AWE WL's - ???????

[2intense]

i just noticed that all AWE wl's got hit my "gooagle".
anyone noticed same thing ?

i think is about WL's (site) structure that do not fit anymore with some "gooagle" changes.

let me know guys if any of you noticed that.

thank you

[Denny]

I don't have any but I check a few cam terms and noticed that as well.

[adultmobile]

Some examples?
I seen this happen time ago for whitelabel of imlive, one with name like one of my sites shown in first page (and I was upset of this), then gone from listing - with no reason except Google magics. Of course whitelabels are mostly same content in thousands domain names, and this may be targeted by Google more likely than "unique content".

[2intense]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Some examples?
I seen this happen time ago for whitelabel of imlive, one with name like one of my sites shown in first page (and I was upset of this), then gone from listing - with no reason except Google magics. Of course whitelabels are mostly same content in thousands domain names, and this may be targeted by Google more likely than "unique content".

then should be the same with streamate wl's,, i see wiz wl's start doing well again after got hit in september,now awe got same hit as i can see.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Some examples?

yes.the biggest one is live sex dot com lost #1 for live sex after years + lots of other awe wl's ranked for high competitive keywords.shit happen yesterday.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by 2intense

yes.the biggest one is live sex dot com lost #1 for live sex after years + lots of other awe wl's ranked for high competitive keywords.shit happen yesterday.

Google is mega smart, what if they related the awe whitelabels ip's, URL and page content with the trillion lj popups opening in unrelated pages every second?
Imlive's wiz does not popup spam like this.

[bns666]

yeah my 2 wl's got hit too.

[2013]

same thing happened here noticed few days ago in stats

[polosas]

same here, awe wl got huge drop in traffic.

[e-god]

It's just a matter of time when search engines will realize that all whitelabels are the same.

P.S. all AWE whitelabels are giving free hardlink to oranum dot com ..

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by e-god

P.S. all AWE whitelabels are giving free hardlink to oranum dot com ..

Tarots and psychics its big and expanding market.
Seriously, I know a few developers in the live streaming market, their main customers are churches and crazy priests who do religious sermons over internet; those companies said me the money flowing on religious, tarot and psychocs scam streams is like 10 times what adult cams is.

[Peter-Porn]

Google see them now like thin affiliate pages, doorway pages, automatically generated content, or copied content... that's my opinion...

[ctggls]

Same thing happend here... It's good that none of my WL's have a high amount of traffic... It's bad because AWE used to have one of the finest scripts for SEO...

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by ctggls

Same thing happend here... It's good that none of my WL's have a high amount of traffic... It's bad because AWE used to have one of the finest scripts for SEO...

Perhaps being too much smart about SEO in yours scripts make you smell like you're black hat. Plain stupid page is less suspicious. I still think popunders opening on same domain name it had a bad effect.

[ctggls]

Not too much noise about this... I think it quite a big thing, I never ever got a site slammed so hard by google... It would be good if a rep from AWE could explain this...

[2intense]

they must fix this,anyway anyone noticed that awe wl;s was down on 3 april for many hours?to be honest ,never saw their wl's down.

[dimfizz]

My AWE WL was on page 1 spot 3 for very good keyword since January & I was racking up some good sales. 2 days ago I dropped off page 1 to page 7 or more. I couldn't figuer out why... since I didn't change anything.

Then yesterday I logged in to webmaster tools and saw this message from Google:

"Google Webmaster Tools: Quality Issues on (my domain)

Dear site owner or webmaster of (my domain),
We've detected that some of your site's pages may be using techniques that are outside Google's Webmaster Guidelines.

Specifically, we detected low-quality pages on your site which do not provide substantially unique content or added value. Examples could include thin affiliate pages, doorway pages, automatically generated content, or copied content. For more information about unique and compelling content, visit: google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66361

We encourage you to make changes to your site so that it meets our quality guidelines. Once you've made these changes, please submit your site for reconsideration in Google's search results.

If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.

