Account Terminated... again. - GoFuckYourself.com

Pornfreak · 04-02-2003, 08:58 PM

It always amazes me how many of these affiliate programs handle issues with their promoters (me). Totally unprofessional.

I know it is hard for a lot of you program managers to believe this, but there are legitmate people out there who can make phenomenal conversion ratios. Yeah, they might be few and far between, but when I sign up for an affiliate program, I consider myself your employee/salesman. And I exepect to be treated like your employee/salesman. Is it that fucking hard? I am not even asking for benefits! I get sales for you and you pay me, simple enough.

So, where does it state that you can treat me like a piece of shit after I just spent 30 hours designing a nice site to promote your sites, only to get slapped in the face when I try to login into my account a week later and get -- Account Terminated.

WTF!

If you can't treat your promoters/employees with respect, then don't let anyone signup to promote your sites, do it yourself. All I ask is that you let me know that there is something strange going on with my account and you want me to explain. I will respond as most who are honest will. Create a fucking template if you get a lot of suspicious accounts like this! Those who are really cheating will not respond. I will!

Out of 4 of my accounts, with different affiliates, that have been terminated so far, only 1 has treated me with respect. And I respect them even more for that. They didn't just shut my account down, they let the stats still run while being under investigation. 2 were reactivated after my explanation, and 1 is just shut off or so called terminated, because it just happened, hence this rant.

Pornfreak

Pipecrew · 04-02-2003, 09:01 PM

Dont spam?

You may be a little slow as to catching on, If 4 companies have termed you for your traffic, maybee it isnt allowed?

although i am sure some hardup company will post in this thread asking you to contact them

xanx · 04-02-2003, 09:02 PM

I have to ask, so what are you doing to be terminated ? I treat all my partners as that, partners. So I'm just curious as to why you are pissing people off.

asuna · 04-02-2003, 09:02 PM

Follow the rules?
did they give you a reason why you were banned>?

mule · 04-02-2003, 09:05 PM

LOL
I've never been terminated...I guess I read the TOS when I sign up

TheJimmy · 04-02-2003, 09:05 PM

suggestion...

get approval to 'aggressively market' before doing it...

nofx · 04-02-2003, 09:05 PM

what sponsor(s) killed your account?

Pornfreak · 04-02-2003, 09:05 PM

Believe me guys, I always read the rules! I go through the terms & conditions with a fine tooth comb to avoid this. I do not ever SPAM, cheat or anything of the sort. I just know how to convert. It is plain and simple.

I just want to be respected.

Pornfreak

asuna · 04-02-2003, 09:06 PM

You also said it's 4 other sponsors.. how are you getting signups exactly?

mule · 04-02-2003, 09:07 PM

So what were you terminated for?

WiredGuy · 04-02-2003, 09:08 PM

If you have amazing conversions and they are legitimate, it's their fault for terminating you, they should be checking the amount of chargebacks/cancels not your conversions.

WG

asuna · 04-02-2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mule
So what were you terminated for?

nice sig

Pornfreak · 04-02-2003, 09:14 PM

August '02 - SilverCash - just down right shut my account down - Was reactivated.

Jan '03 - Hawg's Cash - Just down right shut my account down - Was reactivated.

March '03 - SIC Cash - Just stop paying me and started an investigation, but still letting me in to check stats - still pending reactivation

Apr '03 - WEG Cash - tonight just shut down my account with Account Terminated/Authorities notified

Authorities Notfied of what? What did I do?

Pornfreak

xanx · 04-02-2003, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornfreak
Believe me guys, I always read the rules! I go through the terms & conditions with a fine tooth comb to avoid this. I do not ever SPAM, cheat or anything of the sort. I just know how to convert. It is plain and simple.

I just want to be respected.

Pornfreak

Ok, well I'll tell you what. Signup to market our site and I'll see how you do and come back to GFY and report if your an ok guy

asuna · 04-02-2003, 09:19 PM

read all the posts.. people are asking how your making your sign ups, or what are the exact reasons of termination..

Pornfreak · 04-02-2003, 09:21 PM

Quote:

You also said it's 4 other sponsors.. how are you getting signups exactly?

Can't say... but I tell you it is totally legit. I have sponsors that understand an accept. And as you can see from above, once the programs see, they understand it is alright or I would have not been reactivated.

Pornfreak

mule · 04-02-2003, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornfreak

Can't say... but I tell you it is totally legit. I have sponsors that understand an accept. And as you can see from above, once the programs see, they understand it is alright or I would have not been reactivated.

Pornfreak

LOL

Pornfreak · 04-02-2003, 09:24 PM

Quote:

people are asking how your making your sign ups, or what are the exact reasons of termination..

