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Dirty F · 02-15-2004, 04:10 PM

Sorry if theres a similar topic already...

I just came back from holiday and my stats for the last 2.5 days show 2 sales with 15k clicks.

I heard from 2 program owners that affiliate sales dont show for them so i guess also not for me (the affiliate)

Anybody any answers?

jact · 02-15-2004, 04:12 PM

Nothing is wrong with CCBill, it's the program's fault, your traffic sucks, your advertising methods suck, your dog pissed in its water bowl and that raised your ratios. I think those are similar to corvett's responses lately.

chrisp420 · 02-15-2004, 04:13 PM

talk to covette he seems to be helpful

Tipsy · 02-15-2004, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by jact
...your dog pissed in its water bowl and that raised your ratios.

Does that work for cats too? If so I may try it.

jact · 02-15-2004, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Tipsy

Does that work for cats too? If so I may try it.

It's highly experimental, I can't say for sure which way it'll go, but it's worth giving it a try either way!

Bansheelinks · 02-15-2004, 04:42 PM

the word is a lot of ppl are having a terrible Feb. with CCBill........that goes for rebills as well from what I hear.....

is this a first sign of trouble on the horizon for ccbill I wonder? its the same pattern as a lot of other processors that ran into problems

Dirty F · 02-15-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks
the word is a lot of ppl are having a terrible Feb. with CCBill........that goes for rebills as well from what I hear.....

is this a first sign of trouble on the horizon for ccbill I wonder? its the same pattern as a lot of other processors that ran into problems

Well i was perfectly fine till a few days ago...
And 2 program owners (fairly big) told me the affiliate sales werent showing today and yesterday so something is up for sure.

jact · 02-15-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks
the word is a lot of ppl are having a terrible Feb. with CCBill........that goes for rebills as well from what I hear.....

is this a first sign of trouble on the horizon for ccbill I wonder? its the same pattern as a lot of other processors that ran into problems

Oh we aren't having trouble, not at all. As soon as we finish asking them WTF is going on sales mysteriously appear by the dozen.

DWB · 02-15-2004, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks
the word is a lot of ppl are having a terrible Feb. with CCBill........that goes for rebills as well from what I hear.....

is this a first sign of trouble on the horizon for ccbill I wonder? its the same pattern as a lot of other processors that ran into problems

Amen. This has been a bad month so far with CCBILL.

Catalinas · 02-15-2004, 04:46 PM

Anyone know how long it takes for a sale to show up in your stats?

JDog · 02-15-2004, 04:47 PM

I haven't had any problems with CCBill, it's workin fine for us!

jDoG

xxxdesign-net · 02-15-2004, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Sorry if theres a similar topic already...

I just came back from holiday and my stats for the last 2.5 days show 2 sales with 15k clicks.

I heard from 2 program owners that affiliate sales dont show for them so i guess also not for me (the affiliate)

Anybody any answers?

chances are you have 2 sales for 7500 clicks... my clicks and ratio have doubled overnight ... (overall stats for the past 6 month)

Dirty F · 02-15-2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

chances are you have 2 sales for 7500 clicks... my clicks and ratio have doubled overnight ... (overall stats for the past 6 month)

It indeed does seem high...i normally dont send that much to ccbill but ive been submitting lately so the traffic goes up and down but indeed my first impression was that the traffic numbers werent correct.

Dirty F · 02-15-2004, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

chances are you have 2 sales for 7500 clicks... my clicks and ratio have doubled overnight ... (overall stats for the past 6 month)

And last week i was doing 1:800 with 36 sales so its pretty safe to say that 2:15000 is basically impossible 1 week later.

Bansheelinks · 02-15-2004, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss

And last week i was doing 1:800 with 36 sales so its pretty safe to say that 2:15000 is basically impossible 1 week later.

That is the definition of impossible......

any CB's lately? they'll scrub your ass raw after that, or I'd imagine if you were'nt in line of their 1% ratios.......either way, this seems like the signs of weird things going on

Dirty F · 02-15-2004, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks

That is the definition of impossible......

any CB's lately? they'll scrub your ass raw after that, or I'd imagine if you were'nt in line of their 1% ratios.......either way, this seems like the signs of weird things going on

Well as an affiliate i dont seem to have had any cb's lately, i dont think that has anything to do with the sales and weird stats.

Bansheelinks · 02-15-2004, 04:59 PM

you wanna bet?

Bansheelinks · 02-15-2004, 05:00 PM

CB's will = increased scrubbing rate

Dirty F · 02-15-2004, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks
you wanna bet?