Sincerely,
Google Search Quality Team"

My search traffic has bottomed out so I don't expect to make any sales from search until this get sorted out. Thankfully I have return buyers from existing members.

I sent a support ticket to AWE support with that message from Google to see if they can do anything, still waiting on a reply.

[2intense]

when u submit the site for reconsideration u will get same message,looks like i will rank other names.trying to recover a fucked one is harder that ranking a new one.good luck

[Failed]

Hey 2intense, could you hit me up on ICQ whenever you have some free time. Thank you!

[2intense]

Originally Posted by Failed

Hey 2intense, could you hit me up on ICQ whenever you have some free time. Thank you!

why ? :D

[Failed]

Originally Posted by 2intense

why ? :D

I wanted to talk to you about cams and offer you a deal in exchange for your expertise. If you're not interested, no big deal. Just thought I'd try

[bns666]

Originally Posted by 2intense

trying to recover a fucked one is harder that ranking a new one.good luck

exactly...

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by dimfizz

unique content...., or copied content. For more information about unique and compelling content, visit: google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66361

Ok but then all of the white labels of any program about anything it should be affected, right?

[ctggls]

Originally Posted by 2intense

when u submit the site for reconsideration u will get same message,looks like i will rank other names.trying to recover a fucked one is harder that ranking a new one.good luck

So true! What are you going to say in the reconsideration message "it was a WL, I don't know what the sponsor did to make it that bad but please rank me up again."

If it's out of google eyes, from my small experience, it will never go up again.. change the domain, change the sponsor and try again.

[ctggls]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Ok but then all of the white labels of any program about anything it should be affected, right?

You're right here but I think AWE did something really nasty to the WL to get them hit that hard. WL exist for quite some time and it's hard to believe that google hasn't seem them until now... What I think, is that probably AWE used some sort of sticky backdoor redirect that nobody was able to see except big G.

[ctggls]

Originally Posted by dimfizz

My AWE WL was on page 1 spot 3 for very good keyword since January & I was racking up some good sales. 2 days ago I dropped off page 1 to page 7 or more. I couldn't figuer out why... since I didn't change anything.

Then yesterday I logged in to webmaster tools and saw this message from Google:

"Google Webmaster Tools: Quality Issues on (my domain)

Dear site owner or webmaster of (my domain),
We've detected that some of your site's pages may be using techniques that are outside Google's Webmaster Guidelines.

Specifically, we detected low-quality pages on your site which do not provide substantially unique content or added value. Examples could include thin affiliate pages, doorway pages, automatically generated content, or copied content. For more information about unique and compelling content, visit: google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66361

We encourage you to make changes to your site so that it meets our quality guidelines. Once you've made these changes, please submit your site for reconsideration in Google's search results.

If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.

Sincerely,
Google Search Quality Team"

My search traffic has bottomed out so I don't expect to make any sales from search until this get sorted out. Thankfully I have return buyers from existing members.

I sent a support ticket to AWE support with that message from Google to see if they can do anything, still waiting on a reply.

Let us now please their response.

[slavdogg]

From the research i've just done
it looks like ALL LJ white labels have been replaced with livejasmin.
In short this means they took over all affiliates SEO traffic in one swoop.

Can you someone please confirm this ?

[2intense]

Originally Posted by slavdogg

From the research i've just done
it looks like ALL LJ white labels have been replaced with livejasmin.
In short this means they took over all affiliates SEO traffic in one swoop.

Can you someone please confirm this ?

hmmm,it looks like that

[AdultKing]

Google is using new algorithms to detect content which is not unique, is thin, or does not add any value.

It's been talked about ad nauseum recently on copywriting and content marketing blogs, it's even been flagged by Google as something that would happen.

One of the most important steps in improving your site's ranking in Google search results is to ensure that it contains plenty of rich information that includes relevant keywords, used appropriately, that indicate the subject matter of your content.

However, some webmasters attempt to improve their pages’ ranking and attract visitors by creating pages with many words but little or no authentic content. Google will take action against domains that try to rank more highly by just showing scraped or other cookie-cutter pages that don't add substantial value to users.

