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Dirty F 02-15-2004 04:10 PM

Ok, whats up with ccbill?
 
Sorry if theres a similar topic already...

I just came back from holiday and my stats for the last 2.5 days show 2 sales with 15k clicks.

I heard from 2 program owners that affiliate sales dont show for them so i guess also not for me (the affiliate)

Anybody any answers?

jact 02-15-2004 04:12 PM

Nothing is wrong with CCBill, it's the program's fault, your traffic sucks, your advertising methods suck, your dog pissed in its water bowl and that raised your ratios. I think those are similar to corvett's responses lately. :2 cents:

chrisp420 02-15-2004 04:13 PM

talk to covette he seems to be helpful :thumbsup

Tipsy 02-15-2004 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by jact
...your dog pissed in its water bowl and that raised your ratios.
Does that work for cats too? If so I may try it.

jact 02-15-2004 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Tipsy


Does that work for cats too? If so I may try it.

It's highly experimental, I can't say for sure which way it'll go, but it's worth giving it a try either way!

Bansheelinks 02-15-2004 04:42 PM

the word is a lot of ppl are having a terrible Feb. with CCBill........that goes for rebills as well from what I hear.....

is this a first sign of trouble on the horizon for ccbill I wonder? its the same pattern as a lot of other processors that ran into problems

Dirty F 02-15-2004 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
the word is a lot of ppl are having a terrible Feb. with CCBill........that goes for rebills as well from what I hear.....

is this a first sign of trouble on the horizon for ccbill I wonder? its the same pattern as a lot of other processors that ran into problems

Well i was perfectly fine till a few days ago...
And 2 program owners (fairly big) told me the affiliate sales werent showing today and yesterday so something is up for sure.

jact 02-15-2004 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
the word is a lot of ppl are having a terrible Feb. with CCBill........that goes for rebills as well from what I hear.....

is this a first sign of trouble on the horizon for ccbill I wonder? its the same pattern as a lot of other processors that ran into problems

Oh we aren't having trouble, not at all. As soon as we finish asking them WTF is going on sales mysteriously appear by the dozen. :1orglaugh

DWB 02-15-2004 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
the word is a lot of ppl are having a terrible Feb. with CCBill........that goes for rebills as well from what I hear.....

is this a first sign of trouble on the horizon for ccbill I wonder? its the same pattern as a lot of other processors that ran into problems

Amen. This has been a bad month so far with CCBILL.

Catalinas 02-15-2004 04:46 PM

Anyone know how long it takes for a sale to show up in your stats?

JDog 02-15-2004 04:47 PM

I haven't had any problems with CCBill, it's workin fine for us!

jDoG

xxxdesign-net 02-15-2004 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Sorry if theres a similar topic already...

I just came back from holiday and my stats for the last 2.5 days show 2 sales with 15k clicks.

I heard from 2 program owners that affiliate sales dont show for them so i guess also not for me (the affiliate)

Anybody any answers?

chances are you have 2 sales for 7500 clicks... my clicks and ratio have doubled overnight ... (overall stats for the past 6 month)

Dirty F 02-15-2004 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


chances are you have 2 sales for 7500 clicks... my clicks and ratio have doubled overnight ... (overall stats for the past 6 month)

It indeed does seem high...i normally dont send that much to ccbill but ive been submitting lately so the traffic goes up and down but indeed my first impression was that the traffic numbers werent correct.

Dirty F 02-15-2004 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


chances are you have 2 sales for 7500 clicks... my clicks and ratio have doubled overnight ... (overall stats for the past 6 month)

And last week i was doing 1:800 with 36 sales so its pretty safe to say that 2:15000 is basically impossible 1 week later.

Bansheelinks 02-15-2004 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss


And last week i was doing 1:800 with 36 sales so its pretty safe to say that 2:15000 is basically impossible 1 week later.

That is the definition of impossible......

any CB's lately? they'll scrub your ass raw after that, or I'd imagine if you were'nt in line of their 1% ratios.......either way, this seems like the signs of weird things going on

Dirty F 02-15-2004 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks


That is the definition of impossible......

any CB's lately? they'll scrub your ass raw after that, or I'd imagine if you were'nt in line of their 1% ratios.......either way, this seems like the signs of weird things going on

Well as an affiliate i dont seem to have had any cb's lately, i dont think that has anything to do with the sales and weird stats.