What?

That i didnt have chargebacks and that my stats are fucked?

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 05:02 PM

been a fine month so far 1:500 ish with 75k clicks. For what its worth

Dirty F · 02-15-2004, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
been a fine month so far 1:500 ish with 75k clicks. For what its worth

Nothing odd going on the last 2 days?

Bansheelinks · 02-15-2004, 05:04 PM

no battus, I agree with you........nothing will explain that much of a discrepancy........but these billers will adjust their algorithms according to CB ratios.....or else they'd be out of biz fast.......

a precursor of the billers going tits up, like globilling or probillings cc division, is sales starting to drop like a piano falling as they scramble to stay under the mandated limits to avoid massive fines

Veterans Day · 02-15-2004, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss

Nothing odd going on the last 2 days?

Not that I see, they only issue I saw was for 1 night no referrering urls showed up. Other than that I have no clue as to any problems. Rebils are strong as fuck. Damn near 50% of new sales

jact · 02-15-2004, 05:08 PM

So a week later, CCBill are still not showing a single hit tracked to a program we promoted for 4 days.. Finally they suggested we start a new master account and re-signup to the program (Yeah, eat a loss on existing galleries out there, can't change em, they can't seem to fix the old account).. and guess what? Sales and clicks on the new account, but still nothing on the old

That really does not impress me, does not impress me in the least.

lurking · 02-15-2004, 05:12 PM

Tipsy · 02-15-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by jact
It's highly experimental, I can't say for sure which way it'll go, but it's worth giving it a try either way!

Thanks. Just to make sure I pissed in my own glass of water too. If it'll help with sales then I'm all for it.

Can't comment too much on the ccbill thing as I only push ccbill programs (that I know for sure are cbill) very lightly at the moment. No reason other than other stuff makes me good sales

KaLi · 02-15-2004, 06:04 PM

Yeah, the last few days have been wierd... On a sponsor ive been converting 1:200 at, the past couple days ive been making like 3 sales off 4,000 clicks. Seems odd...

Oracle Porn · 02-15-2004, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by KaLi
Yeah, the last few days have been wierd... On a sponsor ive been converting 1:200 at, the past couple days ive been making like 3 sales off 4,000 clicks. Seems odd...

GLAD TO SEE IM NOT THE ONLY ONE LOSING MONEY HERE! I'M GOING TO SUPA DUPA SCRUB...MY FLOOR THAT IS!

SoftGalleries · 02-15-2004, 06:06 PM

can we learn what sponsor are we talking about?

Oracle Porn · 02-15-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by SoftGalleries
can we learn what sponsor are we talking about?

idiotism is in the air!

KaLi · 02-15-2004, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Oracle Porn

GLAD TO SEE IM NOT THE ONLY ONE LOSING MONEY HERE! I'M GOING TO SUPA DUPA SCRUB...MY FLOOR THAT IS!

crazy huh

Bansheelinks · 02-15-2004, 06:47 PM

The thing that gets my antennae up for them is they don't seem to have an answer for this, or won't divulge it anyways........or perhaps won't admit to changing the algorithms to stay under certain CB levels over-all.

jact · 02-15-2004, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks
The thing that gets my antennae up for them is they don't seem to have an answer for this, or won't divulge it anyways........or perhaps won't admit to changing the algorithms to stay under certain CB levels over-all.

I've spoken with several sponsors that use CCBill and asked if their numbers are different lately.. They're seeing no big changes in conversions whatsoever. So what does that tell me? That tells me that we're sending hits and signups to our sponsors and are NOT GETTING CREDITED PROPERLY (This has been confirmed to us by conversations with CCBill in our case at least).

Bansheelinks · 02-15-2004, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by jact
I've spoken with several sponsors that use CCBill and asked if their numbers are different lately.. They're seeing no big changes in conversions whatsoever. So what does that tell me? That tells me that we're sending hits and signups to our sponsors and are NOT GETTING CREDITED PROPERLY (This has been confirmed to us by conversations with CCBill in our case at least).

holy fuck jact.............i'd be seeing red and pissing razor blades.......if they don't have proper answers for you, i'd boogie off

The Heron · 02-15-2004, 07:30 PM

My sales haven't been too bad, but I think ccbill changed something with click tracking because they are showing I'm sending nearly double the clicks I normally send and the amount of promotion I'm doing just doesn't justify this increase in clicks.

seven · 02-15-2004, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
And 2 program owners (fairly big) told me the affiliate sales werent showing today and yesterday so something is up for sure.

