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bigXvids · 05-07-2002, 09:10 PM

Hey

I run a movie site, http://www.bigxvids.com which gets around 40-50k of traffic

The prob is though, that I keep having trouble turning the damn surfers into signups

Was wondering if anyone could take a quick look at my site and maybe suggest a new advertising method or sponsor, coz I really am stuck atm

Thanks

boneprone · 05-07-2002, 09:12 PM

Signups?

Amputate Your Head · 05-07-2002, 09:13 PM

looks good.... stick with what you got... hang in there...

OneBallJohn · 05-07-2002, 09:14 PM

is this what is known as spam?

boneprone · 05-07-2002, 09:16 PM

hes not really spaming anything though.
Im tyring to figure out how he gets anysignups at all.

Seems like a huge mish mash of misleading confusion

boneprone · 05-07-2002, 09:16 PM

i got a head ache. I cant do this anymore

bigXvids · 05-07-2002, 09:18 PM

i'm not spamming, only asking you boys (and girls) for advice

just having a tough time making money off my site

boneprone- what do ya find so confusing and what do u reckon i should do?

boneprone · 05-07-2002, 09:18 PM

Make your sponsoros more visible.
Use different programs.

If you need some sponsors you can icq me, i know of some that would do well.

Im not gunna spam em here, but if you are intrested you can inquire.

icq 66883099

boneprone · 05-07-2002, 09:19 PM

where are your sponsors at?
What are you pushing?

sinomatic · 05-07-2002, 09:23 PM

Dude check out www.fuckingfreemovies.com , same concept as yours but they get about 5x more traffic a day. Get some people to advertise on your site, I think they charge like $250 a week for a reg banner. I think that you should be making around 4k easy with just adds on your site. But that's just my

boneprone · 05-07-2002, 09:23 PM

your design and layout looks fine, but im thinking you need to push a sale harder somehow.

use movie type sites to promote.

I think platnium bucks has some site you could try that is designed to look like a total movie type site. THat may work.

DrewKole · 05-07-2002, 09:24 PM

What boneprone said... right now, you're using the low-end CJ TGP technique, tons of perm blind links, all you're doin right now is tradin traffic around, and using a FNP site?

What I'd do? Put a SMALLER toplist than the one in the middle, at the top, with your 15-20 best trades.

Dont put as many as ya have, it'll just reduce your bookmarkers.

Swap out the right blind links, for some banners, maybe some juicy movie text or even free samples, and a big ol' vertical ad there... make sure ya have some text along with it if you use a banner.

Just beware, you'll drop your traffic if you rely heavily on those thumbs, if you can monitor it, change the top few and see how it affects your trades.

Let us know how it goes, good looking site tho... and thanks for stoppin by. =)

Krome · 05-07-2002, 09:26 PM

Your site is popular because it is so hard to get to the part where you say to the surfer "listen fuck face get your credit card out"..shove a banner directly under your main title logo.. even better still make a warning page like this one:
Warning Page Example

Krome · 05-07-2002, 09:29 PM

fuck it we have just all been nice to someone asking for advice...
ok do this format c: and send your girl around to boneprone's house...

bigXvids · 05-07-2002, 09:29 PM

sinomatic - yeah i was actually thinking of doing that before, thanks for reminding me

any idea where i might find interested webmasters?

boneprone - i'll check em out... added you to my icq list btw, waiting for authorization

sinomatic · 05-07-2002, 09:29 PM

If you want a really good converting movies sponsor check this one out http://www.vividvip.com/partners/1013689/vip/
I know it's a bit of spam, but they convert fairly well for me good days its 1:300, average days it's around 1:450-650

DrewKole · 05-07-2002, 09:31 PM

Dependin on what you'd charge for the spot, I may be interested big. =)

Also, while everyone is here... anyone know where I can get licensed movie content from?

I may try my hand at a movie tgp and ab site.

sinomatic · 05-07-2002, 09:32 PM

Um, you should really check out some of the well known movie sites and see what they have for banners. I would probably just contact those companies that advertise, show them that I have the traffic that they can utilize and maybe give them some kind of a competitive rate which beats the competition. But that's just my

boneprone · 05-07-2002, 09:34 PM

stay the FUCK away from vivid.
The name sells itself.
NOT!

IT fucking sucks. BAD!

sinomatic · 05-07-2002, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrewKole
Dependin on what you'd charge for the spot, I may be interested big. =)

Also, while everyone is here... anyone know where I can get licensed movie content from?

I may try my hand at a movie tgp and ab site.

Check this one out, it might be what you need http://www.setgo.com/content/videofeeds.html
But that's just my

bigXvids · 05-07-2002, 09:35 PM

DrewKole - if you're interested, icq me on 6564713 and maybe we can work sumin out

btw, thanks for all the input ppl, never thought i'd get so many replies this fast

sinomatic · 05-07-2002, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
stay the FUCK away from vivid.
The name sells itself.
NOT!