Bansheelinks 02-15-2004 04:59 PM

you wanna bet?

Bansheelinks 02-15-2004 05:00 PM

CB's will = increased scrubbing rate

Dirty F 02-15-2004 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks
you wanna bet?
What?

That i didnt have chargebacks and that my stats are fucked?

Veterans Day 02-15-2004 05:02 PM

been a fine month so far 1:500 ish with 75k clicks. For what its worth:2 cents:

Dirty F 02-15-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
been a fine month so far 1:500 ish with 75k clicks. For what its worth:2 cents:
Nothing odd going on the last 2 days?

Bansheelinks 02-15-2004 05:04 PM

no battus, I agree with you........nothing will explain that much of a discrepancy........but these billers will adjust their algorithms according to CB ratios.....or else they'd be out of biz fast.......

a precursor of the billers going tits up, like globilling or probillings cc division, is sales starting to drop like a piano falling as they scramble to stay under the mandated limits to avoid massive fines

Veterans Day 02-15-2004 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss


Nothing odd going on the last 2 days?

Not that I see, they only issue I saw was for 1 night no referrering urls showed up. Other than that I have no clue as to any problems. Rebils are strong as fuck. Damn near 50% of new sales:2 cents:

jact 02-15-2004 05:08 PM

So a week later, CCBill are still not showing a single hit tracked to a program we promoted for 4 days.. Finally they suggested we start a new master account and re-signup to the program (Yeah, eat a loss on existing galleries out there, can't change em, they can't seem to fix the old account).. and guess what? Sales and clicks on the new account, but still nothing on the old :(

That really does not impress me, does not impress me in the least.

lurking 02-15-2004 05:12 PM

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Tipsy 02-15-2004 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by jact
It's highly experimental, I can't say for sure which way it'll go, but it's worth giving it a try either way!
Thanks. Just to make sure I pissed in my own glass of water too. If it'll help with sales then I'm all for it.

Can't comment too much on the ccbill thing as I only push ccbill programs (that I know for sure are cbill) very lightly at the moment. No reason other than other stuff makes me good sales :)

KaLi 02-15-2004 06:04 PM

Yeah, the last few days have been wierd... On a sponsor ive been converting 1:200 at, the past couple days ive been making like 3 sales off 4,000 clicks. Seems odd...

Oracle Porn 02-15-2004 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by KaLi
Yeah, the last few days have been wierd... On a sponsor ive been converting 1:200 at, the past couple days ive been making like 3 sales off 4,000 clicks. Seems odd...
GLAD TO SEE IM NOT THE ONLY ONE LOSING MONEY HERE! I'M GOING TO SUPA DUPA SCRUB...MY FLOOR THAT IS!

SoftGalleries 02-15-2004 06:06 PM

can we learn what sponsor are we talking about?

Oracle Porn 02-15-2004 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by SoftGalleries
can we learn what sponsor are we talking about?
idiotism is in the air!

KaLi 02-15-2004 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn


GLAD TO SEE IM NOT THE ONLY ONE LOSING MONEY HERE! I'M GOING TO SUPA DUPA SCRUB...MY FLOOR THAT IS!

crazy huh :winkwink:

Bansheelinks 02-15-2004 06:47 PM

The thing that gets my antennae up for them is they don't seem to have an answer for this, or won't divulge it anyways........or perhaps won't admit to changing the algorithms to stay under certain CB levels over-all.

jact 02-15-2004 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Bansheelinks
The thing that gets my antennae up for them is they don't seem to have an answer for this, or won't divulge it anyways........or perhaps won't admit to changing the algorithms to stay under certain CB levels over-all.
I've spoken with several sponsors that use CCBill and asked if their numbers are different lately.. They're seeing no big changes in conversions whatsoever. So what does that tell me? That tells me that we're sending hits and signups to our sponsors and are NOT GETTING CREDITED PROPERLY (This has been confirmed to us by conversations with CCBill in our case at least).

