CCBill Join Form button popup - GoFuckYourself.com

Davy · 01-15-2011, 09:02 AM

There may be a thread about this, but I could not find it.
On the ccbill join forms, a button pops up as soon as you enter a credit card number:

"Complete this purchase and continue shopping at ccbill.com"

CCbill support says it's required by MasterCard, it's part of a policy they are requiring ccbill to do. (quote)

That's fucked up and ridiculous! And a fucking traffic leak.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-15-2011, 09:22 AM

sounds like bullshit to me. probably they are required to have the word ccbill.com somewhere on the page not on a popup.

I could see that scaring away customers.

TheDA · 01-15-2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy

There may be a thread about this, but I could not find it.
On the ccbill join forms, a button pops up as soon as you enter a credit card number:

"Complete this purchase and continue shopping at ccbill.com"

CCbill support says it's required by MasterCard, it's part of a policy they are requiring ccbill to do. (quote)

That's fucked up and ridiculous! And a fucking traffic leak.

Got a link?

signupdamnit · 01-15-2011, 09:43 AM

Take a screenshot please. Also where do you get directed after the popup?

18teens · 01-15-2011, 09:52 AM

Does it work with popup blockers? If not, it's killing sales big time.

ShellShocked · 01-15-2011, 09:59 AM

Welcome to 2003. It's been there for many years and IS required by Mastercard.

signupdamnit · 01-15-2011, 10:02 AM

If it's really a policy mastercard is now requiring perhaps allowing the pre-checked cross sales was a mistake? I've been noticing ccbill is getting less and less friendly to affiliates. Maybe it's time to look at Verotel again? 30 day default cookies vs 3 days. All my ACH deposits come on time. I don't think they integrated the cross sale bullshit either without providing any possible way to credit affiliates. It seems as if it gets worse and worse. Let's see what they say.

CCBill Paul · 01-15-2011, 10:34 AM

This is a Mastercard requirement and has been implemented for many years now on our join pages. It is not a popup but simply a button that appears when the consumer inputs a Mastercard credit card number.

BV · 01-15-2011, 10:57 AM

Davy · 01-15-2011, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul

This is a Mastercard requirement and has been implemented for many years now on our join pages. It is not a popup but simply a button that appears when the consumer inputs a Mastercard credit card number.

So MasterCard requires you to send people from my site's join form to your site to make additional purchases?
I would like to see the exact wording of that requirement.

biskoppen · 01-15-2011, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy

So MasterCard requires you to send people from my site's join form to your site to make additional purchases?
I would like to see the exact wording of that requirement.

That sounds like it was misunderstood right from the beginning, no way thats a mastercard requirement for realz

SmokeyTheBear · 01-15-2011, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul

This is a Mastercard requirement and has been implemented for many years now on our join pages. It is not a popup but simply a button that appears when the consumer inputs a Mastercard credit card number.

what is the wording of the requirement ?

"must have button when consumer enters number"

or is it more along the lines of "biller must be clearly visible to account holder"

i don't doubt that there is some requirement , but let's be frank , you choose how to implement it correct ?

SmokeyTheBear · 01-15-2011, 11:33 AM

this is what he is talking about

when using ccbill to join a site you see this join button on the signup page

if you enter a mastercard number the following button is added

BFT3K · 01-15-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

this is what he is talking about

when using ccbill to join a site you see this join button on the signup page

if you enter a mastercard number the following button is added

Why on earth would that second button be "A MasterCard Requirement" ?

and what else are you then able to "shop for" at CCBill?

Some answers please.... CCBill Paul?

SmokeyTheBear · 01-15-2011, 11:43 AM

seems silly mastercard would require a misleading button to be added , the customer was being billed at ccbill , they were shopping on another site, the wording says " continue shopping at ccbill.com " , the customer wasn't shopping at ccbill so as a customer i would be confused.

BFT3K · 01-15-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

seems silly mastercard would require a misleading button to be added , the customer was being billed at ccbill , they were shopping on another site, the wording says " continue shopping at ccbill.com " , the customer wasn't shopping at ccbill so as a customer i would be confused.

Sounds like more fucking bullshit. I would love to hear the "legal logic" behind the "requirement" for such a dumbass button.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-15-2011, 11:46 AM

out of curiosity what happens when customer clicks that button paul ?

BFT3K · 01-15-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

out of curiosity what happens when customer clicks that button paul ?

Yes, what else are you then able to "shop for" at CCBill?

It doesn't add up.

