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Old 09-03-2012, 05:11 AM   #1
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Documentary: Koch Brothers Exposed

Just watched it. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of their influence.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:56 AM   #2
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Enemies of Rothschild, Koch are lesser of the evils
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:39 AM   #3
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where do I see this?
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:41 AM   #4
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Have you seen the new Obama movie?
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I wish people would stop misspelling their name, it's Kock Brothers goddamit.
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where do I see this?
http://www.kochbrothersexposed.com/
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:54 AM   #7
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where do I see this?
It was on Current TV last night.
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who are they? im not american
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:18 AM   #9
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who are they? im not american
disturbingly rich americans out of Wisconsin i believe. They fund several PACS up to and not including the Tea Party

when the union war was going on in Madison, the money for all the buses for the tea party was paid by these guys
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They also endow professorships at universities and them stock them with whores willing to deny global warming.

Why?

Because they are in the pollution business. Koch Industries is a huge player in the fossil fuel business with interests in coal, oil and natural gas. If there are tighter environmental regulations, they'd have to *gasp* spend some money cleaning up their mess. Apparently their combined $50 Billion net worth isn't enough for them.

These bastards don't care about the country one bit. They just want to continue raping the planet with as little oversight and cost (tax, cleanup etc) as possible.

As always, follow the money.
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:15 PM   #11
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They also donate to PBS shows a lot which is ironic because their favored party wants to defund PBS entirely. Claiming, as usual, that it's a waste of taxpayer money.
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They're also HUGE bankrollers of the (allegedly grass roots) Tea Party. Not because of some ideological belief, but simply because they want to pay less tax and have virtually no oversight of their activities. Sure, their super pac Americans for Prosperity wraps it all up in patriotic rah rah, but have no doubt about their real motivation.

As always, follow the money.
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:22 PM   #13
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Sounds like class warfare to me.
Huge bankrollers
Disturbingly wealthy

Make your point about something that matters.
When you start your bitching with "I wish I had their money" the rest of your rant is bullshit.
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Have you seen the new Obama movie?
Anyone,,,
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The thing is at least one of them is fiscally conservative, socially liberal. David (I think) is a big patron of the arts, believes in gay marriage and generally thinks people should just be themselves.

Granted, they are destructive with where they plow their money but if the Republican party would take a cue from them and go more left on social issues it'd probably get a lot more support.

Right now they put their money over their social beliefs so the extreme right gets their money to try and destroy America.
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:51 PM   #18
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Have you seen the new Obama movie?
FYI Dinesh D'Sousa is a professional liar for the far right. Every time i've seen him in an interview where his BS is corrected by documented fact, he either changes the subject or just says "no no no" until the interviewer moves on.

And now he's psychoanalyzing a guy he's never met, telling the world that obama has "deep-seated Charles Bronson vigilante rage". No joke, those are his words.
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The thing is at least one of them is fiscally conservative, socially liberal. David (I think) is a big patron of the arts, believes in gay marriage and generally thinks people should just be themselves.
Sure they don't care about gay marriage. It doesn't affect their bottom line (no pun intended ;))

They're not fiscally conservative because of a belief that it will make america better or some shit like that. They don't give a fuck. They just want to pay as little as possible to do what they do.

So they buy politicians, and they come cheap. Of all their investments, politicians give them their best ROI.

They are poster children for why Citizens United desperately needs to be overturned.
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Sure they don't care about gay marriage. It doesn't affect their bottom line (no pun intended ;))

They're not fiscally conservative because of a belief that it will make america better or some shit like that. They don't give a fuck. They just want to pay as little as possible to do what they do.

So they buy politicians, and they come cheap. Of all their investments, politicians give them their best ROI.

They are poster children for why Citizens United desperately needs to be overturned.
That is the challenge gay blogs are offering him. If you believe in gay marriage like you say write a check.
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Have you seen the new Obama movie?
Been waiting to see this...Anyone here have?
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Just watched it. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of their influence.
Nice! I will definitely check this out.
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disturbingly rich americans out of Wisconsin i believe. They fund several PACS up to and not including the Tea Party

when the union war was going on in Madison, the money for all the buses for the tea party was paid by these guys
They are originally from Kansas. One lives in NYC, not sure where the other brother is. The reason you think Wisconsin is they have been buying up every politician in WI, MI, KS and every other state they can. While they claim to be against unions, welfare and any other government handouts, they rake in $100+ millions a year from tax deductions or actual cash payments. This doesn't include all the pollution their factories spit out while trying to destroy the EPA. These two missed their calling by not being around in 1930's Germany to aid National Socialism.
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You can learn more about the Koch brothers in this documentary http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campaign_(film)
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They are originally from Kansas. One lives in NYC, not sure where the other brother is. The reason you think Wisconsin is they have been buying up every politician in WI, MI, KS and every other state they can. While they claim to be against unions, welfare and any other government handouts, they rake in $100+ millions a year from tax deductions or actual cash payments. This doesn't include all the pollution their factories spit out while trying to destroy the EPA. These two missed their calling by not being around in 1930's Germany to aid National Socialism.
i think i was thinking wisconsin cause i was reading about the arena that the koch brothers built and 'paid for' but ends up being mostly tax payers footing the bill while they reap the profits

thanks for the info
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i think i was thinking wisconsin cause i was reading about the arena that the koch brothers built and 'paid for' but ends up being mostly tax payers footing the bill while they reap the profits

thanks for the info
They saved WI governor scott walker's career by bankrolling his recall election. Walker actually got punked over the phone by a journalist pretending to be david koch http://buffalobeast.com/koch-whore/
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They saved WI governor scott walker's career by bankrolling his recall election. Walker actually got punked over the phone by a journalist pretending to be david koch http://buffalobeast.com/koch-whore/
haha yea i remember that

my favourite was the ammo cases found amid the protestors

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Another thing about these 2 faces of evil. They are prime forces behind the illegal Voter ID (aka voter suppression) laws we've seen crop up over the last year.

Basically, the goal is to disenfranchise up to 22 million voters, the vast majority of whom (not coincidentally) tend to vote democratic and also happen to be black. Fortunately, they're all going to be overturned as they violate parts of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

In fact Texas' new Voter ID law has already been struck down. Why? Because they have such a horrible record for racism that they're required to submit any changes to their voting rules to the DOJ for immediate review

I can't think of anything more un-american than trying to deny our most basic right, voting, to 11% of the population.
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In fact Texas' new Voter ID law has already been struck down. Why? Because they have such a horrible record for racism that they're required to submit any changes to their voting rules to the DOJ for immediate review
seriously?
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yea i looked it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act

i certainly wanna laugh, but deep down i think i wanna cry

divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book, takes a special kind of people to eat that shit, hook line and sinker
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yea i looked it up takes a special kind of people to eat that shit, hook line and sinker
yes. 'low information' people who only get their info from one source, and are too lazy to check things out for themselves.

here's the tragic thing. while i expect that sort of thing from toothless hillbilly knuckle-draggers, i see it in my own family. 2 close family members, who are bright, well-educated and very numbers-oriented in their professional lives, have totally surrendered their critical thought to the right wing media. even when presented with documented facts that contradict their 'thoughts', they can't accept it.

gotta give credit where it's due...the right wing media is brilliant at what they do. their products are fear and anger and they sell them like masters. Machiavellian brilliance.
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And this is how politics work in our great country. Disgusting.
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