I would be an idiot if I told you how exactly.

The reasons for termination have always been, conversion ratios are too low.

Pornfreak

phogirl69 · 04-02-2003, 09:26 PM

Probably SE Spam or making your own tours and linking directly to the join page. Sponsors should have no problem with SE spam thou, they just might get suspicious if ratios are too good.

mule · 04-02-2003, 09:26 PM

I guess you're sending shitloads of Chinese traffic or something like that, then

Rictor · 04-02-2003, 09:26 PM

Account canceled because your ratios are too good? Are there a bunch of charge backs? Spam complaints. That doesn't make any sense.

Muff · 04-02-2003, 09:29 PM

PornFreaks an SE guru from what I can see. And builds a might good surfer trap

Pornfreak · 04-02-2003, 09:30 PM

Quote:

... they just might get suspicious if ratios are too good

This is what I am saying. Does this warrant them to shut down my account without asking me first. That is totally unprofessional. Ask first then, make your decision.

Example:

Hi Pornfreak,
We have noticed that the conversion ratios on your site have been really good, would you care to explain why this is happening?

Boy that is hard to do.

Pornfreak

phogirl69 · 04-02-2003, 09:32 PM

Pornfreak ,are you the same dude as Hornyfreak?

If so I've seen u around in google, good job

Pornfreak · 04-02-2003, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Pornfreak ,are you the same dude as Hornyfreak?

No.

Enough said. I am tired. Going to bed, end of discussion.

gregtx · 04-02-2003, 09:35 PM

Pornfreak...

If you e-mail me, I will personally check on the status of your account. Understand that we are notified directly from our primary CC processor.. that they are seeing "unusual" activity.. . ie: unusually low conversions, similar ips, and emails....

since we pay out weekly... we then put the account on hold for further review.... IF in fact.... the signups "check out"... we will reopen the account...and pay all legitimate funds and for any signups during the suspension... If the signups are fraudulent.. meaning excessive credits/chargebacks... mulitiple signups from the same ips and emails.. with patterned cancels... we do not get paid... plus we get charged a penalty fee... so yes.. you will most likely get frauded...

again... if you would contact me I would be more than happy to personally look through your account.

I will personlly be on my way to phoenix in the morning.. but I will get back to you ...asap...

in closing... I promote a very open communication with all of my accounts... if you have any questions... you can reach me easily via icq or e-mail... if indeed you are legit... we will pay.. always have always will... maybe i shouldn't have posted this as I prolly just encouraged.. whiners post on gfy...lol

cheers anyway
greg

nofx · 04-02-2003, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornfreak
Apr '03 - WEG Cash - tonight just shut down my account with Account Terminated/Authorities notified

you prob been promoting the child porn too much.

rdunn404 · 04-02-2003, 09:36 PM

Sounds like Pornfreak needs to start his own program and direct all his traffic to it. Hopefully he won't terminate himself!

kinetic · 04-02-2003, 09:36 PM

This is to damn weird... 4 Major Sponsors have been closing your account ... (if it's not spam... then it's obvious we are talking about CREDIT CARD FRAUD ) ... that's the explanation for " AUTHORITIES NOTICED" or whatever that sponsor wrote you..Maybe there is someone outthere hating your guts... and makes stupid fake sign ups using your links.. ( he prolly knows where to find them, - on your site/s ofcourse ) , in that case I would advice you to start over with new domain/s and site/s , but this time be more carefull and if that faggot exits don't let him get your links again.The same shit happen to me a few months ago and I had no other choice but to start over..and now I am doing pretty well.
Don't rely on the ideea that the sponsors are fucked up.. think about it, those are big companies that pay every time, as long as you don't brake the rules.It's just my opinion.Anyway , good luck.

WiredGuy · 04-02-2003, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gregtx
I will personlly be on my way to phoenix in the morning.. but I will get back to you ...asap...

cheers anyway
greg

See you tomorrow Greg!
WG

jake2000xp · 04-02-2003, 09:49 PM

Greg, I will tell you what, I will sign up for your program for the sole reason, that is the most straight forward response I have heard on this board yet from a sponser.

That's not to take away from others, but way to stand behind your product.

tony286 · 04-02-2003, 09:59 PM

This is why I am scared shitless when it comes to starting a affiliate program. Someone does a bunch of fraud charges(I am not saying you Pornfreak), too many charge backs and I lose my processing. Way scary lol.

