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Marc De · 05-04-2003, 07:14 PM

Hey guys, I'm pretty damn excited... Only 2 more months and its on the shelves of Comp USA, Best Buy, Electronic Boutiques, Game Stop, Babbages, and more!

Most recent review - http://www.gamespy.com

TDF · 05-04-2003, 07:15 PM

marc d would u contact me on icq plz? 33176397

ry0t · 05-04-2003, 07:17 PM

Damn well at least you enjoy it. Both Savage - The Battle for Newerth and Savage Skies look kind of crappy to me.

WiredGuy · 05-04-2003, 07:19 PM

Looks like a cool game, I've been trying to avoid games lately, too addictive.

WG

bogo · 05-04-2003, 07:23 PM

looks great,
congrats marc

Marc De · 05-04-2003, 08:35 PM

ry0t - thankfully for us you are in the major minority. We've been getting much anticipated previews and our beta testers are going nuts over the game.

We should peel off a good $25 million off this game

The video game industry is HUGE!

Mutt · 05-04-2003, 08:47 PM

how many units does a popular video game sell? what is the avg wholesale price the manufacturer gets from distributors?

and what are the average development costs of a video game?

is it for PC only or will it also be a Playstation and XBox game?

i know shit about videogames, bowed out of it all before the 32 and 64 bit consoles came out.

Hardcore J · 05-04-2003, 08:50 PM

So all of your ARS webmasters will be getting a free copy of the game, right?

Hardcore J · 05-04-2003, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
marc d would u contact me on icq plz? 33176397

Good luck!

TDF · 05-04-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Hardcore J

Good luck!

im just a tadpole...

Mr. Marks · 05-04-2003, 08:57 PM

Looks good, Marc.

$tandaman · 05-05-2003, 05:34 AM

Congrats Marc! it's been long time coming...

KRL · 05-05-2003, 05:46 AM

Wow! Awesome Marc!

That'll get you the Hockey Team!

Pornwolf · 05-05-2003, 05:51 AM

Very nice! I like the premise of he game. You may make me kill a good 30 to 40 productive hours that should have been spent working!

Good luck!

kmanrox · 05-05-2003, 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Very nice! I like the premise of he game. You may make me kill a good 30 to 40 productive hours that should have been spent working!

Good luck!

it's just mark trying to keep us down, we're growing too strong... FIGHT THE POWER!!!

;-)

ADL Colin · 05-05-2003, 06:45 AM

Marc,

That's awesome.

Hope you guys kick-ass with this and I hope you whup-ass on that $25 million. :-)

Marc De · 05-05-2003, 07:13 AM

Well the sales figure is assuming we become a 'mainstream' title in the PC realm, but VERY obtainable (sorry wasn't trying to brag, hope it didn't come off that way).

Thanks for all the congrats guys and I actually think that sounds like a good promotion. All 'active' ARS webmasters will get a free copy! You bet... Hold me to it.

Mutt, I own the company that is publishing the title (iGames which also owns HappyPuppy.com). This is a major advantage to me. In marketing and production we'll have $3,000,000 invested. Retail is $49.99 and wholesale is $34 (our cut). To become an elite PC title you need to sell 1.5 million copies, huge seller 1 million, pretty strong seller 500,000, just made it to market and tried to break even 200,000 (still profitable). There are other costs associated with the sale that are taken from the $34 wholesale (production is usually $3 per unit, freight is about $0.50 per unit, and the big one MDF or Market Development Funds which you spend with stores like EB, GameStop, Best Buy, etc...)

We've got 2 development firms we are signing at E3 which are console. The good thing about console is a great game will sell 3-4 million copies. Its a MUCH bigger market and therefore you should expect much more sales (especially since the competition is just slighter higher than PC).

Mutt · 05-05-2003, 07:35 AM

no Marc, i wasn't putting you down for bragging, i like to see porn guys make it in mainstream. I am just curious how the video game industry works, had no idea about what kind of numbers were involved, development/manufacturing costs vs potential revenues.

sounds lucrative, it's like the movie business, a bomb can sink a small company, a hit can make you rich.

MDF or Market Development Funds <---------- is this like in the grocery store biz where you have to pay big retailers big $$$ to get prime shelf space?

best of luck

Mr Pheer · 05-05-2003, 07:49 AM

Marc, is this game built on the Q3 engine?

I'm planning on starting my own game company within the next year here in Vegas.

05-05-2003, 09:03 AM

weren't you guys responsible for HalfLife?

