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sorry, this is buried ina six page thread about Ecstasy, and I felt this needed its own attention, because whether you like it or not, it IS important.

and so:



this is precisely the problem with drug supporters/users.

You tend to focus on this one thing only. "any entity defining what is legal or illegal to injest."

That's all good and well..... fine, you're some sort of drug freedom fighter. Whatever makes you feel good.

But what they don't see is the fact that they are gambling with their very lives. And I don't mean just risk of overdose. I mean:


You face addiction. You can profess moderation all you want, and hey, that's great.... but if you're using, you face the possibility of addiction. And more people than not get addicted to shit, rather easily. That is the nature of drugs.

You face losing your freedom. Remember, these drugs you love so much are still ILLEGAL. You can justify it with analogys of alcohol and cigarettes all you want, but the fact remains, alcohol and cigarettes are NOT illegal. If you get nailed using LSD, Coke, X, Weed, etc..... you ARE going to jail. And on a side note, the IRS seizes ALOT of cars and homes because of busted drug users. You don't mind giving that up?

The odds are also, if you use consistently, that at least one other person knows about it. Probably more. And the odds are that they use as well. Your risk just increased exponentially. If THEY get nailed, how confident are you that they are going to sell YOUR ass out to save theirs? Again, you risk your very freedom.

Dealers: Okay, so you say you're just an occasional user.... you don't deal. But it's no secret that illegal drug dealers are not exactly the fucking poster boys for your basic upsatnding citizen. Fuck up a deal, or piss one of them off, and you now face losing your life, your families life, or your property. (again)


Tell me again about how drugs are a good thing?

Are you REALLY willing to gamble all of that just for..... what? Because it "feels awesome dude!"


I say again, drug users are fucking stupid people. You are playing with fucking fire, and sooner or later, it is GOING to burn your ass.


Go ahead..... tell me I'm nuts. I don't know shit. You got it under control. You're not like that. Blah blah blah.









It's YOUR life.

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Amputate Your Head

smoke up.

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scoobydookc

I've tried pounding the same idea into so many people's heads it's insane, but nobody listens.... I feel your pain :P

School your close friends, and let the rest use and abuse until the worst thing could happen to them happen --- just makes more for you and me.

But I'm an asshole. I'm just not spending another 10 minutes explaining to a to-be junkie on whatever new drug they're about to throw their lives away, but in the beginning they don't have much to throw away. >=\

freeadultcontent

Good message yet the last line is the most important one. Arguing the reasons to use or not to use is about as pointless as trying to get a census on the number of grains of salt in the US.

Every drug is bad in some way, be it legal or for health reasons. Yet I am a firm believer in ones right to choose what they do to their own bodies.

Yes I do think the Government causes more problems with drugs than the actual drugs do, but unfortunatly until the people change that it will remain reality in my eyes.

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Spunky

Yea I smoke joints once in awhile.I'm only harming myself. I don't think I'm an idiot doing it. I feel its like having a few beers.

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bcooter

Good post, but i wish it would have stayed buried.

This is not the place to argue the dthics of drug use. This is a place to exploit women and make money from pictures and videos of them performing sexual acts on men for money.

If you don't agree with doing drugs, then don't gamble.

If you do, more power to ya, but don't try to push your believes on people.

No matter how educated your response to a post, you're not going to make someone start, or stop doing drugs. So don't waste your time and effort. I'm an alcoholic, and I fucking love it. You can show me pictures of livers that are bloated and decaying, i don't give a fuck. You can tell me how great ecstasy is, i don't give a fuck. im not gonna do it.

please save your finger strength to post something that can help any type of person related to the adult webmaster business, because talk of drugs will only bring the ATF here, along with the feds scoping out the CP.

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Joe Citizen

It is like having a few beers.

Nothing wrong with either.

Whether something is legal or illegal is arbitrary and meaningless.

