Why do you go to conventions? - GoFuckYourself.com

Amputate Your Head · 05-03-2005, 04:41 PM

Possible answers (and my reply to them):

A. I'm a sponsor, I feel I must go because the other sponsors do and I gotta keep up.

My reply: Okay, fair enough. I disagree, but don't dispute.

B. To "network" with other industry people and drum up new business.

My reply: That's bullshit. How much "business" has ever actually been done at these things. The usual end to a typical conversation there is "hit me up when we all get back from this". So why couldn't you do your business in the first place without going? Has anyone ever signed a contract at a convention?

C: To party man!

My reply: This is the dumbest fucking reason of all. You can't party where you are? Or do you honestly just love being around porn industry people. Pathetic.

D. Something to do.

My reply: Get a fucking life.

any other input on this? Just like to get a better picture of it all. Personally, I find these conventions a complete waste of time, energy, & money.

StuartD · 05-03-2005, 04:42 PM

Just because you get nothing out of it, doesn't mean no one else does.

I can't get a great design out of photoshop, I don't go around expecting that no one else does.

Amputate Your Head · 05-03-2005, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Just because you get nothing out of it, doesn't mean no one else does.

I can't get a great design out of photoshop, I don't go around expecting that no one else does.

Okay fine.... but what is it that you're getting out of it? That's the whole point of this thread.

StuartD · 05-03-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Okay fine.... but what is it that you're getting out of it? That's the whole point of this thread.

Face to face interaction. How much can you trust someone that you've only ever talked to on icq? Or the phone for that matter?
Sure you can't necessarily trust someone that you meet face to face but it sure does make things more real when you can look someone in the eye.

I like to be able to shake the hand of people that I like, talk to, become friends with and do business with.

Without conventions, I may never get that chance.

Sly · 05-03-2005, 04:46 PM

B: Not all business is done right then and there. A lot of it is meeting new faces, meeting and getting to know old faces better, and spending time with people you already do business with... essentially building stronger bonds. NETWORKING. Whether it be meeting every person in sight or just meeting a few select people, its all networking in its own form.

At every show I've met somebody that traffic that I didn't have a need for right then and there, but I knew that eventually I would want it. It always works out. Now I have a bunch of partner accounts, better listings, link trades, etc. Those easily pay for the convention cost, which really isn't much to begin with.

ronaldo · 05-03-2005, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Possible answers (and my reply to them):

A. I'm a sponsor, I feel I must go because the other sponsors do and I gotta keep up.

My reply: Okay, fair enough. I disagree, but don't dispute.

B. To "network" with other industry people and drum up new business.

My reply: That's bullshit. How much "business" has ever actually been done at these things. The usual end to a typical conversation there is "hit me up when we all get back from this". So why couldn't you do your business in the first place without going? Has anyone ever signed a contract at a convention?

C: To party man!

My reply: This is the dumbest fucking reason of all. You can't party where you are? Or do you honestly just love being around porn industry people. Pathetic.

D. Something to do.

My reply: Get a fucking life.

any other input on this? Just like to get a better picture of it all. Personally, I find these conventions a complete waste of time, energy, & money.

I certainly agree with you on C and D, but on B, a LOT of people are more comfortable doing business with people who they've met.

Does that take away any chance of being scammed in the future? Of course not. That's the preference of some people though.

How many deals are actually signed AT the show? You're probably right on that too. Very few compared to the number that are signed the days following the show, BECAUSE of the face to face meeting at the shows.

Chio The Pirate · 05-03-2005, 04:46 PM

YARGH! I'll be in Miami. I'll just throw shit at people, and yell YARGH! a lot.
Theo will be on sabatical.

ry0t · 05-03-2005, 04:48 PM

dude.. shut up.

ry0t · 05-03-2005, 04:48 PM

just because you hate life doesnt mean we all have to.

Drake · 05-03-2005, 04:49 PM

Probably sometimes to get a better feel and impression of somebody or persons that you've been in talks with on things like ICQ and email. It's a time when you can finally meet face to face and chat informally or formally depending on the venue, about your previous discussions and move forward on a more personal basis.