Rich · 04-02-2003, 10:07 PM

What are you conversion rates like? 1:10?

tony286 · 04-02-2003, 10:13 PM

Now I dont understand if he has a low conversion rate because he is a guru and he isnt getting alot of chargebacks or cancels. Why freeze his account?Is someone tracking this or is it a program that automatically shuts it off when certain numbers are hit. If he worked for me I would have him over for dinner every Sunday lol.

jake2000xp · 04-02-2003, 10:28 PM

You guy's have overlooked the fact in may be a per email sign up or per click, or other trial sign up conversion. Sponser's under these these type of accounts, count on the webmaster to have very little marketing ability, in particular for these types of programs. If it is indeed this type of account, it does not surprise me in the least they terminate the account..

Gimmy · 04-02-2003, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornfreak

Apr '03 - WEG Cash - tonight just shut down my account with Account Terminated/Authorities notified

Hahaha, "authorities notified", what a fucking joke. I don't think it scares people. What authorities, FBI, CIA, the traffic police, secret service

DirtyDanza · 04-02-2003, 11:11 PM

ICQ me I got some high converting sites and will work with whatever traffic you have...

playa · 04-02-2003, 11:22 PM

stolen credit cards?

RobBuxxx · 04-03-2003, 03:13 PM

pornfreak. i am not sure why you have been terminated from our program and we can take a closer look at your account and speak with you. most of our team in at the phoenix forum but will be glad to talk to you . if you could email [email protected] we can work something out.

gothweb · 04-03-2003, 03:26 PM

If you're that good, you're welcome at Blood Money.

04-02-2003, 08:58 PM	#1
Pornfreak Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 18	Account Terminated... again. It always amazes me how many of these affiliate programs handle issues with their promoters (me). Totally unprofessional. I know it is hard for a lot of you program managers to believe this, but there are legitmate people out there who can make phenomenal conversion ratios. Yeah, they might be few and far between, but when I sign up for an affiliate program, I consider myself your employee/salesman. And I exepect to be treated like your employee/salesman. Is it that fucking hard? I am not even asking for benefits! I get sales for you and you pay me, simple enough. So, where does it state that you can treat me like a piece of shit after I just spent 30 hours designing a nice site to promote your sites, only to get slapped in the face when I try to login into my account a week later and get -- Account Terminated. WTF! If you can't treat your promoters/employees with respect, then don't let anyone signup to promote your sites, do it yourself. All I ask is that you let me know that there is something strange going on with my account and you want me to explain. I will respond as most who are honest will. Create a fucking template if you get a lot of suspicious accounts like this! Those who are really cheating will not respond. I will! Out of 4 of my accounts, with different affiliates, that have been terminated so far, only 1 has treated me with respect. And I respect them even more for that. They didn't just shut my account down, they let the stats still run while being under investigation. 2 were reactivated after my explanation, and 1 is just shut off or so called terminated, because it just happened, hence this rant. Pornfreak

04-02-2003, 09:02 PM	#4
asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	Follow the rules? did they give you a reason why you were banned>? __________________

04-02-2003, 09:05 PM	#5
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	LOL I've never been terminated...I guess I read the TOS when I sign up __________________ Converting like a mofo

04-02-2003, 09:05 PM	#6
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04-02-2003, 09:05 PM	#7
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04-02-2003, 09:01 PM	#2
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Dont spam? You may be a little slow as to catching on, If 4 companies have termed you for your traffic, maybee it isnt allowed? although i am sure some hardup company will post in this thread asking you to contact them

04-02-2003, 09:02 PM	#3
xanx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,711	I have to ask, so what are you doing to be terminated ? I treat all my partners as that, partners. So I'm just curious as to why you are pissing people off.

04-02-2003, 09:06 PM	#9
asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	You also said it's 4 other sponsors.. how are you getting signups exactly? __________________

04-02-2003, 09:07 PM	#10
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	So what were you terminated for? __________________ Converting like a mofo

04-02-2003, 09:08 PM	#11
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	If you have amazing conversions and they are legitimate, it's their fault for terminating you, they should be checking the amount of chargebacks/cancels not your conversions. WG __________________ I play with Google.

04-02-2003, 09:14 PM	#13
Pornfreak Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 18	August '02 - SilverCash - just down right shut my account down - Was reactivated. Jan '03 - Hawg's Cash - Just down right shut my account down - Was reactivated. March '03 - SIC Cash - Just stop paying me and started an investigation, but still letting me in to check stats - still pending reactivation Apr '03 - WEG Cash - tonight just shut down my account with Account Terminated/Authorities notified Authorities Notfied of what? What did I do? Pornfreak

04-02-2003, 09:19 PM	#15
asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	read all the posts.. people are asking how your making your sign ups, or what are the exact reasons of termination.. __________________

04-02-2003, 09:26 PM	#19
phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	Probably SE Spam or making your own tours and linking directly to the join page. Sponsors should have no problem with SE spam thou, they just might get suspicious if ratios are too good.