KRL · 05-05-2003, 09:53 AM

Holy Kamoli! I just looked at Savage in depth on iGames.

Marc, that will be an astronomically huge seller. Great concept with the Primal theme. Refreshing from all the star wars type stuff in the market. Your graphics are gorgeous.

$$$$$ ABSOLUTE HIT! $$$$$

Don't need to say Good Luck with that, you're already there!

Marc De · 05-05-2003, 09:56 AM

MrPheer - funny we are moving S2 Games offices from San Franscico to Las Vegas in September.

The game is built on a propietary engine we developed in house called the Silverback Engine. Its truly amazing and we will have leasing opportunities, so if you are looking to make a game, talk to us. Also, we could help you with the pubslishing aspects.

Mutt - I didn't think you were dogging me

Cuz we both know, if it does bomb, I'm out $3,000,000. However, I think we will easily sell 250,000 and look to hit 600,000 units sold. We will also be the first game to upgrade from the available FREE Test version of the game to retail through our automated patch software and credit card processing network. We're bringing a bit of our adult experience to the online gaming world!

Anna_O · 05-05-2003, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marc De

Thanks for all the congrats guys and I actually think that sounds like a good promotion. All 'active' ARS webmasters will get a free copy! You bet... Hold me to it.

European webmasters too?

I think this thread needs to be bookmarked....

Marc De · 05-05-2003, 10:03 AM

KRL - thanks a bunch!

Those we want to read about the game, the gamespy review is at http://www.gamespy.com/previews/may03/savagepc/

S2 Site / Savage Site - http://www.s2games.com
iGames (Publisher Site) - http://www.igames.com

Anna - hold it to me, I'm serious! You'll see something at ARS about it in a couple of months...

DrGuile · 05-05-2003, 10:46 AM

I got into the Beta (thanks Marc) and the game plays great even at this stage.

It will be a killer game for LAN parties and organized clan. might be a little less interesting for casual gamers because of the need for team work.

But eh, look at Counter-Strike, even 100 of thousands of dumbass 13 year old keyboard warriors didnt succeed in keeping it down ;p

Even if it doesnt sell (but I think it will), its a major game with a very innovative design. Its a good thing ;)

PimpRoll · 05-05-2003, 09:14 PM

the game looks amazing, i'm hooked on 1942 but Savage seems to be right up my alley!!

05-04-2003, 07:14 PM	#1
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	Savage - That Is My Game :) Hey guys, I'm pretty damn excited... Only 2 more months and its on the shelves of Comp USA, Best Buy, Electronic Boutiques, Game Stop, Babbages, and more! Most recent review - http://www.gamespy.com

05-04-2003, 07:15 PM	#2
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	marc d would u contact me on icq plz? 33176397 __________________ Sig heil

05-04-2003, 07:19 PM	#4
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	Looks like a cool game, I've been trying to avoid games lately, too addictive. WG __________________ I play with Google.

05-04-2003, 08:47 PM	#7
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	how many units does a popular video game sell? what is the avg wholesale price the manufacturer gets from distributors? and what are the average development costs of a video game? is it for PC only or will it also be a Playstation and XBox game? i know shit about videogames, bowed out of it all before the 32 and 64 bit consoles came out. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-05-2003, 05:34 AM	#12
$tandaman Pimping 8EZ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,529	Congrats Marc! it's been long time coming... __________________ CentroProfits.com - Make money with 3000+ Models! ModelCentro.com - Multiple award winning hosted CMS designed to run solo model sites, with affiliate program built in. Launch your model site in 24 hrs or less! FanCentro.com - Premium social network for SWs & Fans!

05-04-2003, 07:17 PM	#3
ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	Damn well at least you enjoy it. Both Savage - The Battle for Newerth and Savage Skies look kind of crappy to me.

05-04-2003, 07:23 PM	#5
bogo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,982	looks great, congrats marc

05-04-2003, 08:35 PM	#6
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	ry0t - thankfully for us you are in the major minority. We've been getting much anticipated previews and our beta testers are going nuts over the game. We should peel off a good $25 million off this game The video game industry is HUGE!

05-04-2003, 08:50 PM	#8
Hardcore J Hardcore 4 Life™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,553	So all of your ARS webmasters will be getting a free copy of the game, right?

05-04-2003, 08:57 PM	#11
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Looks good, Marc.