Amputate Your Head · 05-03-2005, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ry0t

just because you hate life doesnt mean we all have to.

who said I hate life? I love life. Especially my life.
I do hate conventions however.

wargames · 05-03-2005, 04:55 PM

I personally go to the shows to relax. I am on the comp 10-15 hours a day 7 days a week. The shows are the only vacation i get. Plus i get to see people I have been doing biz with online for the last couple of years now. Basically go relax get drunk and see people I do biz with on icq and email on a daily basis.

eroswebmaster · 05-03-2005, 04:59 PM

to look cool

swedguy · 05-03-2005, 05:00 PM

A: I don't.

Platinumpimp · 05-03-2005, 05:02 PM

I agree with you Amp, on point C and D that is.

kenny · 05-03-2005, 05:03 PM

The places where they have conventions don't have 3.2 beer

TehKinkyHotness · 05-03-2005, 05:13 PM

I come for the party but I stay for the boobies...

huey · 05-03-2005, 05:13 PM

Long story short of why I go to conventions.
Met people two years ago that were sharp but not in great positions.
Two years later still sharp in great positions doing good bizz now with them.
Would have never met them on a board or by luck.

gage · 05-03-2005, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Possible answers (and my reply to them):

B. To "network" with other industry people and drum up new business.

My reply: That's bullshit. How much "business" has ever actually been done at these things. The usual end to a typical conversation there is "hit me up when we all get back from this". So why couldn't you do your business in the first place without going? Has anyone ever signed a contract at a convention?

The better question is who signs contracts anyway in this industry. When I visit this site it seems a lot of people negate this whole process.. which is too bad. -g

Head · 05-03-2005, 06:45 PM

To lay a pornstar.

Peaches · 05-03-2005, 06:47 PM

I go for the free anal sex.

quiet · 05-03-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

I go for the free anal sex.

when do you arrive?

Amputate Your Head · 05-03-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gage

The better question is who signs contracts anyway in this industry. When I visit this site it seems a lot of people negate this whole process.. which is too bad. -g

if you do business with me, you sign. Period.

quiet · 05-03-2005, 08:56 PM

and for the record, i have absolutely no use for conventions. i went to internext in 2001, and have never gone to one since. business-wise, i never saw a point. however, i do believe they are a good idea to use as a vacation you can also write off. i wish i'd utilized that angle more often.

Sly · 05-03-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

and for the record, i have absolutely no use for conventions. i went to internext in 2001, and have never gone to one since. business-wise, i never saw a point. however, i do believe they are a good idea to use as a vacation you can also write off. i wish i'd utilized that angle more often.

That's probably the best part.

Mini-vacation you can write off.

After Shock Media · 05-03-2005, 08:59 PM

Meet people face to face and vacation I can write off.

Oh and to load up on the next years around the house t-shirts.

Amputate Your Head · 05-03-2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

and for the record, i have absolutely no use for conventions. i went to internext in 2001, and have never gone to one since. business-wise, i never saw a point. however, i do believe they are a good idea to use as a vacation you can also write off. i wish i'd utilized that angle more often.

yeah, I used to think that too.... but it's not much of a vacation when you work the whole time and spend more on work related gear in order to do that than you would in your office.

plus, I suppose you gotta actually LIKE the place your going in the first place before you can think of it as a "vacation".

none of the above worked for me.

Juicy D. Links · 05-03-2005, 09:04 PM

To get away from it all and shit tbh. Kinda like a mini vacation for me. I didnt go to that many conventions early on but lately have been to see friends and getaway from the stress in NY

quiet · 05-03-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

plus, I suppose you gotta actually LIKE the place your going in the first place before you can think of it as a "vacation".

for the most part i agree. but that Curacao one sounds pretty sweet, as does the Jamaican one...

xxxdesign-net · 05-03-2005, 09:22 PM

Popularity... I have seen small programs or nobodies become, in the eyes of some, "industry players" ... They really arent.. but the fact that some people see them as that, or close to that.. will undoubtly help them in their business..

As for bigger programs.. it just reinforce their popularity...

The Sultan Of Smut · 05-03-2005, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Okay fine.... but what is it that you're getting out of it? That's the whole point of this thread.