CCBill Paul · 01-15-2011, 12:19 PM

If a customer clicks on the button the transaction is processed and they are taken to the search and shop system at ccbill.com. So it is just as if a customer submitted a transaction from your site and then went browsing elsewhere.

This is certainly nothing new and if you check a Segpay or Epoch form you should see the same functionality.

BFT3K · 01-15-2011, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul

If a customer clicks on the button the transaction is processed and they are taken to the search and shop system at ccbill.com. So it is just as if a customer submitted a transaction from your site and then went browsing elsewhere.

This is certainly nothing new and if you check a Segpay or Epoch form you should see the same functionality.

Why would MasterCard require that a button be added, that brings you to this page?...

https://shopping.ccbill.com/

What legal nonsense does this justify for them?

Well, I guess it's still better than Visa's bullshit need to get $750 upfront and then another $500 each year thereafter, for no reason whatsoever.

signupdamnit · 01-15-2011, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul

If a customer clicks on the button the transaction is processed and they are taken to the search and shop system at ccbill.com. So it is just as if a customer submitted a transaction from your site and then went browsing elsewhere.

This is certainly nothing new and if you check a Segpay or Epoch form you should see the same functionality.

When did you start doing this? And it might be an issue to some because I presume people aren't getting credit if someone decides to join one of these other services.

blackmonsters · 01-15-2011, 12:59 PM

SmokeyTheBear · 01-15-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul

So it is just as if a customer submitted a transaction from your site and then went browsing elsewhere..

exactly what the site owner does not want them to do.. this would be like buying artwork and your biller suggests other art galleries to your customers, i dont get the correlation between this and mc requirements ?

what is the requirement ? i don't get how this helps mc customers or mc in any way whatsoever ?

01-15-2011, 09:02 AM	#1
Davy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,323	CCBill Join Form button popup There may be a thread about this, but I could not find it. On the ccbill join forms, a button pops up as soon as you enter a credit card number: "Complete this purchase and continue shopping at ccbill.com" CCbill support says it's required by MasterCard, it's part of a policy they are requiring ccbill to do. (quote) That's fucked up and ridiculous! And a fucking traffic leak. __________________ --- ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all

01-15-2011, 09:22 AM	#2
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	sounds like bullshit to me. probably they are required to have the word ccbill.com somewhere on the page not on a popup. I could see that scaring away customers. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

01-15-2011, 10:02 AM	#7
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	If it's really a policy mastercard is now requiring perhaps allowing the pre-checked cross sales was a mistake? I've been noticing ccbill is getting less and less friendly to affiliates. Maybe it's time to look at Verotel again? 30 day default cookies vs 3 days. All my ACH deposits come on time. I don't think they integrated the cross sale bullshit either without providing any possible way to credit affiliates. It seems as if it gets worse and worse. Let's see what they say. Last edited by signupdamnit; 01-15-2011 at 10:05 AM..

01-15-2011, 10:34 AM	#8
CCBill Paul Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cardinal Nation Posts: 1,005	This is a Mastercard requirement and has been implemented for many years now on our join pages. It is not a popup but simply a button that appears when the consumer inputs a Mastercard credit card number. __________________ Paulk @ CCBill.com \| icq 248615940

01-15-2011, 11:33 AM	#13
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	this is what he is talking about when using ccbill to join a site you see this join button on the signup page if you enter a mastercard number the following button is added __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

01-15-2011, 09:43 AM	#4
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Take a screenshot please. Also where do you get directed after the popup?

01-15-2011, 09:52 AM	#5
18teens Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,605	Does it work with popup blockers? If not, it's killing sales big time.

01-15-2011, 09:59 AM	#6
ShellShocked Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sunnybrook Institution (Marketsmart's Neighbor) Posts: 148	Welcome to 2003. It's been there for many years and IS required by Mastercard.

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01-15-2011, 11:43 AM	#15
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	seems silly mastercard would require a misleading button to be added , the customer was being billed at ccbill , they were shopping on another site, the wording says " continue shopping at ccbill.com " , the customer wasn't shopping at ccbill so as a customer i would be confused. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	out of curiosity what happens when customer clicks that button paul ? __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

01-15-2011, 12:19 PM	#19
CCBill Paul Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cardinal Nation Posts: 1,005	If a customer clicks on the button the transaction is processed and they are taken to the search and shop system at ccbill.com. So it is just as if a customer submitted a transaction from your site and then went browsing elsewhere. This is certainly nothing new and if you check a Segpay or Epoch form you should see the same functionality. __________________ Paulk @ CCBill.com \| icq 248615940

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