05-05-2003, 05:46 AM	#13
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Wow! Awesome Marc! That'll get you the Hockey Team! __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-05-2003, 05:51 AM	#14
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Very nice! I like the premise of he game. You may make me kill a good 30 to 40 productive hours that should have been spent working! Good luck! __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

05-05-2003, 06:45 AM	#16
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Marc, That's awesome. Hope you guys kick-ass with this and I hope you whup-ass on that $25 million. :-) __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

05-05-2003, 07:13 AM	#17
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	Well the sales figure is assuming we become a 'mainstream' title in the PC realm, but VERY obtainable (sorry wasn't trying to brag, hope it didn't come off that way). Thanks for all the congrats guys and I actually think that sounds like a good promotion. All 'active' ARS webmasters will get a free copy! You bet... Hold me to it. Mutt, I own the company that is publishing the title (iGames which also owns HappyPuppy.com). This is a major advantage to me. In marketing and production we'll have $3,000,000 invested. Retail is $49.99 and wholesale is $34 (our cut). To become an elite PC title you need to sell 1.5 million copies, huge seller 1 million, pretty strong seller 500,000, just made it to market and tried to break even 200,000 (still profitable). There are other costs associated with the sale that are taken from the $34 wholesale (production is usually $3 per unit, freight is about $0.50 per unit, and the big one MDF or Market Development Funds which you spend with stores like EB, GameStop, Best Buy, etc...) We've got 2 development firms we are signing at E3 which are console. The good thing about console is a great game will sell 3-4 million copies. Its a MUCH bigger market and therefore you should expect much more sales (especially since the competition is just slighter higher than PC).

05-05-2003, 07:35 AM	#18
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	no Marc, i wasn't putting you down for bragging, i like to see porn guys make it in mainstream. I am just curious how the video game industry works, had no idea about what kind of numbers were involved, development/manufacturing costs vs potential revenues. sounds lucrative, it's like the movie business, a bomb can sink a small company, a hit can make you rich. MDF or Market Development Funds <---------- is this like in the grocery store biz where you have to pay big retailers big $$$ to get prime shelf space? best of luck __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-05-2003, 07:49 AM	#19
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,264	Marc, is this game built on the Q3 engine? I'm planning on starting my own game company within the next year here in Vegas. __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

05-05-2003, 09:03 AM	#20
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	weren't you guys responsible for HalfLife?

05-05-2003, 09:53 AM	#21
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Holy Kamoli! I just looked at Savage in depth on iGames. Marc, that will be an astronomically huge seller. Great concept with the Primal theme. Refreshing from all the star wars type stuff in the market. Your graphics are gorgeous. $$$$$ ABSOLUTE HIT! $$$$$ Don't need to say Good Luck with that, you're already there! __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-05-2003, 09:56 AM	#22
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	MrPheer - funny we are moving S2 Games offices from San Franscico to Las Vegas in September. The game is built on a propietary engine we developed in house called the Silverback Engine. Its truly amazing and we will have leasing opportunities, so if you are looking to make a game, talk to us. Also, we could help you with the pubslishing aspects. Mutt - I didn't think you were dogging me Cuz we both know, if it does bomb, I'm out $3,000,000. However, I think we will easily sell 250,000 and look to hit 600,000 units sold. We will also be the first game to upgrade from the available FREE Test version of the game to retail through our automated patch software and credit card processing network. We're bringing a bit of our adult experience to the online gaming world!

05-05-2003, 10:03 AM	#24
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	KRL - thanks a bunch! Those we want to read about the game, the gamespy review is at http://www.gamespy.com/previews/may03/savagepc/ S2 Site / Savage Site - http://www.s2games.com iGames (Publisher Site) - http://www.igames.com Anna - hold it to me, I'm serious! You'll see something at ARS about it in a couple of months...

05-05-2003, 10:46 AM	#25
DrGuile Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,025	I got into the Beta (thanks Marc) and the game plays great even at this stage. It will be a killer game for LAN parties and organized clan. might be a little less interesting for casual gamers because of the need for team work. But eh, look at Counter-Strike, even 100 of thousands of dumbass 13 year old keyboard warriors didnt succeed in keeping it down ;p Even if it doesnt sell (but I think it will), its a major game with a very innovative design. Its a good thing ;) __________________ LiveBucks / Privatefeeds - Giving you money since 1999 Up to 50% Commission! 25% Webmaster Referal Powered by Gamma

05-05-2003, 09:14 PM	#26
PimpRoll Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PimpRoll Posts: 1,053	the game looks amazing, i'm hooked on 1942 but Savage seems to be right up my alley!! __________________ www.PimpRoll.com - $35-$40 per Trial Join - Weekly Payouts Over 200+ Sites to Promote in 30 Niches - Free Hosting