Amputate Your Head

apparently my original post was completely lost on you. It isn't arbitrary or meaningless. The risks are real and great. You may see it as having a beer, but the rest of the world doesn't. And when you're sitting in the clink wondering why Jethro wants to devastate your virgin ass, maybe you will remember what I said about risk assesment.



fucking druggies..... stupid, stupid people/.

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sending people to jail for taking drugs in circumstances where they are doing no harm to anyone is crazy logic. there are legal drugs around that people take every day that are just as damaging as illegal drugs.. the law isn't working.. people still take these illegal (tax exempt) drugs.. and what's worse is they are not fully educated on them.. they are afraid to ask for help if problems arise from having taken them.. the law banning many substances breeds fear and paranoia among younger people making them criminals some begin to associate and identify with criminals of other persuasions.

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<I>apparently my original post was completely lost on you. It isn't arbitrary or meaningless. The risks are real and great. You may see it as having a beer, but the rest of the world doesn't. And when you're sitting in the clink wondering why Jethro wants to devastate your virgin ass, maybe you will remember what I said about risk assesment.



fucking druggies..... stupid, stupid people/.</I>

Yeah, like getting caught with marijuana will get you time in prison. In some states (i.e., California) you are just cited. In others (Texas), they just take you to county jail (no raping there) and release you and give you a fine.

Sure, it's not a good thing, but I think it is worth it. I am 18, so basically it would be the same as if I were caught with alcohol.

Spunky

What about people addicted to pain killers and other medication when the doctor knows they are addicted?They are the real killers,they just keep filling out those prescrpitions for their fee to fatten their wallet.They are no differant than the crack dealers.

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This After School Special was brought to you by the Drug Enforcement Agency in conjunction with D.A.R.E.

The same Federal Government who supplies 8 people with unlimited medical marijuana.

I'm not as much against the people doing it, as I am the thought behind it. It's not them doing the drugs, but why they felt the need to do them in the first place...

Just as I hate (people who CAN'T CONTROL THESE THINGS) Gambling, Alcohol, Illegal Drugs, Beating their Girlfriends/Wives, Beating their Meat, Picking up hookers, Looking at porno on the interne--- err...

These people keep people like me in business, I withdraw all my statements, they're good people :D

Amputate Your Head

tell that to the police that locked me up for illegal drugs multiple times.

They don't fucking care. Your ideaology and theories and bullshit go right out the fucking hahahahahaha when you're sitting in jail. And I can promise you from experience, that's exactly where drugs will lead you. Whether you have A PROBLEM or not is totally irrelevant. You're living in a world where you are risking your fucking life in one aspect or another. And I can't even begin to imagine why any intelligent person would willingly do that.

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Amputate Your Head

you're admittedly 18 years old.

I'm pushing 38. More than TWICE your age. I was doing LSD before you were even fucking THOUGHT of.


Is it even remotely possible that MAYBE...... just MAYBE, I've been there, done that, got the fucking t-shirt? Am I stupid here? WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Drugs will get you nowhere kid.

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Joe Citizen

I'm 34 and I disagree completely.

I've been there, done that and I'm still doing it.

And it still feels good.

Amputate Your Head

and what exactly has your drug use done for you? Are you proud of it? Do you brag to your family and friends? Has it helped you advance in life, in your career, financially?

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TGCashin

Ok, first off why the f' do u care what others do with their life? If someone wants to sit around in the privacy of their home and smoke a joint, why in the world do you feal you have the right to tell them they shouldn't do it? I am VERY MUCH against smoking cigs, but as long as someone doesn't do it around me then I wont say it's wrong. I will definitely suggest them not to, and sometimes give reasons, but to straight out tell them they are wrong for doing it is retarded. I have NO right to tell anyone how to live their lives cause I know dam well I have faults in mine. When I don't, then maybe I should try and tell others how too, but it will never happen.

As for risking your life, that's just retarded. Every time you do ANYTHING, your risking your life. Every time you go in a car you at risk of getting in an accident. Anything you do, something COULD happen. People claim they are addicted to Mc D's and that's why their fat, so lets not eat Mc D's?

