Too many sponsors with payment problems... - GoFuckYourself.com

vanbest · 10-05-2012, 05:23 AM

Within the first 7 pages from gfy.com, there are lots of complaints from various webmasters in regards to traffic and payment issues... what the fuck does this mean? My problem is solely with Clickmemedia, they haven't paid from a long time despite everything's still recorded and all servers are up and running... As I've previously posted, I'll continue to post until clickmemedia will pay.
FYI, here are some (original titles) threads with sponsor's problems:
DungeonBank no payment
Click Me Media is not paying for long time, who knows more ?
Cashx gone? kaput? adios?
anyone from MOFOSCASH.com
simonsscans stopped paying??
Hey FSC...Wheres The Money?
FreePornBlogger.com dead?
PureCashMasters - Fraud and Scam!
Purecashmasters fake payments!!!
Does wetdollars.com pay ?
Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Eachone will decide either or not it's ok to (still) promote these (already) scammers!!!

I repeat, I don't care about other programs since I'm not using them, Click Me Media is the only one that I would like to let know other future wm's about its problems. Obvious I'll apologize to CMM ONLY IF THEY'LL PROVE ME WRONG but, regretfully, so far, there's no answer whatsoever!

freecartoonporn · 10-05-2012, 05:50 AM

Simple, Promote CCBILL Only.

CurrentlySober · 10-05-2012, 06:27 AM

Exactly... Thats why I just like poo..

vanbest · 10-05-2012, 06:42 AM

CCBill did great with BVF as well as with other programs but very few of them managed to renew their content... Now, the internet is flooded with old content and free porn via tube sites. In my opinion CCBill is nothing but a card processor and anyone can become a client/affiliate.

BTW I've pointed out this sponsors ' issue only for the LISTED ones. I want to be paid for the signups reffered to Clickmemedia

michael.kickass · 10-05-2012, 06:54 AM

you will not find a payment issue... never! see sig

PR_Glen · 10-05-2012, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

Simple, Promote CCBILL Only.

I'm sure ccbill is great and have been trustworthy for years, however they are not the only ones.. sorry.. this is bullshit.

jscott · 10-05-2012, 07:05 AM

Dont forget....

TNA Cash Aron Simpson scammed a lot of affiliates, he's still around and still accepts new affiliates to his program so BEWARE!!!
http://jscottcash.com/blacklist.php

adultmobile · 10-05-2012, 07:19 AM

Affiliate payments in motion

vanbest · 10-05-2012, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

I'm sure ccbill is great and have been trustworthy for years, however they are not the only ones.. sorry.. this is bullshit.

I agree with Glen, I am promoting Pimproll, too and they're (still) paying alright so far that's why I haven't said anything bad about other sponsors.

Kenny B! · 10-05-2012, 08:23 AM

The whole "promote ccbill programs" line is BS... what happens if and when something happens there? Don't keep all your eggs in one basket, plain and simple.

adultmobile · 10-05-2012, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

The whole "promote ccbill programs" line is BS... what happens if and when something happens there? Don't keep all your eggs in one basket, plain and simple.

You mean ccbill to be the next Epassporte?

seeme · 10-05-2012, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

The whole "promote ccbill programs" line is BS... what happens if and when something happens there? Don't keep all your eggs in one basket, plain and simple.

Exactly, I experienced this when they moved our account and messed it up.

Kenny B! · 10-05-2012, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

You mean ccbill to be the next Epassporte?

Not at all. No one knows what the future holds, which is why having multiple billers for paysite owners is a good idea and having multiple sources of payments from sponsors is a good idea.

Limit your risk is all I'm saying.

Wizzo · 10-05-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

Simple, Promote CCBILL Only.

Here's one he forgot to post:

ccbill checks late

I have nothing bad to say about ccbill, but to say they are the only reliable ones simply isn't true.

femdomdestiny · 10-05-2012, 12:53 PM

bondagebank.com stopped responding to emails regarding sales

signupdamnit · 10-05-2012, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Here's one he forgot to post:

ccbill checks late

I have nothing bad to say about ccbill, but to say they are the only reliable ones simply isn't true.

They are technically one day late here. It's not really "late, late" until they are a week behind. Most webmasters don't care about a few days. We care about weeks or months. We care about continually having to beg for our money.

There are still some good sponsors out there not on CCBill but you have to be very selective. Know who you are dealing with and their past. History tends to repeat itself.

signupdamnit · 10-05-2012, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

bondagebank.com stopped responding to emails regarding sales

Are they behind in payments for you or are they just not responding to emails?

signupdamnit · 10-05-2012, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

The whole "promote ccbill programs" line is BS... what happens if and when something happens there? Don't keep all your eggs in one basket, plain and simple.