Tax write off.

Mr Pheer · 05-03-2005, 09:32 PM

I've been in this game since '96, and I've been to one convention - Las Vegas this past January. Only because I live in Vegas and only because I had a free pass. And all it did was confirm what I had suspected all along... nothing for me at the conventions. I didnt get a single bit of new business out of it.

DWB · 05-03-2005, 09:41 PM

I don't. I went to one a few years back and was not very impressed. I came home with a shit load of t-shirts and flyers for shit I never used, called or ever thought about again.

I think about going from time to time but as it ends up, I'm always out of the country shooting when they go down so... I guess it all works out.

ry0t · 05-03-2005, 09:44 PM

Alright I figured out what it boils down to. You have no say in this matter because you have enough business to last you for ages so there's no need to bother yourself with going to conventions. Obviously you have a nice life in Hawaii with whatever you do there and so you don't feel the need to go and chill with the industry people.

GTS Mark · 05-03-2005, 09:58 PM

I find conventions are pretty important to my business. We have a product to sell and we want to meet more customers and get to nurture our relationships with our current customers.

I personally enjoy travelling and going to see new places, plus meeting interesting people. Generally I travel with Magnus and we always seem to have a good time no matter where we are or what we are doing (I hope that doesn't sound gay LOL!)

Alot of the time we are going to fun places like Las Vegas, Miami, LA etc.. It's not like we are going to cold ass Michigan in the middle of the winter or something ;)

DH

P.S. The tax writeoffs don't hurt either ;)

SleazyDream · 05-03-2005, 10:03 PM

business reasons.

ok, i fall into more ideas and business at conventions than most can dream of - stuff i would have NEVER gotten if I hadn't gone.

personal reasons

i travel to all kinds of new places and I'm able to see them with people on the same wave length as I am , and many are locals that show the proper flavor of the places i visit. it's one of the BEST ways to travel cause in this biz you hang woth FUN people that have lots of money

SleazyDream · 05-03-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

for the most part i agree. but that Curacao one sounds pretty sweet, as does the Jamaican one...

prague,phoenix, cancun and hawaii this year didn't hurt

05-03-2005, 04:41 PM	#1
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Why do you go to conventions? Possible answers (and my reply to them): A. I'm a sponsor, I feel I must go because the other sponsors do and I gotta keep up. My reply: Okay, fair enough. I disagree, but don't dispute. B. To "network" with other industry people and drum up new business. My reply: That's bullshit. How much "business" has ever actually been done at these things. The usual end to a typical conversation there is "hit me up when we all get back from this". So why couldn't you do your business in the first place without going? Has anyone ever signed a contract at a convention? C: To party man! My reply: This is the dumbest fucking reason of all. You can't party where you are? Or do you honestly just love being around porn industry people. Pathetic. D. Something to do. My reply: Get a fucking life. any other input on this? Just like to get a better picture of it all. Personally, I find these conventions a complete waste of time, energy, & money. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

05-03-2005, 04:42 PM	#2
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05-03-2005, 04:46 PM	#5
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	B: Not all business is done right then and there. A lot of it is meeting new faces, meeting and getting to know old faces better, and spending time with people you already do business with... essentially building stronger bonds. NETWORKING. Whether it be meeting every person in sight or just meeting a few select people, its all networking in its own form. At every show I've met somebody that traffic that I didn't have a need for right then and there, but I knew that eventually I would want it. It always works out. Now I have a bunch of partner accounts, better listings, link trades, etc. Those easily pay for the convention cost, which really isn't much to begin with. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details. Last edited by Sly; 05-03-2005 at 04:47 PM..

05-03-2005, 04:55 PM	#12
wargames Kliris Join Date: May 2003 Location: ca Posts: 10,423	I personally go to the shows to relax. I am on the comp 10-15 hours a day 7 days a week. The shows are the only vacation i get. Plus i get to see people I have been doing biz with online for the last couple of years now. Basically go relax get drunk and see people I do biz with on icq and email on a daily basis. __________________ ICQ 212-115-582 Email Steve at Vas Media Group .com

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Chio The Pirate Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: YARGH! On me big sailboat with the skull flags * * ICQ: 39-183769 Posts: 946	YARGH! I'll be in Miami. I'll just throw shit at people, and yell YARGH! a lot. Theo will be on sabatical.