It's not today and yesterday. Owners are not seeing affiliate sales between 8th-14th Feb but affiliates in fact ARE seeing those sales. As cruel as it may sound but if any affiliate is not seeing sales that'd be cos he's not getting any sales plus remember yesterday was VALENTINE'S day=slow sales day. Soon enough it will be showing on owner's side too I believe. They have the correct datas but just not showing correctly. Happened before too.. prolly cos they are running on a comparatively new software. For me personally february is being a great month, few of my new ccbill sponsors are kicking ass too

DTK · 02-15-2004, 10:01 PM

buHump

xxxdesign-net · 02-15-2004, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by The Heron
but I think ccbill changed something with click tracking because they are showing I'm sending nearly double the clicks

they didnt changed anything.. thats an error... its not just a recent thing... I went from 1,250,000 clicks to 2,500,000 overnight (stats from past 6 months)

integrated · 02-15-2004, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

they didnt changed anything.. thats an error... its not just a recent thing... I went from 1,250,000 clicks to 2,500,000 overnight (stats from past 6 months)

it could happen maybe you got listed on google

chowda · 02-15-2004, 10:25 PM

like i said in other posts.

i cant convert on niche targeted search engine traffic all of last week.

cant convert at all

maybe i should get out and sell goats to croatia.

Nickless · 02-15-2004, 10:43 PM

same here, last week was terrible, rebills are normal though.

seven · 02-15-2004, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by integrated
it could happen maybe you got listed on google

or hitbotted

macker · 02-15-2004, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks
CB's will = increased scrubbing rate

That does seem to be the case I must say.

dimension_sys · 02-15-2004, 11:06 PM

If you're in "transactions" & clicks arent showing up, then hit "lookup" again and they should show up.

As far as stats being all messed up, it appears as if the different billing types are causing the mess. Click on billing types if you are in the transactions area to check it out. Dialer & N/A have the same amount of clicks, and are getting summed up causing incorrect ratios.

Harlot Cash · 02-16-2004, 12:17 AM

Ccbill have made a few reporting changes recently -
I have noticed this:
Each day's sales are correctly logged for both me and my affiliates. But when those figures are corried over to the next day, the affiliate sale do not show at all.
So it looks like a simple software reporting error - If the affiliate sales show in the beginning - they can't just be taken away (one would hope)

As for sales for this year - We have had many days 50% over average - some days as high as 300% over average and very few days under - (Average based on last 3 months of 2003) -

Ccbill do provide excellent support - There software in general is as good as the best out there and if scrubbing harder causes fewer cb's. then ain't that a good thing?

Dirty F · 02-16-2004, 02:20 AM

Ugh, i got like 5 icq messages while i was sleeping from people who have the same problem. Hits are suddenly doubled and sales dont seem to show.

My best ccbill sponsor where i send most my traffic is doing 1:12500 since a few days....thats the biggest bullshit ever and simply not possible. Im willing to bet 1k on it that this isnt correct. Either it shows more hits then i actually did sent or the sales dont show. But sponsor stats simply dontt jump from 1:500 for to 1:12500 in 3 days.

Kicker · 02-16-2004, 02:42 AM

The sales are rock this weekend with CCBill

body · 02-16-2004, 06:14 AM

you are not alone, sales are down with ccbill

CHMOD · 02-16-2004, 07:12 AM

Problems here too.

I got 1 sale yesterday. I usually get anywhere between 12 and 20 sales/day.

It is not an affiliate program. It is my own site.

I have just E-mailed them.

Jake · 02-16-2004, 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by CHMOD
Problems here too.

I got 1 sale yesterday. I usually get anywhere between 12 and 20 sales/day.

It is not an affiliate program. It is my own site.

I have just E-mailed them.

Stats for our site only registered "1" sale yesterday too. Not even close

I just got off the phone with CCBill and they said it's a "reporting error" that will be resloved today and you'll see your sales from yesterday as soon as it's fixed.

02-15-2004, 04:10 PM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Ok, whats up with ccbill? Sorry if theres a similar topic already... I just came back from holiday and my stats for the last 2.5 days show 2 sales with 15k clicks. I heard from 2 program owners that affiliate sales dont show for them so i guess also not for me (the affiliate) Anybody any answers?