IT fucking sucks. BAD!

I guess, but if you sell it with conjuction with something else, like a video store or a toy store, I've found that they convert fairly well. But I just started to use them, lexxx advised me against it but so far so good. I have noticed some drop off in sales lately though. But the first 4 months were great

DrewKole · 05-07-2002, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinomatic

Check this one out, it might be what you need http://www.setgo.com/content/videofeeds.html
But that's just my

Thanks a bunch bud.

Krome · 05-07-2002, 09:37 PM

I currently owe Vivid $300 or so due to charge backs...they used to be great at making you money now they are great at making you owe them!!

sinomatic · 05-07-2002, 09:41 PM

You mean they exually asked you to give them back $300? what do you mean chargebacks. Were the cards used fraudulently?

playa · 05-07-2002, 09:46 PM

place really good thumbs on the top part of your site and have them open to really nice sales page,,,,

then take the top 10 gallery listings for yourself,,, or better yet list only your own galleries,,,,

50k site then i assume you get like 250,000 out clicks,,
and if you using 75% for galleries than that means you'll get
187,500 page views to your galleries then the rest for your trades,,,,,

so out of 187,500 page views to your galleries say 3% click to your sponsers then that'll make 5625 clicks to your sponsers,,,
with that in mine say your converting 1 out 650 (average)
that'll approximately get you like 8 sign ups a day!!!

8X35=$280 a day!!!!

truely amazing you will be a rich man

disclaimer,,,,fine print
Data and information is provided for informational purposes only, and is only intended work in theory. If doesn't work out then don't get mad cuz chances are it wasn't gonna work anyways

Krome · 05-07-2002, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinomatic
You mean they exually asked you to give them back $300? what do you mean chargebacks. Were the cards used fraudulently?

I do not know what happened, they have not asked me for the money back but when I check my stats I owe them money..I have -13 or so sign ups...

sinomatic · 05-07-2002, 09:56 PM

Yeh, I think I heard that in my Theory of Macro Econ last night.
true so so true. 35 or 40 x 8 + around 4k a month for ads = you are in business baby.

bigXvids · 05-07-2002, 09:58 PM

lol playa, i wish mate

my main sponsor on the site, volumebrokers, is converting at around 1:5000. all the links with a "hot" next to em lead to a volumebrokers sales page

it's not surprising tho, since most of the ppl that click on these links are thinking they're going to a gallery page with free movies

if i converted at 1:600 i'd be making crazy cash eheh

just gotta find another way to promote i guess :/

sinomatic · 05-07-2002, 10:02 PM

I'm telling you man , with that kind of traffic you have really good potential. Either to make money on ads or sponsors or both. Just try different combos. But first visit some of the most successful movie sites and see what they got.

hyper · 05-07-2002, 10:10 PM

it's too neat.

i just have to keep my eye to the left side of the page for free shit

try ungrouping all of the gallery links like this.

put maybe 6 or 8 galleries at first, (charge for those spots)
why? because you want to get the surfer warmed up. he will probably buy more often either thru the gallery page or your sponsor you place underneath the top spots
then the rest of the galleries.

Exxxotica · 05-07-2002, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinomatic
You mean they exually asked you to give them back $300? what do you mean chargebacks. Were the cards used fraudulently?

Time for my all favorite pic

<img src="http://www.exxxotica.net/stuff/vivid.jpg">

05-07-2002, 09:10 PM	#1
bigXvids Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 46	need a bitta advice Hey I run a movie site, http://www.bigxvids.com which gets around 40-50k of traffic The prob is though, that I keep having trouble turning the damn surfers into signups Was wondering if anyone could take a quick look at my site and maybe suggest a new advertising method or sponsor, coz I really am stuck atm Thanks

05-07-2002, 09:12 PM	#2
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Signups? __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

05-07-2002, 09:16 PM	#5
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	hes not really spaming anything though. Im tyring to figure out how he gets anysignups at all. Seems like a huge mish mash of misleading confusion __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

05-07-2002, 09:16 PM	#6
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	i got a head ache. I cant do this anymore __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

05-07-2002, 09:18 PM	#8
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Make your sponsoros more visible. Use different programs. If you need some sponsors you can icq me, i know of some that would do well. Im not gunna spam em here, but if you are intrested you can inquire. icq 66883099 __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

05-07-2002, 09:13 PM	#3
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	looks good.... stick with what you got... hang in there...

05-07-2002, 09:14 PM	#4
OneBallJohn Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Inside Jimbo's head. Posts: 262	is this what is known as spam?