05-03-2005, 04:48 PM	#8
ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	dude.. shut up.

05-03-2005, 04:49 PM	#10
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Probably sometimes to get a better feel and impression of somebody or persons that you've been in talks with on things like ICQ and email. It's a time when you can finally meet face to face and chat informally or formally depending on the venue, about your previous discussions and move forward on a more personal basis.

05-03-2005, 05:00 PM	#14
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	A: I don't.

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Platinumpimp Logos and such. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kingdom of the Netherlands Posts: 10,214	I agree with you Amp, on point C and D that is. __________________ I design logo's.

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kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	The places where they have conventions don't have 3.2 beer __________________ 7

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TehKinkyHotness Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 533	I come for the party but I stay for the boobies...

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huey Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: vancouver Posts: 3,803	Long story short of why I go to conventions. Met people two years ago that were sharp but not in great positions. Two years later still sharp in great positions doing good bizz now with them. Would have never met them on a board or by luck. __________________ opinions are like assholes................. "They aren't after me, they are AFTER YOU! Im just in their way" -D.J. Trump

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Head Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Starship Enterprise Posts: 8,278	To lay a pornstar. __________________

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Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	I go for the free anal sex.

05-03-2005, 08:56 PM	#24
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	and for the record, i have absolutely no use for conventions. i went to internext in 2001, and have never gone to one since. business-wise, i never saw a point. however, i do believe they are a good idea to use as a vacation you can also write off. i wish i'd utilized that angle more often. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Meet people face to face and vacation I can write off. Oh and to load up on the next years around the house t-shirts. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

05-03-2005, 09:04 PM	#28
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	To get away from it all and shit tbh. Kinda like a mini vacation for me. I didnt go to that many conventions early on but lately have been to see friends and getaway from the stress in NY

05-03-2005, 09:22 PM	#30
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	Popularity... I have seen small programs or nobodies become, in the eyes of some, "industry players" ... They really arent.. but the fact that some people see them as that, or close to that.. will undoubtly help them in their business.. As for bigger programs.. it just reinforce their popularity...

05-03-2005, 09:32 PM	#32
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,288	I've been in this game since '96, and I've been to one convention - Las Vegas this past January. Only because I live in Vegas and only because I had a free pass. And all it did was confirm what I had suspected all along... nothing for me at the conventions. I didnt get a single bit of new business out of it. __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

05-03-2005, 09:41 PM	#33
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I don't. I went to one a few years back and was not very impressed. I came home with a shit load of t-shirts and flyers for shit I never used, called or ever thought about again. I think about going from time to time but as it ends up, I'm always out of the country shooting when they go down so... I guess it all works out. Last edited by DWB; 05-03-2005 at 09:43 PM..

05-03-2005, 09:44 PM	#34
ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	Alright I figured out what it boils down to. You have no say in this matter because you have enough business to last you for ages so there's no need to bother yourself with going to conventions. Obviously you have a nice life in Hawaii with whatever you do there and so you don't feel the need to go and chill with the industry people.

05-03-2005, 09:58 PM	#35
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	I find conventions are pretty important to my business. We have a product to sell and we want to meet more customers and get to nurture our relationships with our current customers. I personally enjoy travelling and going to see new places, plus meeting interesting people. Generally I travel with Magnus and we always seem to have a good time no matter where we are or what we are doing (I hope that doesn't sound gay LOL!) Alot of the time we are going to fun places like Las Vegas, Miami, LA etc.. It's not like we are going to cold ass Michigan in the middle of the winter or something ;) DH P.S. The tax writeoffs don't hurt either ;)

05-03-2005, 10:03 PM	#36
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	business reasons. ok, i fall into more ideas and business at conventions than most can dream of - stuff i would have NEVER gotten if I hadn't gone. personal reasons i travel to all kinds of new places and I'm able to see them with people on the same wave length as I am , and many are locals that show the proper flavor of the places i visit. it's one of the BEST ways to travel cause in this biz you hang woth FUN people that have lots of money __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.