Payoneer fees - GoFuckYourself.com

Jarmusch · 09-10-2010, 08:02 AM

Payoneer fees for those wondering:
https://payouts.payoneer.com/partner...ees.aspx?lan=1

Substantially higher than the epass fees, especially for those outside the US. The monthly card maintenance fee is interesting.. if you do less than 5 transactions per month they charge you $3 per month, that's $36 per year for not using it enough. And people complained about epassporte fees.

seeandsee · 09-10-2010, 08:04 AM

what is funny, high fees comparing to epass but maybe will go down if they add p2p

2intense · 09-10-2010, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

Payoneer fees for those wondering:
https://payouts.payoneer.com/partner...ees.aspx?lan=1

Substantially higher than the epass fees, especially for those outside the US. The monthly card maintenance fee is interesting.. if you do less than 5 transactions per month they charge you $3 per month, that's $36 per year for not using it enough. And people complained about epassporte fees.

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ContentPimp · 09-10-2010, 08:04 AM

Payoneer is pretty pricey!

chronig · 09-10-2010, 08:04 AM

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Jaeger · 09-10-2010, 08:06 AM

fucking grrr back to cheques? sigh sigh sigh

chronig · 09-10-2010, 08:07 AM

https://payouts.payoneer.com/partner...4112380&bhcp=1

1.35$ in US, 2.15$ outside? Not so bad, what are ePass fees?

2intense · 09-10-2010, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronig

https://payouts.payoneer.com/partner...4112380&bhcp=1

1.35$ in US, 2.15$ outside? Not so bad, what are ePass fees?

i agree ,not bad at all

chronig · 09-10-2010, 08:08 AM

Can't say I understand exactly how Payoneer works...

I can get a payoneer card by signing up as an affiliate to <program that has payoneer>

Then I can have other people pay me through that same Payoneer card even if they have no relation to that original affiliate program? Or do they need to have a payoneer account too? or what the fuck

Adraco · 09-10-2010, 08:09 AM

Says session timed out. I think they even hide their fees inside the member area, so you can't see the fees unless you become a member and login first.

2intense · 09-10-2010, 08:09 AM

ATM withdrawal - outside U.S. $2.15 * Per Trx When withdrawal is requested

epass take 3 $

2intense · 09-10-2010, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco

Says session timed out. I think they even hide their fees inside the member area, so you can't see the fees unless you become a member and login first.

no they don't https://payouts.payoneer.com/partner...4112380&bhcp=1

Jarmusch · 09-10-2010, 08:11 AM

Yeah that page is randomly unavailable. Is this better?

EDIT: posted screenshot in the OP

chronig · 09-10-2010, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2intense

i agree ,not bad at all

Actually I missed the * up to 2.2% for outside of US withdrawals

2intense · 09-10-2010, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

Yeah that page is randomly unavailable. Is this better?

yes ,better ,thank you

chronig · 09-10-2010, 08:13 AM

weird... I got a different page with 2.2%, yours says 3%

2intense · 09-10-2010, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronig

weird... I got a different page with 2.2%, yours says 3%

cant see % i can see

ATM withdrawal - U.S. $1.35 Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
ATM withdrawal - outside U.S. $2.15 * Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
Declined ATM withdrawal $0.90 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined
Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases
ATM Balance inquiry $0.90 Per inquiry When inquiry is made

greg80 · 09-10-2010, 08:16 AM

The strange thing is, I get charged 1% for each transaction. So if I pay something that costs $500, payoneer actually takes $505 from my account.

adult-help · 09-10-2010, 08:17 AM

So you cant send from one member to another? Damn am I gonna miss epass if it goes down..they can keep hat 1K they owe me just bring back the functionality and ATM access and all will be fine!

2intense · 09-10-2010, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg80

The strange thing is, I get charged 1% for each transaction. So if I pay something that costs $500, payoneer actually takes $505 from my account.

Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases

chronig · 09-10-2010, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2intense

cant see % i can see

ATM withdrawal - U.S. $1.35 Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
ATM withdrawal - outside U.S. $2.15 * Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
Declined ATM withdrawal $0.90 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined
Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases
ATM Balance inquiry $0.90 Per inquiry When inquiry is made

I guess that's why they created fine print... because people like you can't see it!

Imortyl Pussycat · 09-10-2010, 08:18 AM

epass may have been less expensive but this is one of those cases where "you get what you pay for" rang true unfortunately.

baddog · 09-10-2010, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat

epass may have been less expensive but this is one of those cases where "you get what you pay for" rang true unfortunately.