02-15-2004, 04:12 PM	#2
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	Nothing is wrong with CCBill, it's the program's fault, your traffic sucks, your advertising methods suck, your dog pissed in its water bowl and that raised your ratios. I think those are similar to corvett's responses lately. __________________ Free agent

02-15-2004, 04:13 PM	#3
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Veterans Day Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Windy City Posts: 8,403	been a fine month so far 1:500 ish with 75k clicks. For what its worth __________________ Build a Massive Traffic Network, Hands FREE, Totally Automated

02-15-2004, 04:42 PM	#6
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	the word is a lot of ppl are having a terrible Feb. with CCBill........that goes for rebills as well from what I hear..... is this a first sign of trouble on the horizon for ccbill I wonder? its the same pattern as a lot of other processors that ran into problems

02-15-2004, 04:46 PM	#10
Catalinas Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 346	Anyone know how long it takes for a sale to show up in your stats?

02-15-2004, 04:59 PM	#17
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	you wanna bet?

02-15-2004, 05:00 PM	#18
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	CB's will = increased scrubbing rate

02-15-2004, 05:04 PM	#22
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	no battus, I agree with you........nothing will explain that much of a discrepancy........but these billers will adjust their algorithms according to CB ratios.....or else they'd be out of biz fast....... a precursor of the billers going tits up, like globilling or probillings cc division, is sales starting to drop like a piano falling as they scramble to stay under the mandated limits to avoid massive fines

02-15-2004, 05:08 PM	#24
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	So a week later, CCBill are still not showing a single hit tracked to a program we promoted for 4 days.. Finally they suggested we start a new master account and re-signup to the program (Yeah, eat a loss on existing galleries out there, can't change em, they can't seem to fix the old account).. and guess what? Sales and clicks on the new account, but still nothing on the old That really does not impress me, does not impress me in the least. __________________ Free agent

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KaLi Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lomita, CA Posts: 4,371	Yeah, the last few days have been wierd... On a sponsor ive been converting 1:200 at, the past couple days ive been making like 3 sales off 4,000 clicks. Seems odd... __________________ icq:160-417-630

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SoftGalleries Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: i am @ home.. Where are you? Posts: 247	can we learn what sponsor are we talking about? __________________ http://www.SoftGalleries.com

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Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	The thing that gets my antennae up for them is they don't seem to have an answer for this, or won't divulge it anyways........or perhaps won't admit to changing the algorithms to stay under certain CB levels over-all.

02-15-2004, 07:30 PM	#35
The Heron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,488	My sales haven't been too bad, but I think ccbill changed something with click tracking because they are showing I'm sending nearly double the clicks I normally send and the amount of promotion I'm doing just doesn't justify this increase in clicks.

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DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	buHump

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chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	like i said in other posts. i cant convert on niche targeted search engine traffic all of last week. cant convert at all maybe i should get out and sell goats to croatia. __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

02-15-2004, 10:43 PM	#41
Nickless Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: homeless Posts: 1,955	same here, last week was terrible, rebills are normal though.

02-15-2004, 11:06 PM	#44
dimension_sys Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1	If you're in "transactions" & clicks arent showing up, then hit "lookup" again and they should show up. As far as stats being all messed up, it appears as if the different billing types are causing the mess. Click on billing types if you are in the transactions area to check it out. Dialer & N/A have the same amount of clicks, and are getting summed up causing incorrect ratios.

02-16-2004, 12:17 AM	#45
Harlot Cash Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 117	Ccbill have made a few reporting changes recently - I have noticed this: Each day's sales are correctly logged for both me and my affiliates. But when those figures are corried over to the next day, the affiliate sale do not show at all. So it looks like a simple software reporting error - If the affiliate sales show in the beginning - they can't just be taken away (one would hope) As for sales for this year - We have had many days 50% over average - some days as high as 300% over average and very few days under - (Average based on last 3 months of 2003) - Ccbill do provide excellent support - There software in general is as good as the best out there and if scrubbing harder causes fewer cb's. then ain't that a good thing? __________________ Harlot Cash

02-16-2004, 02:20 AM	#46
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Ugh, i got like 5 icq messages while i was sleeping from people who have the same problem. Hits are suddenly doubled and sales dont seem to show. My best ccbill sponsor where i send most my traffic is doing 1:12500 since a few days....thats the biggest bullshit ever and simply not possible. Im willing to bet 1k on it that this isnt correct. Either it shows more hits then i actually did sent or the sales dont show. But sponsor stats simply dontt jump from 1:500 for to 1:12500 in 3 days.

02-16-2004, 02:42 AM	#47
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02-16-2004, 06:14 AM	#48
body Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5,012	you are not alone, sales are down with ccbill __________________ The Goddess Of Steps

02-16-2004, 07:12 AM	#49
CHMOD Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,697	Problems here too. I got 1 sale yesterday. I usually get anywhere between 12 and 20 sales/day. It is not an affiliate program. It is my own site. I have just E-mailed them.