05-07-2002, 09:19 PM	#9
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	where are your sponsors at? What are you pushing? __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

05-07-2002, 09:23 PM	#10
sinomatic Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 149	Dude check out www.fuckingfreemovies.com , same concept as yours but they get about 5x more traffic a day. Get some people to advertise on your site, I think they charge like $250 a week for a reg banner. I think that you should be making around 4k easy with just adds on your site. But that's just my

05-07-2002, 09:24 PM	#12
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	What boneprone said... right now, you're using the low-end CJ TGP technique, tons of perm blind links, all you're doin right now is tradin traffic around, and using a FNP site? What I'd do? Put a SMALLER toplist than the one in the middle, at the top, with your 15-20 best trades. Dont put as many as ya have, it'll just reduce your bookmarkers. Swap out the right blind links, for some banners, maybe some juicy movie text or even free samples, and a big ol' vertical ad there... make sure ya have some text along with it if you use a banner. Just beware, you'll drop your traffic if you rely heavily on those thumbs, if you can monitor it, change the top few and see how it affects your trades. Let us know how it goes, good looking site tho... and thanks for stoppin by. =)

05-07-2002, 09:26 PM	#13
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Your site is popular because it is so hard to get to the part where you say to the surfer "listen fuck face get your credit card out"..shove a banner directly under your main title logo.. even better still make a warning page like this one: Warning Page Example

05-07-2002, 09:29 PM	#14
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	fuck it we have just all been nice to someone asking for advice... ok do this format c: and send your girl around to boneprone's house...

05-07-2002, 09:31 PM	#17
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Dependin on what you'd charge for the spot, I may be interested big. =) Also, while everyone is here... anyone know where I can get licensed movie content from? I may try my hand at a movie tgp and ab site.

05-07-2002, 09:32 PM	#18
sinomatic Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 149	Um, you should really check out some of the well known movie sites and see what they have for banners. I would probably just contact those companies that advertise, show them that I have the traffic that they can utilize and maybe give them some kind of a competitive rate which beats the competition. But that's just my

05-07-2002, 09:34 PM	#19
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	stay the FUCK away from vivid. The name sells itself. NOT! IT fucking sucks. BAD! __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

05-07-2002, 09:35 PM	#21
bigXvids Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 46	DrewKole - if you're interested, icq me on 6564713 and maybe we can work sumin out btw, thanks for all the input ppl, never thought i'd get so many replies this fast

05-07-2002, 09:37 PM	#24
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	I currently owe Vivid $300 or so due to charge backs...they used to be great at making you money now they are great at making you owe them!!

05-07-2002, 09:41 PM	#25
sinomatic Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 149	You mean they exually asked you to give them back $300? what do you mean chargebacks. Were the cards used fraudulently?

05-07-2002, 09:46 PM	#26
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	place really good thumbs on the top part of your site and have them open to really nice sales page,,,, then take the top 10 gallery listings for yourself,,, or better yet list only your own galleries,,,, 50k site then i assume you get like 250,000 out clicks,, and if you using 75% for galleries than that means you'll get 187,500 page views to your galleries then the rest for your trades,,,,, so out of 187,500 page views to your galleries say 3% click to your sponsers then that'll make 5625 clicks to your sponsers,,, with that in mine say your converting 1 out 650 (average) that'll approximately get you like 8 sign ups a day!!! 8X35=$280 a day!!!! truely amazing you will be a rich man disclaimer,,,,fine print Data and information is provided for informational purposes only, and is only intended work in theory. If doesn't work out then don't get mad cuz chances are it wasn't gonna work anyways

05-07-2002, 09:56 PM	#28
sinomatic Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 149	Yeh, I think I heard that in my Theory of Macro Econ last night. true so so true. 35 or 40 x 8 + around 4k a month for ads = you are in business baby.

05-07-2002, 09:58 PM	#29
bigXvids Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 46	lol playa, i wish mate my main sponsor on the site, volumebrokers, is converting at around 1:5000. all the links with a "hot" next to em lead to a volumebrokers sales page it's not surprising tho, since most of the ppl that click on these links are thinking they're going to a gallery page with free movies if i converted at 1:600 i'd be making crazy cash eheh just gotta find another way to promote i guess :/

05-07-2002, 10:02 PM	#30
sinomatic Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 149	I'm telling you man , with that kind of traffic you have really good potential. Either to make money on ads or sponsors or both. Just try different combos. But first visit some of the most successful movie sites and see what they got.

05-07-2002, 10:10 PM	#31
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	it's too neat. i just have to keep my eye to the left side of the page for free shit try ungrouping all of the gallery links like this. put maybe 6 or 8 galleries at first, (charge for those spots) why? because you want to get the surfer warmed up. he will probably buy more often either thru the gallery page or your sponsor you place underneath the top spots then the rest of the galleries. __________________