Kiev Now!

[Sid70]

[adultmobile]

http://news.kievukraine.info/

[nastyrabbit]

Damn fucking shit going on there

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Sid70

Let's the civilian war beings...

[Cyber Fucker]

Edit: Nevermind.

[Sid70]

In English: http://www.kyivpost.com/

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Let's the civilian war beings...

[_Richard_]

is it still regulated to the square? or has it spread?

[oppoten]

http://rt.com/on-air/ukraine-central-kiev-protest/

[Sid70]

[whitet]

http://www.bloomberg.com/live-stream/

[editeur]

Хохлы, держитесь против пернатых
Москва с вами

[femdomdestiny]

Germans did this. Similar as in Yougslavia, I am reckognizing pattern. Just watched how police officers were killed with stones while lying on the ground. What I don't understand is wtf police is doing there? They could fix this mess in a matter of few hours.

[loreen]

Originally Posted by oppoten

http://rt.com/on-air/ukraine-central-kiev-protest/

Look at the ad on that page:

[romeo22]

that sucks!!! doent look good.hope it ends very soon!

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sid70

Тебе что-то не нравится? Это начало настоящей гражданской войны. Украина никогда не была целостным государством (с одной стороны поляки, с другой - русские) Сейчас самое веселье только начинается. Заметь, что инициировали его западенцы - поляки, как обычно. Ибо народец - мелкопакостный и мерзкий - бандеровцы. Я уже говорил чем все это закончится. Песда Украине, как "государству".

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by loreen

Look at the ad on that page:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Тебе что-то не нравится? Это начало настоящей гражданской войны. Украина никогда не была целостным государством (с одной стороны поляки, с другой - русские) Сейчас самое веселье только начинается. Заметь, что инициировали его западенцы - поляки, как обычно. Ибо народец - мелкопакостный и мерзкий - бандеровцы. Я уже говорил чем все это закончится. Песда Украине, как "государству".

только начало? это продолжается уже в течение нескольких месяцев, а лет «политики» ..

до сих пор, украинцы сделали довольно хорошую работу, рассматривая игроков

[CAHEK]

And the death and injury toll, which is rising by the hour:

6 policemen dead
6 protestors dead
Police HQ in Ternopli on fire
Police HQ in Lviv occupied
More than 150 injuries

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by _richard_

только начало? это продолжается уже в течение нескольких месяцев, а лет «политики» ..

Пока это реально только начало. Нет никакой Украины. Есть Россия и Польша. Чем все закончится, неизвестно. Ясно одно - Украина, как независимое государство, долго не просуществует.

P.s. Ну а то, что люди гибнут, это очень плохо конечно. Тут не до шуток уже.

[SekobA]

This will be reality in a few. more countries in short period of time

[C H R I S]

Just saw this on CNN - crazy.

My coworker is from there. Haven't heard from her yet. Im sure she is fine.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by cyberseo

Пока это реально только начало. Нет никакой Украины. Есть Россия и Польша. Чем все закончится, неизвестно. Ясно одно - Украина, как независимое государство, долго не просуществует.

P.s. Ну а то, что люди гибнут, это очень плохо конечно. Тут не до шуток уже.

Шутки приходят во многих формах, да?

P.s. Учитывая, что вы говорите о состоянии, в котором "не существует", в то время как люди умирают за это.

P. P. P. P. P. P. P. S. но эй, чувствовать себя нравственно выше причину мы смеялись над страшной размещения рекламы, в то время как вы празднуете свой ​​национальный эрекцию.

[CAHEK]

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Тебе что-то не нравится? Это начало настоящей гражданской войны. Украина никогда не была целостным государством (с одной стороны поляки, с другой - русские) Сейчас самое веселье только начинается. Заметь, что инициировали его западенцы - поляки, как обычно. Ибо народец - мелкопакостный и мерзкий - бандеровцы. Я уже говорил чем все это закончится. Песда Украине, как "государству".

Россия все инициировала. На вас кровь, падлы.
Maidan said it all, Russia is to blame, blood is on Putin.

[deltav]

I'm not going to go into details here, to avoid a Great Patriotic Flamewar, but this is all really a drag for the Ukrainian people because they're being jerked around by forces far far more powerful than anything they can muster. And those forces don't have their best interests at heart.

Hopefully they can defuse this latest event without escalating bloodshed, but I don't really see the political situation improving.

[djroof]

again that in Ukraine? That sucks... and is bad for the whole area there...

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by deltav

I'm not going to go into details here, to avoid a Great Patriotic Flamewar, but this is all really a drag for the Ukrainian people because they're being jerked around by forces far far more powerful than anything they can muster. And those forces don't have their best interests at heart.

Hopefully they can defuse this latest event without escalating bloodshed, but I don't really see the political situation improving.

I know Ukrainians, they'd prefer not even be there, but the regime took it to the whole another level. If they don't stand the night, if there be more dead, tomorrow there will be worse. Only in Kiev there are 400k registered guns and rifles.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by djroof

again that in Ukraine? That sucks... and is bad for the whole area there...

It did nit stop, so not again. Today is big day since serious forces were sent..

[mineistaken]

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by CAHEK

That ending was sickening - I really don't care what they say they are protesting about - all they really want is blood.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

That ending was sickening - I really don't care what they say they are protesting about - all they really want is blood.

odd.. more blood on the streets of vancouver during a hockey riot than your 'sickening' video

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

odd.. more blood on the streets of vancouver during a hockey riot than your 'sickening' video

it's about time I started using the ignore button, your posts get more and more childish in your pathetic chase for sig views.

[_Richard_]

that's funny, i have one ref link for a company i obviously work for

you work for plugrush and tubevixens, there Mr. British Union?