What will payoneer give them for their money? I went to their site to get info and left unsatisfied. Do you know anything about them?

Tapaz · 09-10-2010, 09:15 AM

I opened a payoneer account... they only ask an ID number to give you a card?

SpicyM · 09-10-2010, 09:32 AM

I dont know why u guys consider Payoneer a good alternative.. I dont see any advantage.

1. No p2p transfers
2. Card must be issued by your sponsor (non-US people)
3. High fees.. card activation: $10 ?? WTF? ATM balance inquiry: $1 ?? Whats that shit??

So far the only alternative I found is:

OKpay.com , Webmoney.com and Neteller.com

Everything looks good with OKpay except:

ATM withdrawal 2% (min. $3, max. $15)

But they offer all we had with Epass.

---

As for Neteller.com

"With no transfer fees for the receiver, the sender only pays a 1.9% transfer fee. The minimum fee is 1 USD."

1.9% is a lot

chronig · 09-10-2010, 09:36 AM

Does netteller give debit cards? or webmoney? (not that I would trust my money with sneaky slimey shady Russians!!! ...

)

Imortyl Pussycat · 09-10-2010, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

What will payoneer give them for their money? I went to their site to get info and left unsatisfied. Do you know anything about them?

after this fiasco i would advise the GFY investigators to do the digging that has now been done on Epass before jumping on board with anyone knew. Gammae just added Payoneer, check with Karl, he's super smart and would not have thrown something up without totally checking it out. i think the issue for most programs right now (other than the obvious) is that there are not many options out there to get their people paid that are not in the US.

bufferover · 09-10-2010, 09:46 AM

Webmoney sucks

It's really good option if you live in Russia i guess. No they don't have ATM cards like i know

SpicyM · 09-10-2010, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronig

Does netteller give debit cards? or webmoney? (not that I would trust my money with sneaky slimey shady Russians!!! ...

)

Yes they do..

Neteller:

ATM card:
http://public.neteller.com/content/g...s_physical.htm

Virtual card:
http://public.neteller.com/content/g...ds_virtual.htm

Webmoney (wmtransfer.com):
https://cards.wmtransfer.com/en

I dont like webmoney so much, the site is shitty and they are Russians, but there are sponsor already using them i.e. Shocking Cash

TheSwed · 09-10-2010, 09:50 AM

what i can understand so can you send money to other cardholders
Just load their cards.
https://load.payoneer.com/LoadToPage.aspx

SpicyM · 09-10-2010, 09:52 AM

Neteller

Withdrawal fee schedule (ATM)
USD: 6

Fuck.

Wizzo · 09-10-2010, 09:54 AM

But Netteller won't work for US companies...

chronig · 09-10-2010, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed

what i can understand so can you send money to other cardholders
Just load their cards.
https://load.payoneer.com/LoadToPage.aspx

Who pays the fee?
I will pay the fee
Your bank account will be debited with an additional $ 7.79 for fees.
Beneficiary card will be
loaded with:
$ 200.00

OR
Cardholder pays the fee
A Fee of $ 7.50 will be deducted from the amount recieved by the cardholder.
cardholder's card will be
loaded with:
$ 192.50

Also - this doesn't look like p2p transfer... as in - have some money in your payoneer account, and transfer to someone else, this looks to be load3d from your visa card/etc

SpicyM · 09-10-2010, 09:56 AM

OKpay.com issues debit cards

https://www.okpay.com/en/services/debit-card/index.html

SpicyM · 09-10-2010, 10:02 AM

OKPay Fees (https://www.okpay.com/en/services/fees.html)

Deposit fees
Wire 0%

Interest
Added to balance: 3% per year

Transfers
Internal EUR 0.5% (min €0.01, max €2.99)
Internal USD 0.5% (min $0.01, max $2.99)

OKPay debit card fees:

Card loading $8.00
ATM withdrawal 2% (min. $3, max. $15) - this looks like the only high fee at OKPay.com

Is it just me, or does OKpay really look better than payoneer??

Si · 09-10-2010, 10:05 AM

how much do you pay for your checking account per month?

$4?

Not bad for $3 per month with payoneer, just be like a second checking account. Ok you can't do P2P but I wouldn't mind betting they either will do, or mastercard doesn't allow it.

chronig · 09-10-2010, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM

OKPay Fees (https://www.okpay.com/en/services/fees.html)

Deposit fees
Wire 0%

Interest
Added to balance: 3% per year

Transfers
Internal EUR 0.5% (min ?0.01, max ?2.99)
Internal USD 0.5% (min $0.01, max $2.99)

OKPay debit card fees:

Card loading $8.00
ATM withdrawal 2% (min. $3, max. $15) - this looks like the only high fee at OKPay.com

Is it just me, or does OKpay really look better than payoneer??

