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Old 07-11-2003, 12:16 PM   #1
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do you really think there will be better days for this industry ?

I see most webmasters complaining about the new Visa regulations and their impact, but a few people suggest that the new rules will cause that scammers leave the industry, members areas will improve, surfers won't be longer screwed over and in consequence they will join more often and stay longer again...
anyone really believe in this scenario ?
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:23 PM   #2
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Like all industries this one has now left the wild days of the pioneers and will now become brutally competitive.

Those with good business models will survive, some will be acquired and many will fail.

The only constant is change
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:24 PM   #3
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i believe this will happen

the big ones will improve on their sites.. keeping their sites low at .something %.

more free porn will be out there to spam since webmasters wont be making as much money like b4

some of the sites that will be past the !% will fuck over webmasters since their money will be frozen. They will open new cc accounts and probably start all over again.
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:25 PM   #4
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If you are a sharp marketer and can dance around obstacles you will always do well no matter what.
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:27 PM   #5
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If you are a sharp marketer and can dance around obstacles you will always do well no matter what.
no laughin, but having a tgp wouldnt be bad.
ur a middleman, thats it. its the program owners that have to sweat out these details.
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:30 PM   #6
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no laughin, but having a tgp wouldnt be bad.
ur a middleman, thats it. its the program owners that have to sweat out these details.
Until the program owners start lowering payouts.
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:31 PM   #7
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It's all in how you look at things. As a whole, the industry makes less as they are forced to charge less. The generic pay sites will probably not retain as much as niched out sites that update daily.

So, original content will be the key, in my opinion. $19.95 monthly billings, no cross sells. Provide the best service you can and hope you get 3 to 6 months re-occurring.

Give your marketers free content for your program. The old, simple days might be back.

I helped Busty-Amateurs back in the day with this concept and they kicked ass, made a killing.

Anyone want to acquire Busty-Amatuers.com from me? I still own it.

Honest services with lowered pricing, daily updates and big back ends.

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Old 07-11-2003, 12:34 PM   #8
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I wrote this awhile ago and posted it here, guess I'll do it again:

Everyday a bunch of girls will turn 18 - and be looking for a legal, easy, lucrative, escape from the trailer park, and every day - men will wake up with an erection and need to jerk off. I am just a messenger... as long as everyone is of age, coherent in thier decisions, and obeys all the laws, everything will be OK.

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Old 07-11-2003, 12:36 PM   #9
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I wrote this awhile ago and posted it here, guess I'll do it again:

Everyday a bunch of girls will turn 18 - and be looking for a legal, easy, lucrative, escape from the trailer park, and every day - men will wake up with an erection and need to jerk off. I am just a messenger... as long as everyone is of age, coherent in thier decisions, and obeys all the laws, everything will be OK.

Peter Romero
yeah. but how are u going to deliver that material ?
how are u going to deliver it and getting paid for it?
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:38 PM   #10
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Until the program owners start lowering payouts.
they would lower payouts.

i can see now that there wont be recurring anymore as well

so u get 50% of a 30bux sales. thats it.. thats how they are gonna fuck us
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:38 PM   #11
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Business has peaked, but there is still more $ to be made here than anything else I can do at the moment.
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:40 PM   #12
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Business has peaked, but there is still more $ to be made here than anything else I can do at the moment.
You could also be a fisherman I hear.
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:42 PM   #13
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I wrote this awhile ago and posted it here, guess I'll do it again:

Everyday a bunch of girls will turn 18 - and be looking for a legal, easy, lucrative, escape from the trailer park, and every day - men will wake up with an erection and need to jerk off. I am just a messenger... as long as everyone is of age, coherent in thier decisions, and obeys all the laws, everything will be OK.

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Well said and always appliccable

As for no recurring chowda, who the hell are you getting that from?
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:48 PM   #14
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Well said and always appliccable

As for no recurring chowda, who the hell are you getting that from?
no, im not getting it from anywhere, but im saying is that i can see that happening. Imagine u forgot u had an account with a paysite.. ur gonna charge it back..

why wouldnt visa take that step to screw us? it will lower chargebacks for sure.
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:55 PM   #15
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if there's a partnership program that has the right conversion & retention and is honest to its members and thus having a low cb rate, I don't see any problems in sending traffic to them...
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:57 PM   #16
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You could also be a fisherman I hear.

D$, if I could make millions fishing, I would, trust me. But my business fishing model first requires a nice bass boat, which I am saving my ars points for.
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