[rogueteens]

okay, Mr 24,776 posts.

[_Richard_]

very good you wanna talk about it when i am in Europe next?

You ever been to Canada?

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

very good you wanna talk about it when i am in Europe next?

You ever been to Canada?

Nope, never been to Canada. I guess that there is nothing to do there except post on forums.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

Nope, never been to Canada. I guess that there is nothing to do there except post on forums.

you should come! seems like mostly all the online adult industry is based here

hit me up, ill show you around! however, there won't be many 'british union' groups here ;)

[deltav]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

That ending was sickening - I really don't care what they say they are protesting about - all they really want is blood.

It's a nasty, complex situation. Plenty of videos of police brutality out there too.

It should be noted that there *is* a growing presence of far-right Ukrainian nationalists (mostly from the west side of the country) amongst the protesters, eerily reminiscent of how radicals started to co-opt the grassroots movements in Syria, Libya, even going back to Croatia where lunatic Ustashi-types helpfully killed any international sympathy for those fighting Milosevic.

Throw in a long history of Russian domination, EU & USA handwringing and lack of any constructive alternatives, totally corrupt govt (and remember the opposition was in power before Yanukovich, they were crooks too), etc, and I dunno how things don't spiral further.

I'm guessing whatever happens Russia will benefit the most (i.e. keep Ukraine solidly in their sphere), they're the only ones with power who are applying a consistent steady policy & pressure.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by deltav

It's a nasty, complex situation. Plenty of videos of police brutality out there too.

It should be noted that there *is* a growing presence of far-right Ukrainian nationalists (mostly from the west side of the country) amongst the protesters, eerily reminiscent of how radicals started to co-opt the grassroots movements in Syria, Libya, even going back to Croatia where lunatic Ustashi-types helpfully killed any international sympathy for those fighting Milosevic.

Throw in a long history of Russian domination, EU & USA handwringing and lack of any constructive alternatives, totally corrupt govt (and remember the opposition was in power before Yanukovich, they were crooks too), etc, and I dunno how things don't spiral further.

I'm guessing whatever happens Russia will benefit the most (i.e. keep Ukraine solidly in their sphere), they're the only ones with power who are applying a consistent steady policy & pressure.

been rather impressive how well organized the protestor side is.. but then, when you have articles like this

http://www.globalresearch.ca/america...kraine/5367782

it's not so surprising

[deltav]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

been rather impressive how well organized the protestor side is.. but then, when you have articles like this

http://www.globalresearch.ca/america...kraine/5367782

it's not so surprising

Yeah, just part of the East vs West tug of war that's been going on forever. I think when Yushchenko & Tymoshenko flamed out, Putin realized he was holding all the cards and hence you get this more aggressive policy that looks like it'll be successful in pulling Ukraine away from the EU.

Funny thing though - you hear all this pro-Ukraine protester rhetoric from many Americans, yet if there were a similar movement in Washington DC (the Occupy stuff doesn't hold a candle) where the protesters actively lobbied for regime change and actively fought back (and were partly supported by far-right ultranationalists like in Ukraine) - they'd be labelled terrorists and the Nat'l Guard would come down on them like holy hell and wipe them off the streets. And many of those Americans who support a "peaceful revolution" in Ukraine would be 100% behind that crackdown. We apply our standards where convenient.

[oppoten]

American ambassador apparently

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by deltav

Yeah, just part of the East vs West tug of war that's been going on forever. I think when Yushchenko & Tymoshenko flamed out, Putin realized he was holding all the cards and hence you get this more aggressive policy that looks like it'll be successful in pulling Ukraine away from the EU.

Funny thing though - you hear all this pro-Ukraine protester rhetoric from many Americans, yet if there were a similar movement in Washington DC (the Occupy stuff doesn't hold a candle) where the protesters actively lobbied for regime change and actively fought back (and were partly supported by far-right ultranationalists like in Ukraine) - they'd be labelled terrorists and the Nat'l Guard would come down on them like holy hell and wipe them off the streets. And many of those Americans who support a "peaceful revolution" in Ukraine would be 100% behind that crackdown. We apply our standards where convenient.

less funny, way more sad

we have elected government officials writing letters and making demands in support of the opposition, but doing so while being responsible for laws that would see those same protesters in jail for 10+ years

nice that they're so concerned finally.. now only to get them concerned about their own countries

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Sid70

Россия все инициировала. На вас кровь, падлы.
Maidan said it all, Russia is to blame, blood is on Putin.

So Russia has started Euro-Maidain in Kiev? Are you sure? Ты не только бандеровец, ты еще и больной на всю голову дебил.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

That ending was sickening - I really don't care what they say they are protesting about - all they really want is blood.

Exactly

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by oppoten

American ambassador apparently

Oh yeah, blame Russia

[SpicyM]

This country needs new elections to quit the protests.

Let the people decide, see what the majority want.

[martin-clickpapa]

disaster....

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

This country needs new elections to quit the protests.

Let the people decide, see what the majority want.

They can't. Eastern Ukraine and Western Ukraine are two different nations with different traditions, history etc. For example, during WWII Western Ukrainians were fighting for Nazi and Eastern Ukrainians still remember that

[seeandsee]

jesus they made new war frontagain

[GregE]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

They can't. Eastern Ukraine and Western Ukraine are two different nations with different traditions, history etc. For example, during WWII Western Ukrainians were fighting for Nazi and Eastern Ukrainians still remember that

Well, when you consider that Stalin starved 3 to 5 million of them the death just eight years previous to the arrival of the Germans it's little wonder that the remaining population initially welcomed Hitler's rule. Unfortunately for them the Nazi's treated them like shit too.

And if all that wasn't bad enough, after the war even more of them starved to death in the 1946 to 1947 famine.