Seriously, people who are against drugs, that's OK. We all have our own views and opinions, that's why we have free will. Stop trying to tell others how they should live their lives. What works for you, chances are, won't work for others.

Sorry if theirs typos and fragments here. I am typing this quick (sorta rambling on) because I am very busy. I just can't stand it when people decide it's their job to tell others how to live their lives. If that wasn't you intent (to preach), my apologias.

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bizmak

I've said it enough.. STAY OF THE DRUGS

ArikaAmes

It's ironic, there's a few thread about drugs on the front page.
One of my old friends just died this past Sunday morning from an overdose. I always told him that he needs to stop taking those pills ( not only for him but for his three year old son). It finally got to him.
The thing that popped into my head about the whole thing is that after his funeral his friends were going to get together and get fucked up in memory of him. Absolutely Amazing!!!(I thought) Some people will never change, and it's "There Life"

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scoobydookc

All I will say now is there is a certain kind of personality trait associated with all kinds of "unneeded addictions" as I listed before, a lack of self-control. Because after all, it was their own free will in the situations I'm speaking of (not the prescription addictions). I could care less what people do in their own time, but I want it for references because I won't trust them as far as I can throw them. Whether that's motivation enough for them to quit their habit or not... ok i'm finished :\

Joe Citizen

I've had adventures all over the world taking drugs. I've gotten drunk, stoned and wired and laughed my arse off with people from around the globe while having more fun than I possibly could have had sober.

Do I regret it? No. Never, not in a million years.

Why does taking drugs need to advance me in life, career or financially? I'm where I want to be. I own my own house outright and am in a great relationship.

I've never stolen to support a drug habit. I've never committed one violent act while under the influence of drugs. I've never held up a convenience store and I've never been arrested - for anything.

Basically, I'm a happy person and drugs simply add to my quality of life. I enjoy it and it's nobody elses business.

End of story.

Amputate Your Head

I am a hypocrite?!

Explain yourself.

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TGCashin

My dad has skin cancer, shit I should never go in the sun. My friend got hit by a car riding his bike, SHIT GUYYYYYS, get ride of your bikes! My friend got hit by a car and died crossing right in front of his house, guess i can't across the street anymore. My sister got pregnant having sex, Abstinence 4 life! My friend got food poisoning the other day eating a sub, shit no more fast food for me!

Yeh... Why don't we just sit in a bubble? What fun is life if u don't take risks?

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Amputate Your Head

if all that is really true, then consider yourself fortunate. You are the EXCEPTION and most definately NOT the rule.

And you know it.

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Amputate Your Head

those are all things that cannot be anticipated or prevented.

Drug use is preventable.

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Don't you drink? a lot?

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TGCashin

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In the most non rude way, shut the fuck up. (Please note, none of these thoughts are of mine, im just trying to prove how stupid what he said sounds!) Are u going to say that you should follow blacks around in stores cause they steal? You should harrase kids with piercings because they are trouble maker freaks. If someone has alot of tattoo's he's a bad ass? If someone has a high pitched voice, he must be a fag?

Why don't you stop steriotyping people? Just cause you smoke weed, drink alc, or anything else, doesn't mean your addicted. Did you ever stop and think maby it's not an addiction, maby they just enjoy doing it! Like when you go eat pizza, are u saying it's addiction if u do it multi times? I mean it can't be that you just enjoy eating pizza? It has to be an addiction?

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TGCashin

It can all be prevented, just do do the things I listed... What your saying is totally contracting. You can prevent getting hit by a car by not going in the street. You can prevent eating fast food by just not doing it.

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detoxed

Drugs arent illegal everywhere. Some countries they are legal some they arent

Still illegal, but in California less than an ounce of marijuana is like a speeding ticket and just like driving 66 in a 65 I am willing to take that risk.

alias

you could use some drugs, prescription or illicit

just go to a doc or self medicate and order it off the web or get some weed on the beach

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TGCashin
[B]Ok, first off why the f' do u care what others do with their life? [b][quote]
because, believe it or not, I actually DO care. I've been there. I've seen the worst.

