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Yet another bannerless freehost...
I'm going to catch major shit for this....fuckit.
We've seen many a bannerless freehost's screw the pooch in the last few and I see alot of people thinking it can't be done. What if I were to say we're doing it and have been for a while. This host has been up since '98. Yea we've had our downtime...like anyone else...10 hours in 2001 to be exact and as long as a week straight about 3 years ago... The reason for this post it this, I think we got it down... And you know, this board is not a place one should fling their nuts on the chopping block...but you know what...I have faith in us. All the frills are there...and I ain't gonna lie we take your 404 and ditch your foreign traffic to boot. Our overhead is nothing and heck we even turn a profit...I personally think this one's here to stay. Prove me wrong. So here I am...pooing in the proverbial pool and challenging you to inspect it for peanuts...
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You sir, are a brave, brave man.
Excuse me while i hide under my desk.
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well, at least he senses that he's in deep shit
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-=HOAX=-
So you own web1000.com? What happened to webjump?
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xpics?
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Love the TAG -=HOAX=-
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Bravery...hmmm...sometimes the level of bravery one has can rest solely on the work one has done to prevent ones downfall. No need to hide Gary...I doubt this will ever go the route of some other well known threads...
Yes I work for the company that owns web1000.com...and webjump was sold to www.globe.com, when we decided that mainstream business just wasn't our style. Edited to add this: Hehe yes HOAX...I get your implied meaning...it was a moniker I used in my graffiti days...Now as I look back on the last few years webmastering, I can see it why it could be a hurdle for some to get over...You may call me Joshua if you'd like...
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Oh and yes....XPICS....
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How long will you remane banerless
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I'd say forever bake...we're making good money with our current model and I think as long as there's a web1000 it will be bannerless...I know you're trying to get me to commit, and I got no problem doing that.
It really has been around along time...and it does well for us...it lacks cgi capabilities I'll say that...but you can keep your own domain name so that's a plus.
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Tell us how you make money with a bannerless free host?
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If I did that there would be alot of other bannerless freehosts out there...
Tell me how you make your money...
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Hmmm I just read all your site, at least you have a plan and seem to know what you doing , why it is posable to pay for BW with 404 traffic it dosent leave much for profits you must be buying BW well under 30cents to make this work.
I hope your not going to force 404 traffic One thing 50mb of storage is not enought for the serious gallery builder these days with auto submitters makeing 100's of pages will you add extra space for these guys ? Oh well we will just wait and see what happens in a month or so if you dont try and screw anyone good luck to you.
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TGP's AVS's SE's. Nothing outside the norm.. =0))
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Once again it's simple, if a free host has no ads, then the only way to make money is to 404. Bandwidth is not free and they HAVE to make money for bandwidth, and all other operating costs. |
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let the countdown begin.
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![]() Hmm if this is a spam thread then.. mhhmmmhm (clearing throat)
I would like to introduce my new free host currently running without headers. Mhmmhmm, you get unlimited space and bandwidth as well as an ftp account. For more info check my signature ![]() If this was not spam then pardon me ![]()
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I'm not going to try and turn this into a "No you can't, Yes I can" pissing match...that's not what I brought this up for...I did bring this up because, well hell I'm trying to spark interest...I realize many have been fucked out of traffic and by NO MEANS WILL I EVER DO THIS...If worse came to the absolute worst...I'd publicly post that we are reverting to ads and make it very well known...honestly though I don't see it happening, I really don't.
My feet stink and I rarely wash them, therefore I have no desire to put one of them in my mouth... Yes there is a pretty stiff 404 in place...so keep your urls straight. And out of curiousity? Can anyone tell me what the longest life span of any bannerless freehost was?
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Dreamman...this was spam...I posted it to spark interest in something many have tried to do and failed...After 2 months we're succeeding quite well. If I were gonna climb MT. EVEREST I'd sure as hell let someone know...so in response to your ever so subtle spam in my thread...TOUCHE'!
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Of course you are spamming... I'm still surprised nobody is flaming you yet
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So you want this thread to get pissed in?
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No. Everything's cool. chillax
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Word. Toronto eh? I got some friends that just moved there with wired...lotta webmasters up there...heard it was beautiful today.
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Oh yeah!
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Yea geoff...consoles....lots of them...
I'm not sure...but I also think if you talk to support they'll hook you up...if you tell them I sent they will...hehehe
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Dreamman010 where abouts in Toronto are you?
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Ive been thinking about these guys for a few hours trying to work out how they will do it , theres only a one way I can see . please correct me If Im wrong . they must have the 404 screwed down tighter than my wallet , Meaning in peak times there 404 will pop up more , you can control how long a page loads before it goes 404 , so when you have some huge traffic and the server is getting hammerd 404 will come up more often , I suspect theres is set for a very short load time ? they also look like they have some way of the SE spiders picking up galleries more easyerly ? so there for ,they get more SE 404 traffic ? when they get enought people useing them on a good day they might get 20k of SE traffic witch should convert there 404 page well ? they seem to have been around for while and should have there 404 worked out buy now so they just might pull it off, well we will wait and see .