That depends... which one keeps your funds in motion?

VforVendetta · 09-10-2010, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronig

Who pays the fee?
I will pay the fee
Your bank account will be debited with an additional $ 7.79 for fees.
Beneficiary card will be
loaded with:
$ 200.00

OR
Cardholder pays the fee
A Fee of $ 7.50 will be deducted from the amount recieved by the cardholder.
cardholder's card will be
loaded with:
$ 192.50

Also - this doesn't look like p2p transfer... as in - have some money in your payoneer account, and transfer to someone else, this looks to be load3d from your visa card/etc

Right , and the person must wait 2/3 days to have the money on his account

vano · 09-10-2010, 10:07 AM

what are the daily withdrawal limits on Payoneer cards?

Alprazolam · 09-10-2010, 10:09 AM

i wouldn't touch payoneer.

LeivaMedia · 09-10-2010, 10:12 AM

Service Fees for okpay.com

Si · 09-10-2010, 10:12 AM

That OKPay looks good actually

mastercard, p2p, low fees. But what are their policies?

chronig · 09-10-2010, 10:16 AM

added OKPAY to Skype, so far support doesn't seem online - someone try their phone #

chronig · 09-10-2010, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

That OKPay looks good actually

mastercard, p2p, low fees. But what are their policies?

That's what I'm looking for / would like to know

Where's the AUP

Found something:

Q: Do you have a restricted business list?

A: We impose no restrictions for particular types of commerce except that we do not tolerate anything connected with child pornography. We do allow transactions related to investment programs, gambling and MLM.

Dating Port · 09-10-2010, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

That OKPay looks good actually

mastercard, p2p, low fees. But what are their policies?

4.6.1.2. Issuer will Freeze or remove a Freeze from a OKPAY account, if ordered to do so by an order from a court or arbitration body of acceptable jurisdiction, as determined by Issuer.

4.6.1.3. Fees will continue to be assessed on a frozen account.

CaptainHowdy · 09-10-2010, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2intense

ATM withdrawal - outside U.S. $2.15 * Per Trx When withdrawal is requested

epass take 3 $

My toughts exactly, Payoneer looks promising.

LeivaMedia · 09-10-2010, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

That OKPay looks good actually

mastercard, p2p, low fees. But what are their policies?

Not mention any for no-adult and it mention gambling but looks ok, read below

Quote:

2.4.3 User understands and acknowledges that user is aware that OKPAY spends are irrevocable and that user agrees to follow the policy of buyer beware ("Caveat Emptor") when using OKPAY at various merchant sites, especially merchants such as gaming or gambling or "HYIP" and other types of investment or chance games or matrixes or Ponzis (pyramid schemes), which are identifiable by their promises of extremely high (more than 1% per day) rates of return, and that should user still wish to deal with such merchants that it is at user's own risk.

2.4.4 User understands and acknowledges that OKPAY is registered and is 100% domiciled in British Virgin Islands (BVI) and that OKPAY follows the laws of British Virgin Islands (BVI), including, but not limited to, allowing gaming and gambling businesses to use OKPAY as a payment system, which may not be acceptable or legal in user's own jurisdiction.

2intense · 09-10-2010, 10:36 AM

interesting

chronig · 09-10-2010, 10:39 AM

Signed up for OKPay account and submitted verification documents... let's see what happens

LongBG · 09-10-2010, 10:50 AM

OKPay says Maximum allowed balance on the card is $5000

That's not going to work for everyone.

09-10-2010, 08:02 AM	#1
Jarmusch Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12,464	Payoneer fees Payoneer fees for those wondering: https://payouts.payoneer.com/partner...ees.aspx?lan=1 Substantially higher than the epass fees, especially for those outside the US. The monthly card maintenance fee is interesting.. if you do less than 5 transactions per month they charge you $3 per month, that's $36 per year for not using it enough. And people complained about epassporte fees. Last edited by Jarmusch; 09-10-2010 at 08:11 AM..

09-10-2010, 08:04 AM	#2
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09-10-2010, 08:09 AM	#10
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09-10-2010, 08:09 AM	#11
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09-10-2010, 08:04 AM	#4
ContentPimp Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,184	Payoneer is pretty pricey!