Examples include:

Autogenerated content
Doorway pages
Scraped content
Thin affiliate sites

If your site has been removed from our search results, review our Webmaster Guidelines (including the above links) for more information. Once you've made your changes and are confident that your site no longer violates our guidelines, submit your site for reconsideration.

If a WL isn't a cookie cutter site then I don't know what is. Of course a WL is a cookie cutter site, substantially identical to the main published site.

This was always going to happen, Google has been talking about the importance of original, compelling content preferably with social media linked authorship for quite a while now. Suddenly people are surprised that a substantially thin WL gets penalised ?

[ctggls]

Originally Posted by slavdogg

From the research i've just done
it looks like ALL LJ white labels have been replaced with livejasmin.
In short this means they took over all affiliates SEO traffic in one swoop.

Can you someone please confirm this ?

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying... can you give me an example?

[2intense]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

. Suddenly people are surprised that a substantially thin WL gets penalised ?

yes,after tons of wl's was ranked for years we are surprised,and might streamate wl's be the next ones?

[2intense]

Originally Posted by ctggls

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying... can you give me an example?

live sex do com was replaced with live jas dot com for live sex on #1 and some AWE wl's ranked for high competitive cam terms was replaced with live jsm dot com

[zerovic]

weird stuff...i also got the notice from google, but all i see is traffic increasing...one of my whitelabels now gets over 10x more traffic then before lol

[VforVendetta]

If AWE wls have been panalyzed by google, the next one will be WebcamzWiz, Streamate and all the others wls. I think Google added an algorithm update to hit all the AWE wls, so they will do the same for all the other wls.

Awe should update all the wls in a flash version, like the new version of livejasmin, with the possibility to customize and add custom text...the important thing is a new wl version with few indexed pages

[2intense]

Originally Posted by VforVendetta

If AWE wls have been panalyzed by google, the next one will be WebcamzWiz, Streamate and all the others wls. I think Google added an algorithm update to hit all the AWE wls, so they will do the same for all the other wls.

Awe should update all the wls in a flash version, like the new version of livejasmin, with the possibility to customize and add custom text...the important thing is a new wl version with few indexed pages

webcamwiz was hit once and they made some major changes and looks like they are doing pretty good again.

[dimfizz]

Originally Posted by zerovic

weird stuff...i also got the notice from google, but all i see is traffic increasing...one of my whitelabels now gets over 10x more traffic then before lol

Yes, although the WL I talked about earlier -the one I had on page 1 has now dropped out of site... another one of my AWE whitelabels shot up to page 1 for a number of keywords & I am now getting over 10x's the traffic on this site than I was getting before this all started.

And it started happening at exactly the same time, just 3 days ago. Very FN strange.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by 2intense

then should be the same with streamate wl's,,.

Mh I checked for "camgirls" search term and camgirls.com [streamte wl] is first term in most cases, but not all, depends by country, language... anyway it is first result in some cases so streamate wl looks ok still.
I see cam4 very high in results for cam searches and cam4 does not have whitelabels making it look a copy; in fact I think livejasmin main url itself gone lower in rank as it is same as whitelabel (side effect).

Also while check your ranking-tanking you should use &gl=countrycode to check what happens country by country as results are so different, also language and safesearch on off...

As example tubecamgirl now is #6 for usa search of "cam girl free":
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=of...ree&gl=us&fp=1

But it is #5 in GB (UK) and AU:
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe=...ree&gl=gb&fp=1
http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&safe...ree&gl=au&fp=1

And 5th in canada too:
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&safe=off...ree&gl=ca&fp=1

Its #3 in in germany (despite no any page of site is in german!?):
http://www.google.de/#hl=de&safe=off...free&gl=de&fp=

And its #4 in france (despite no any page of site in french!?):
http://www.google.fr/#hl=fr&safe=off...ree&gl=fr&fp=d

Then for curiosity I change language to french for canada search:
http://www.google.ca/#hl=fr&safe=off...ree&gl=ca&fp=1

And results are different from ones of english canada, the fr. hosts of cam4 and chaturbate are in top and choiced, by luck tubecamgirl is same #5 spot as english Canada.