I never told anyone what they can or cannot do. I've always said, it's YOUR life... you are free to destroy it.

No different than what I'm doing right now.

drug use IS wrong.... whether you believe it or not. It's a fact of fucking life.

get over it already.

it is?!

piss poor argument.

you are an immature, uneducated fool.

No one is preaching. And no one is TELLING you what you can and can't do. But I AM telling you that you are fucking stupid for doing it. And you will eventually regret it, and someday, somewhere, you will find yourself in a pile of shit telling yourself, 'AMp was right.'.



I promise you.

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TGCashin

What that one dude said is if you do drugs you can't be trusted... So the fact that I enjoy getting high to relax once in a while means I'm going to steal from you and back stab you? LoL, thats why like 30 girls tell me their problems daily because they know I am a REALLY good friend and never would tell what they tell me. Also because I ussualy give good advice. God, better not smoke pot or else that will all change. I mean 1 toke and my life will goto hell. I get caught with a bud and I'm going to jail for life. I take 1 hit and my life will goto shit and I will become a burn out!

I been programming since I was 9, I had a 91 GPA as of last year and I dont put 1 bit of effort into school. This year i have a 98 and I missed over 30 days. Now i'm not saying I do drugs, but if I did, they don't seem to be effecting me one bit!

Let people decide what they wanna do for themself and stop thinking your idea of what is right and wrong is 100% correct.

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Amputate Your Head

#1: Alcohol is NOT an illegal drug.

#2: no, I don't drink booze anymore because of being manic-depressive. It's like lighting the fuse to a bundle of dynamite. I know it, whether I want to profess the awesomeness of alcohol or not, IT IS A FACT THAT I MUST FACE....... and since I'm grown, I can accept that, and have since eliminated booze from my body.


I'm bipolar... not stupid.

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abyss_al

i think it was chris rocck who said it best - yes chris rock -

" the only reason drugs are illegal in America is because the best ones come from other contries! So America has to make their 'drug money' some other way - and that's by selling medication. They post commercials that make sencse to everyone, one way or another 'are u tired all the time?' - 'do you sleep long hours?' - 'do you have trouble sleeping?' ... etc.. - then they advertise some perscription medication you 'need' - bunch of Bullshit!

shrinks and doctors are alot like mechanics - you go in for one thing, you end up leaving with a bunch of shit thats 'wrong' with you, or they give you shit, or ignore something thats wrong so you end up there long term

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Joe Citizen

But can just as easily kill you or destroy your life.

In fact, probably easier because it's so readily available.

Face facts, alcohol is a hard drug.

Every year in your country over 100,000 people die alcohol related deaths.

TGCashin

I guess we have Jesus Christ himself here! This guy can predict all of our lives! I mean, he even has the ability to tell us what is clearly an opion is actually a FACT! God, last time I remmember (3rd grade shit) everything you said is YOUR OPIONION, NOT A FACT.

I need to grow up? You need to open your eyes. I'm imature? I think I am a bit more mature than you because you are closed to ideas besides your own.

What you are doing and what I am doing are totally different. I don't tell people who smoke they will be a failure and reget it, i just say i dont think tis good and has no benifits. Just cause they smoke a cig, doesn't mean their going to get cancer and die.

My grama can't go 5-10 minutes without cigs, she loves it and doesn't have any form of cancer. The only thing she ever drinks is Bud Light, all day long, and she loves it. Seem's like she has lives a healthy and fullfilling life. How come she doesn't regret it and she isn't sitting in a prision cell? Maby it's because your OPIONIONS arn't FACTS and dont apply to everyone!

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KRL

How people smoke packs of cigs every day, put excessive alcohol in their body, and do drugs day and night is beyond me.

Get some help. It might be fun now, but when you get older you'll be kicking yourself in the butt everyday wondering why you did that to your body.

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please just agree to disagree agreeably. this thread will NEVER change someones view on life.

let it die.

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Wrong. That is not a fact it is your opinion.

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