their tours and designs look just as good as anyone elses. Why no sales? I have no idea. But, when you start signing up for programs that pay $50 for a trial membership you have to expect that you're not going to be converting in really high numbers. I suggest picking more middle of the road sponsors with revenue shares or per sign up amounts that seem reasonable. As a rule of thumb things that seem too good to be true usually are. I would also note that every program that has such a high per signup program ALWAYS whores out the exit traffic - that's why the big payout. Forget what you hear about their retention, most paysites only retain about 20-35% of their trial signups into a renewal. Do the math yourself and you'll see how dependant they are on making sales with the exit traffic. Most efforts to make a quick buck will always fail. I recommend patronizing affiliate programs that don't fuck the surfer. When you join a program you SHOULD be concerned about what the monthly renewals are... Check out their tours yourself and see how many hide the terms and conditions OR the renewal amount for that matter. Most of you probably don't think like I do. However, I always recommend using affiliate programs where you believe in the product and pricing. Cheers! Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

05-11-2002, 10:27 AM	#10
pipp Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Where the sun don't shine Posts: 1,185	Big players offer a 3 day free trail if Im not mistaking. This trial renews at $49,95 every 30 days. And they are paying 50$ pr active member right? Surfers are probably scared shitless and canceling their free trials as the same rate as my mad monkey hitbot team in the basement are clicking

05-11-2002, 10:37 AM	#11
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Alot of the people buying memberships on the web buy LOTS of memberships. They're getting smarter because they've been fucked so many times. Someone once told me that some of these guys average 7 website subscriptions. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

05-11-2002, 12:54 PM	#12
aadam Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 1	For me they convert around 1:1300, but I got much more hits a day in comparison with other sponsors. I guess, they count your hits more exactly. Lastly it´s important, what you make out of the traffic of your site, not the conversion ratio. For me it´s one of the five or six good sponsors rotating on my hardcore sites. @pipp - So far I know, they pay 50$ for the free trial, not necessary the active member, but the free trial is only accessable by online check for US and Canadian citizens. __________________ <a href="http://www.bigplayers.com/bp.php?player=240366">Big Players - 50$ for a free signup</a> Last edited by aadam; 05-11-2002 at 01:04 PM..

05-11-2002, 01:17 PM	#13
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	great,many webmasters use them but they dont know for what kind of signup they get paid and how much the surfer is charged.