Now if google it is so smart why sites with no any German or French words are ranking so high in google germany and france? Ok I searched for "free" which is an english word... Not complaining myself, just wondering

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by VforVendetta

If AWE wls have been panalyzed by google, the next one will be WebcamzWiz, Streamate and all the others wls. I think Google added an algorithm update to hit all the AWE wls, so they will do the same for all the other wls.

i got hitted too with my AWE WL.
its strange that AWE whitelabels got hit as first, since they provide best customization (individualization) of webcam WLs, eg. own titles, own metatags, own texts, own backlinks and so on..

[ctggls]

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

i got hitted too with my AWE WL.
its strange that AWE whitelabels got hit as first, since they provide best customization (individualization) of webcam WLs, eg. own titles, own metatags, own texts, own backlinks and so on..

I think AWE did something fishy....

[ctggls]

Originally Posted by dimfizz

Yes, although the WL I talked about earlier -the one I had on page 1 has now dropped out of site... another one of my AWE whitelabels shot up to page 1 for a number of keywords & I am now getting over 10x's the traffic on this site than I was getting before this all started.

And it started happening at exactly the same time, just 3 days ago. Very FN strange.

AWE WL or some other WL?

[oppoten]

This was bound to happen.

If Google saw fit to penalize affiliate sites with much unique content, then it was obvious white labels would be next in the firing line. Amazes me they weren't penalized sooner.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by oppoten

This was bound to happen.

If Google saw fit to penalize affiliate sites with much unique content, then it was obvious white labels would be next in the firing line. Amazes me they weren't penalized sooner.

shitty text that nobody read not mean unique content and even not quality.............

when u search for porn u don't need fucking text ,u need movies,pics,cams etc no fucking unique text ,when google fuckers wank i don;t think they read some unique text

[ctggls]

Anyone got a response from AWE?

[2intense]

Originally Posted by ctggls

Anyone got a response from AWE?

awe don't fucking care.their main site replaced all our wl's ranked for high competitive keywords after doing hard and long work on them.they are doing great now taking 100% of sales

[Fat Panda]

Did they insert rel="canonical" pointing to LiveJasmin into all white labels?

AEBN did this to all white label theaters a while back and basically grabbed all the white lable theater serps.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by sac

did they insert rel="canonical" pointing to livejasmin into all white labels?

Aebn did this to all white label theaters a while back and basically grabbed all the white lable theater serps.

no........................

[livegirlsonbed]

http://www.google.com/#q=link:http:/...1680&b ih=934

"Paid" link penalty. All awe wl's have a link on splash pages pointed to oranum what can be interpreted by gxxgle bots as back links from non relevant sites what sell links. All links pointed to Oranum from splash pages pass link juice and page rank, so I'm not surprised why all AWE wls are out of SERP in G.

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by 2intense

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when u search for porn u don't need fucking text ,u need movies,pics,cams etc no fucking unique text ,when google fuckers wank i don;t think they read some unique text

only google reads the text nowadays :-)

[ctggls]

Originally Posted by livegirlsonbed

http://www.google.com/#q=link:http:/...1680&b ih=934

"Paid" link penalty. All awe wl's have a link on splash pages pointed to oranum what can be interpreted by gxxgle bots as back links from non relevant sites what sell links. All links pointed to Oranum from splash pages pass link juice and page rank, so I'm not surprised why all AWE wls are out of SERP in G.

Ahhhh! Many thanks livegirlssonbed! I read in the thread that they were pointing links to oranum but I've searched everywhere and could not find it... because it was on the fucking splash page )) ... What a stupid way to do business...

[ctggls]

Originally Posted by 2intense

awe don't fucking care.their main site replaced all our wl's ranked for high competitive keywords after doing hard and long work on them.they are doing great now taking 100% of sales

i think it's what livegirlsonbed said, with the link in the splash....