09-10-2010, 08:04 AM	#5
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09-10-2010, 08:07 AM	#7
chronig Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,653	https://payouts.payoneer.com/partner...4112380&bhcp=1 1.35$ in US, 2.15$ outside? Not so bad, what are ePass fees?

09-10-2010, 08:08 AM	#9
chronig Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,653	Can't say I understand exactly how Payoneer works... I can get a payoneer card by signing up as an affiliate to <program that has payoneer> Then I can have other people pay me through that same Payoneer card even if they have no relation to that original affiliate program? Or do they need to have a payoneer account too? or what the fuck

09-10-2010, 08:11 AM	#13
Jarmusch Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12,464	Yeah that page is randomly unavailable. Is this better? EDIT: posted screenshot in the OP Last edited by Jarmusch; 09-10-2010 at 08:12 AM..

09-10-2010, 08:13 AM	#16
chronig Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,653	weird... I got a different page with 2.2%, yours says 3%

09-10-2010, 08:16 AM	#18
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adult-help Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,450	So you cant send from one member to another? Damn am I gonna miss epass if it goes down..they can keep hat 1K they owe me just bring back the functionality and ATM access and all will be fine! __________________ Adult web templates, Adult WordPress Themes, TGP, MGP.. also Complete Wordpress PaySite Development - Adult WordPress Blog Themes - Free FHG Templates - Free PaySite Script - Adult Tutorials Directory - Adult Domain Marketplace - Adult Jobs

09-10-2010, 08:18 AM	#22
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09-10-2010, 09:15 AM	#24
Tapaz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CamCity Posts: 1,745	I opened a payoneer account... they only ask an ID number to give you a card?

09-10-2010, 09:32 AM	#25
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,544	I dont know why u guys consider Payoneer a good alternative.. I dont see any advantage. 1. No p2p transfers 2. Card must be issued by your sponsor (non-US people) 3. High fees.. card activation: $10 ?? WTF? ATM balance inquiry: $1 ?? Whats that shit?? So far the only alternative I found is: OKpay.com , Webmoney.com and Neteller.com Everything looks good with OKpay except: ATM withdrawal 2% (min. $3, max. $15) But they offer all we had with Epass. --- As for Neteller.com "With no transfer fees for the receiver, the sender only pays a 1.9% transfer fee. The minimum fee is 1 USD." 1.9% is a lot

09-10-2010, 09:36 AM	#26
chronig Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,653	Does netteller give debit cards? or webmoney? (not that I would trust my money with sneaky slimey shady Russians!!! ... )

09-10-2010, 09:46 AM	#28
bufferover Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 25,203	Webmoney sucks It's really good option if you live in Russia i guess. No they don't have ATM cards like i know

09-10-2010, 09:50 AM	#30
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09-10-2010, 09:52 AM	#31
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,544	Neteller Withdrawal fee schedule (ATM) USD: 6 Fuck.

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09-10-2010, 09:56 AM	#34
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,544	OKpay.com issues debit cards https://www.okpay.com/en/services/debit-card/index.html

09-10-2010, 10:02 AM	#35
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,544	OKPay Fees (https://www.okpay.com/en/services/fees.html) Deposit fees Wire 0% Interest Added to balance: 3% per year Transfers Internal EUR 0.5% (min €0.01, max €2.99) Internal USD 0.5% (min $0.01, max $2.99) OKPay debit card fees: Card loading $8.00 ATM withdrawal 2% (min. $3, max. $15) - this looks like the only high fee at OKPay.com Is it just me, or does OKpay really look better than payoneer??

09-10-2010, 10:05 AM	#36
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	how much do you pay for your checking account per month? $4? Not bad for $3 per month with payoneer, just be like a second checking account. Ok you can't do P2P but I wouldn't mind betting they either will do, or mastercard doesn't allow it.

09-10-2010, 10:07 AM	#39
vano Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 209	what are the daily withdrawal limits on Payoneer cards?

09-10-2010, 10:09 AM	#40
Alprazolam So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 864	i wouldn't touch payoneer.

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09-10-2010, 10:12 AM	#42
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	That OKPay looks good actually mastercard, p2p, low fees. But what are their policies?

09-10-2010, 10:16 AM	#43
chronig Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,653	added OKPAY to Skype, so far support doesn't seem online - someone try their phone #

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09-10-2010, 10:39 AM	#49
chronig Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,653	Signed up for OKPay account and submitted verification documents... let's see what happens

09-10-2010, 10:50 AM	#50
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