Wonder if spacedog sighed up yet ? more questions than answers so -=HOAX=- am I close or pissing in the wind ? PS whats the max file size ? and what type of hot linking protection do you use ?
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I don't buy it. Now, I don't have personal knowledge of you or your company, but I can't think of any reason in the world you'd buy a gb connection when you don't have enough traffic to justify it. Your arguments are inconsistent. On your web page, you claim you're just filling in traffic that you payed for, and here you're claiming that it's a profitable venture.
If you are certain of what you're doing, I suggest you make that more apparent in your text.
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hm....what i recall is that web1000 is among the very few freehosts that old moviepost owners still recommend. correct me if i'm wrong
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Adultwire, pipe down. At least Bake provides logical rhetoric when speaking about his competition. Don't go bashing your competition, have some fucking respect.
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My apologies. If he can do it, good for him.
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so they redirect a % of traffic or no?
was thinking of trying it but my TGP and many others have bots that check for that, so all pages will keep getting deleted correct? someone try it and let me know so i dont have to waste my time ![]() |
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According to their ad copy, they get additional 404's by redirecting some international traffic. But the text leaves me with the impression that they don't do a % based redirect on the rest of the traffic.
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mr htaccess will block and redirect by country, search engine ip, ip block or whatever you want.
damn don't you webmasters use this shit when you tgp? it isn't cheating, protecting your pics from who ever the hell you want is your biz. server side games is another story. nuff said ltrz
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Wow...go to bed and look what happens...
Okay lemme see if I can sift thru this... First off as far as justifying a gig connection, and whether or not this is profitable. Well we get our BW dirt fucking cheap and we always buy or pants a little big so we've got room to get fat...and this IS profitable for us...and it does use up some space...your research in the TOS and AD copy has all the answers and I see some of you have a fairly good idea of how this is working. Web1000 is perfect for movies, yes, and as I said before its cool cause you get to keep your same domain name which helps with branding. I was banned on some TGP's this is true...no one (including me...shhhh) liked the audio banners we used to promote purefuck. Although in their defense they convert REALLY well...owners just didn't like the fact that it could or did cost them surfers, which is understandable. Despite this I'm sure that if I was to take up the process of submitting in the future...which will probably happen at some point...I could email those that blacklisted me and explain my position and have the black removed. I've always been a straight shooter...and always will be...I've gone miles outa my way to help MANY webmasters of all levels...I can't honestly think of one person I've screwed or even treated poorly. Ok..well i've duped a few surfers...I'll admit that. ![]() Regardless, I'm happy this thread has remained civil and that there is honest interest from well established webmasters. It is the best I could've hoped for. Alot of hard work went into this and it will pay off well for all. ![]()
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i can't believe people fall for this all the time,,,
There is no such thing as a free thing,,,if its too good to be true then it ain't,,, you place all your hard work thinking you are getting over only to end up regretting it later on,,, bannerless hosting is total crap,,, the number of domains being hosted on zfreehost is amazing when i review galleries..all that time and energy wasted because your domain is blacklisted bandwidth is so cheap now that i can't believe a real good webmaster is using "bannerless free host",,, if you wanna use a good free host then stick with all the lightning's and kinghosts,,,, these free hosts have been on for a long time and i never heard of problems from them |
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Playa,
Illuminate me...when have you ever heard of problems with web1000? And for your info...we'vee been here about TWO YEARS longer than they have...just FYI
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Funny thing about "generalities" in general, its very easy to take a stance and very easy to not be held accountable for that stance. I'd say in general, people who have tried and failed at bannerless frehosting, have had a very hastily formulated revenue model. And in general have had very little in the way of supportive resources and systems to insure success. I'm all about specifics and I'm all about success...its the details, the pennies that make or break business models. Taking a step back to gain a wider view should not necessitate the neglect of the details.
Do you truly believe that there is ANYTHING that is NOT possible? We don't and that philosophy fills our world with challenges and opportunities. The test of time will render us a success or a failure in this current challenge. And at that point a banerless freehost will either become possible or not possible for us...plain and simple, but it will never be impossible. We've entered our pooch into the race after this elusive rabbit, bet against us or with us...it makes no difference to me, but don't make GENERAL assumptions about our track record without having specific knowledge first.
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you gotta make your money right? sorry but this is a risk that i and most webmasters do not wanna take the chance,,, what could you do with my hard earned traffic? anything you want,,the ball is in your court since i ain't a gambling man i don't wanna take the risk,,, but hey thats me ![]() |
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since we are on the topic of Freehosts
you can quote me on this one 90% of the Freehosting service only attracts cheaters and newbies think bout all the illegal/stolen content thats there now,,, and ppl just waiting to redirect all that traffic,,just to make that quick buck and leave |
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it's true web1000.com has been around for a long time. in 1999 i had an account with them to host some regular websites. Don''t know how it'll turn out for them in the adult industry though.......
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We've been both adult and mainstream since almost the beginning...
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Which Freehost software are you guys using there?
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