Bansheelinks 02-15-2004 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
I've spoken with several sponsors that use CCBill and asked if their numbers are different lately.. They're seeing no big changes in conversions whatsoever. So what does that tell me? That tells me that we're sending hits and signups to our sponsors and are NOT GETTING CREDITED PROPERLY (This has been confirmed to us by conversations with CCBill in our case at least).
holy fuck jact.............i'd be seeing red and pissing razor blades.......if they don't have proper answers for you, i'd boogie off

The Heron 02-15-2004 07:30 PM

My sales haven't been too bad, but I think ccbill changed something with click tracking because they are showing I'm sending nearly double the clicks I normally send and the amount of promotion I'm doing just doesn't justify this increase in clicks.

seven 02-15-2004 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
And 2 program owners (fairly big) told me the affiliate sales werent showing today and yesterday so something is up for sure.
It's not today and yesterday. Owners are not seeing affiliate sales between 8th-14th Feb but affiliates in fact ARE seeing those sales. As cruel as it may sound but if any affiliate is not seeing sales that'd be cos he's not getting any sales plus remember yesterday was VALENTINE'S day=slow sales day. Soon enough it will be showing on owner's side too I believe. They have the correct datas but just not showing correctly. Happened before too.. prolly cos they are running on a comparatively new software. For me personally february is being a great month, few of my new ccbill sponsors are kicking ass too :thumbsup

DTK 02-15-2004 10:01 PM

buHump

xxxdesign-net 02-15-2004 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Heron
but I think ccbill changed something with click tracking because they are showing I'm sending nearly double the clicks
they didnt changed anything.. thats an error... its not just a recent thing... I went from 1,250,000 clicks to 2,500,000 overnight (stats from past 6 months)

integrated 02-15-2004 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


they didnt changed anything.. thats an error... its not just a recent thing... I went from 1,250,000 clicks to 2,500,000 overnight (stats from past 6 months)

it could happen maybe you got listed on google

chowda 02-15-2004 10:25 PM

like i said in other posts.

i cant convert on niche targeted search engine traffic all of last week.

cant convert at all

maybe i should get out and sell goats to croatia.

Nickless 02-15-2004 10:43 PM

same here, last week was terrible, rebills are normal though.

seven 02-15-2004 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by integrated
it could happen maybe you got listed on google
or hitbotted :Oh crap

macker 02-15-2004 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
CB's will = increased scrubbing rate
That does seem to be the case I must say.

dimension_sys 02-15-2004 11:06 PM

If you're in "transactions" & clicks arent showing up, then hit "lookup" again and they should show up.

As far as stats being all messed up, it appears as if the different billing types are causing the mess. Click on billing types if you are in the transactions area to check it out. Dialer & N/A have the same amount of clicks, and are getting summed up causing incorrect ratios.

Harlot Cash 02-16-2004 12:17 AM

Ccbill have made a few reporting changes recently -
I have noticed this:
Each day's sales are correctly logged for both me and my affiliates. But when those figures are corried over to the next day, the affiliate sale do not show at all.
So it looks like a simple software reporting error - If the affiliate sales show in the beginning - they can't just be taken away (one would hope)

As for sales for this year - We have had many days 50% over average - some days as high as 300% over average and very few days under - (Average based on last 3 months of 2003) -

Ccbill do provide excellent support - There software in general is as good as the best out there and if scrubbing harder causes fewer cb's. then ain't that a good thing?

Dirty F 02-16-2004 02:20 AM

Ugh, i got like 5 icq messages while i was sleeping from people who have the same problem. Hits are suddenly doubled and sales dont seem to show.

My best ccbill sponsor where i send most my traffic is doing 1:12500 since a few days....thats the biggest bullshit ever and simply not possible. Im willing to bet 1k on it that this isnt correct. Either it shows more hits then i actually did sent or the sales dont show. But sponsor stats simply dontt jump from 1:500 for to 1:12500 in 3 days.

Kicker 02-16-2004 02:42 AM

The sales are rock this weekend with CCBill

body 02-16-2004 06:14 AM

you are not alone, sales are down with ccbill

CHMOD 02-16-2004 07:12 AM

Problems here too.

I got 1 sale yesterday. I usually get anywhere between 12 and 20 sales/day.

It is not an affiliate program. It is my own site.

I have just E-mailed them.

Jake 02-16-2004 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by CHMOD
Problems here too.

I got 1 sale yesterday. I usually get anywhere between 12 and 20 sales/day.

It is not an affiliate program. It is my own site.

I have just E-mailed them.

Stats for our site only registered "1" sale yesterday too. Not even close :) I just got off the phone with CCBill and they said it's a "reporting error" that will be resloved today and you'll see your sales from yesterday as soon as it's fixed.


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