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Old 11-04-2004, 11:17 AM   #1
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so, whatcha in for? spamming aol, you?.. murder..oooowwk

due to aol and the amount of $ they can put into legal real fucking criminals are still walking the streets, selling the crack, robbing the old and puttin out the hoes. while our all ready backed up legal system jumps through hoops to put bulk mailers in jail?

now our tax money is going to pay to keep this guy in jail for 9 years due to the fact he sent spam? i cant think of the man hours spent, the amount of legal process used and the time it took for this case to go through. mean while in the real world we all live in you can buy some crack on just about every 5th corner.

dont get me wrong, im not happy with the amount of spam i get in my mail box, but if i had the choice to a) have the sender put in jail or b) have a crystal meth dealer locked up, well im afraid id have to say b.

what a fucking joke....
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:18 AM   #2
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im gonna return to my thug roots and start dealing drugs again

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Old 11-04-2004, 11:21 AM   #3
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im gonna return to my thug roots and start dealing drugs again

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possision with intent schedule 3 narcotic in sc carrys 5-8 years

you get LESS time selling crack herion or meth then sending email
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:24 AM   #4
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Well, I guess they made their point!

Anybody have links to the story? I'm interested in what exactly he was doing. I presume he wasn't following the weird ass legal spam rules?
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:25 AM   #5
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possision with intent schedule 3 narcotic in sc carrys 5-8 years

you get LESS time selling crack herion or meth then sending email
you can make more money with bulk though ;)

i think the legal system is tired of seeing 18 19 20 year olds making more cash then them without hurting anyone
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:27 AM   #6
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you can make more money with bulk though ;)

i think the legal system is tired of seeing 18 19 20 year olds making more cash then them without hurting anyone
havent sold much crack have you
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:28 AM   #7
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They aren't serving time in the same place. The reform is completely different.

Besides those spammers were scamming too

It has been posted several times
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:03 PM   #8
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due to aol and the amount of $ they can put into legal real fucking criminals are still walking the streets, selling the crack, robbing the old and puttin out the hoes. while our all ready backed up legal system jumps through hoops to put bulk mailers in jail?

now our tax money is going to pay to keep this guy in jail for 9 years due to the fact he sent spam? i cant think of the man hours spent, the amount of legal process used and the time it took for this case to go through. mean while in the real world we all live in you can buy some crack on just about every 5th corner.

dont get me wrong, im not happy with the amount of spam i get in my mail box, but if i had the choice to a) have the sender put in jail or b) have a crystal meth dealer locked up, well im afraid id have to say b.

what a fucking joke....
And that's not even considering other possible charges associated with spamming. Somewhere along the line, some of society has become more tolerant or rapists and murderers than they are of spammers. It all leads back to 8 years ago, when AOL introduced unlimited access. They brainwashed the masses into joining by the millions by making them believe getting an email in your inbox is like opening a tiny little gift every time. It takes 20-30 seconds to delete 500 spam mails, yet people aren't just getting tiny little gifts in email anymore, they are getting a slew of things they don't want, making it harder to find that little gift in the rubble.

So yeah, now you could rack up all kinds of charges and spend years and years in prison because you are dubbed the digital anti-Santa Claus.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:19 PM   #9
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due to aol and the amount of $ they can put into legal real fucking criminals are still walking the streets, selling the crack, robbing the old and puttin out the hoes. while our all ready backed up legal system jumps through hoops to put bulk mailers in jail?

now our tax money is going to pay to keep this guy in jail for 9 years due to the fact he sent spam? i cant think of the man hours spent, the amount of legal process used and the time it took for this case to go through. mean while in the real world we all live in you can buy some crack on just about every 5th corner.

dont get me wrong, im not happy with the amount of spam i get in my mail box, but if i had the choice to a) have the sender put in jail or b) have a crystal meth dealer locked up, well im afraid id have to say b.

what a fucking joke....
I'm glad that guy is in jail. He knew what he was doing. He probably had ample warning to stop. I havent read his story yet, but no doubt, he was either stealing mail/isp accounts, spamming porn to minors, or committing some other kind of fraud.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:23 PM   #10
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I'm glad that guy is in jail. He knew what he was doing. He probably had ample warning to stop. I havent read his story yet, but no doubt, he was either stealing mail/isp accounts, spamming porn to minors, or committing some other kind of fraud.
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:47 PM   #11
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Exactly. Fuck that guy.

I know there are a handful of spammers who hang out on this board, and if you are too dumb to either follow the rules, or do it from out of the country than you deserve what you get.

I can't think of the exact number, but a staggering percentage of spam comes from inside the US. You guys who are doing it clearly make money on it, and you know it's illeagle... So good riddiance.

The average crack dealer is some poor kid on the street who can't make a living any other way. You guys are *in theory* smart, tech savvy, and basically just breaking the law because you are lazy bastards.
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:49 PM   #12
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Exactly. Fuck that guy.

I know there are a handful of spammers who hang out on this board, and if you are too dumb to either follow the rules, or do it from out of the country than you deserve what you get.

I can't think of the exact number, but a staggering percentage of spam comes from inside the US. You guys who are doing it clearly make money on it, and you know it's illeagle... So good riddiance.

The average crack dealer is some poor kid on the street who can't make a living any other way. You guys are *in theory* smart, tech savvy, and basically just breaking the law because you are lazy bastards.
This has got to be the stupidest post I have ever read in 6 years in this business.
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:37 PM   #13
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This has got to be the stupidest post I have ever read in 6 years in this business.
Hows that?
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:14 PM   #14
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i agree to an extent

yes, fuck that guy but come the fuck on 9 years? have you ever watched oz? guys do 5 years on rape charges, i mean in every liquar store you go in you see the sign

armed robbery will get you 7 years with no parole

wtf? 7 years for sticking a gun in someones face and stealing from them, vs 9 years for sending email?

are you not seeing that this is aol rearing its giant head pressing this issue? honestly, the entire world dont give a fuck in general about spam. there are bigger issues that need addressed that all this time + tax money could be spent on.
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:15 PM   #15
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This has got to be the stupidest post I have ever read in 6 years in this business.

I'll second that...


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Old 11-04-2004, 04:43 PM   #16
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I'm not arguing that the sentence wasn't fairly extreme.

I'm arguing that any guy who is making millions of dollars spamming through proxies, apparently using email lists stolen from AOL, and is doing it from North Carolina gets what he deserves. If I had 24 million bones, I'd at least do it from an offshore setup.

I agree that there are bigger issues in the world than spam, but thats not really the point. There are bigger problems in the world than traffic violations too, but those laws still get enforced.

TheJimmy/Anthony_A, which part of my post was stupid? That I think the idiot got what he deserved? "You are dumb" isn't really a good counter-argument.

This guy got a large sentence to make a point. If he got busted hard for spamming and got 3 months, and made 24 million bucks; who would that deter?

9 years obviously has the spammers thinking a bit.
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