04-02-2003, 09:26 PM	#21
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Account canceled because your ratios are too good? Are there a bunch of charge backs? Spam complaints. That doesn't make any sense.

04-02-2003, 09:29 PM	#22
Muff Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,782	PornFreaks an SE guru from what I can see. And builds a might good surfer trap

04-02-2003, 09:32 PM	#24
phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	Pornfreak ,are you the same dude as Hornyfreak? If so I've seen u around in google, good job

04-02-2003, 09:35 PM	#26
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	Pornfreak... If you e-mail me, I will personally check on the status of your account. Understand that we are notified directly from our primary CC processor.. that they are seeing "unusual" activity.. . ie: unusually low conversions, similar ips, and emails.... since we pay out weekly... we then put the account on hold for further review.... IF in fact.... the signups "check out"... we will reopen the account...and pay all legitimate funds and for any signups during the suspension... If the signups are fraudulent.. meaning excessive credits/chargebacks... mulitiple signups from the same ips and emails.. with patterned cancels... we do not get paid... plus we get charged a penalty fee... so yes.. you will most likely get frauded... again... if you would contact me I would be more than happy to personally look through your account. I will personlly be on my way to phoenix in the morning.. but I will get back to you ...asap... in closing... I promote a very open communication with all of my accounts... if you have any questions... you can reach me easily via icq or e-mail... if indeed you are legit... we will pay.. always have always will... maybe i shouldn't have posted this as I prolly just encouraged.. whiners post on gfy...lol cheers anyway greg __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

04-02-2003, 09:36 PM	#28
rdunn404 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 999	Sounds like Pornfreak needs to start his own program and direct all his traffic to it. Hopefully he won't terminate himself!

04-02-2003, 09:36 PM	#29
kinetic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Loch Ness Posts: 395	This is to damn weird... 4 Major Sponsors have been closing your account ... (if it's not spam... then it's obvious we are talking about CREDIT CARD FRAUD ) ... that's the explanation for " AUTHORITIES NOTICED" or whatever that sponsor wrote you..Maybe there is someone outthere hating your guts... and makes stupid fake sign ups using your links.. ( he prolly knows where to find them, - on your site/s ofcourse ) , in that case I would advice you to start over with new domain/s and site/s , but this time be more carefull and if that faggot exits don't let him get your links again.The same shit happen to me a few months ago and I had no other choice but to start over..and now I am doing pretty well. Don't rely on the ideea that the sponsors are fucked up.. think about it, those are big companies that pay every time, as long as you don't brake the rules.It's just my opinion.Anyway , good luck.

04-02-2003, 09:49 PM	#31
jake2000xp Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 434	Greg, I will tell you what, I will sign up for your program for the sole reason, that is the most straight forward response I have heard on this board yet from a sponser. That's not to take away from others, but way to stand behind your product.

04-02-2003, 09:59 PM	#32
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	This is why I am scared shitless when it comes to starting a affiliate program. Someone does a bunch of fraud charges(I am not saying you Pornfreak), too many charge backs and I lose my processing. Way scary lol. Last edited by tony299; 04-02-2003 at 10:05 PM..

04-02-2003, 10:07 PM	#33
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	What are you conversion rates like? 1:10?

04-02-2003, 10:13 PM	#34
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Now I dont understand if he has a low conversion rate because he is a guru and he isnt getting alot of chargebacks or cancels. Why freeze his account?Is someone tracking this or is it a program that automatically shuts it off when certain numbers are hit. If he worked for me I would have him over for dinner every Sunday lol.

04-02-2003, 10:28 PM	#35
jake2000xp Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 434	You guy's have overlooked the fact in may be a per email sign up or per click, or other trial sign up conversion. Sponser's under these these type of accounts, count on the webmaster to have very little marketing ability, in particular for these types of programs. If it is indeed this type of account, it does not surprise me in the least they terminate the account..

04-02-2003, 11:11 PM	#37
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,370	ICQ me I got some high converting sites and will work with whatever traffic you have... __________________ AVN Nominated Camming Couple

04-02-2003, 11:22 PM	#38
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	stolen credit cards?

04-03-2003, 03:13 PM	#39
RobBuxxx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Huntingotn Beach, CA Posts: 82	pornfreak. i am not sure why you have been terminated from our program and we can take a closer look at your account and speak with you. most of our team in at the phoenix forum but will be glad to talk to you . if you could email [email protected] we can work something out. __________________ RobBuxxx - ICQ: 146996844 Marketing \| Development

04-03-2003, 03:26 PM	#40
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	If you're that good, you're welcome at Blood Money. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.