If CCBill goes down at least half the industry will go down with it. The fallout will be ten times worse than epassporte. You'll see 90% of affiliates and probably 75% of the smaller sponsors leave the industry.

femdomdestiny · 10-05-2012, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Are they behind in payments for you or are they just not responding to emails?

Ive just got email from them. I dont know is posting here motivatéd them. Anyway', it is about their transfer from mpa3 to NATS and some sales were lost but I guess it will be sorted out now

adultmobile · 10-05-2012, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

If CCBill goes down at least half the industry will go down with it. The fallout will be ten times worse than epassporte. You'll see 90% of affiliates and probably 75% of the smaller sponsors leave the industry.

Cam and dating sites do not use ccbill much. So would go down half the member sites but not the cam and dating one really. We have 6 billers on our cam sites: vxsbill, clickandbuy, paysite-cash, epoch, zombaio, segpay. No ccbill

Myfreecams, streamate, livejasmin do not use ccbill. Any dating site using ccbill?

Anyway, I don't think any biller is going to end up as Epassporte or Ibill (for who got more memory). The non-payments it is simply from each single affiliate program owner who use custom pay systems. Esp. those who change many names after each non-payment closing.

vanbest · 10-06-2012, 03:24 PM

Fuck-off with CCBill! I don't fucking care about them at this point... It's about Clickmemedia now....

Zeiss · 10-06-2012, 03:31 PM

And who the fuck are those fucks?

The Ghost · 10-07-2012, 12:59 AM

See sig.

Since the start of IslandDollars we've paid on-time 2x every single month for the last 6 yrs and 4 months. And every week new exclusive content updates on our sites that we shoot ourselves.

The best of the best in Tranny and bargirls.

NaughtyRob · 10-07-2012, 08:43 AM

The solution if you are an affiliate, try out some CCBill programs. Check out ours... high ratio convertions with all exclusive content.

http://www.ghostcash.com
http://www.butterflybucks.com

vanbest · 10-08-2012, 02:18 PM

Could this be a strategy from Clickme? silence? silenzio stampa? or they're just dead and burried/emprisonned/hospital patients?

Whoever is into voodoo and has been scammed by clickmemedia should kill a rooster/hen and stick some needles into a puppet until (the) those mother fuckers will pay, I'm not sure if I should talk at plural or it's just a single sucker playing us.

Is anyone here still promoting them?

vanbest · 10-11-2012, 09:54 AM

Any news yet? Did anyone had sign-ups lately?

vanbest · 10-15-2012, 11:02 AM

Would it be correct to assume that no one is promoting anymore Clickmemedia or it's just a lack of thread visibility?

Sarah_Jayne · 10-15-2012, 01:06 PM

Pretty much what I wrote about in my Xbiz column this month. It reminds me of the old days when people used to report who paid vs who didn't.

SmutHammer · 10-15-2012, 01:17 PM

Bump for more CcBill programs like us

Crazy Enough · 10-15-2012, 01:24 PM

Maybe the money is on the table too...

kazbalah · 10-16-2012, 01:44 AM

I think mofoscash was a manwin company, i doubt manwin isnt paying people, we would hear 1000 threads come up here if that was the case.

vanbest · 10-23-2012, 05:20 AM

Bump again!

vanbest · 10-26-2012, 12:21 AM

Привет новичок!
Чтобы зарегистрироваться в чате, используй команду !ник (твой ник). Например: !ник Андрей (не забывай ставить знак ! перед командой).
Не посылайте одинаковых сообщений и сообщения чаще 5 сек.

This is what I've got from the, i guess what it used to be, James's ICQ 8788771... I haven't google-transalated it but I think it's an off-line message about being busy or something, don't know.

Look Chang · 10-26-2012, 04:20 AM

CCBill with cascading payment option is THE solution for sponsors and affliates

freecartoonporn · 10-26-2012, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Look Chang

CCBill with cascading payment option is THE solution for sponsors and affliates

qft,

i dont give a shit for non ccbill programs,

for non ccbill programms and think they are legit.

1. why the fuck min 100 or 100+ bucks to cash out ?

i made money i want out. period .

good luck to non ccbill programs .

DWB · 10-26-2012, 05:25 AM

Porn 101: All of the top industry brands and 3rd party processors are awesome and trustworthy until the day they decide to pull a Mallick or an Ibill.

Penny24Seven · 10-26-2012, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

Porn 101: All of the top industry brands and 3rd party processors are awesome and trustworthy until the day they decide to pull a Mallick or an Ibill.

sounds right to me, they were all doing great and then bam your fucked. After ibill but before epass there was one I used and it was the bees knees and gone just like that. I cannot even remember the fucking name but they owed me over 10K with their 3-4 week delay in making payments

DWB · 10-26-2012, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837

sounds right to me, they were all doing great and then bam your fucked. After ibill but before epass there was one I used and it was the bees knees and gone just like that. I cannot even remember the fucking name but they owed me over 10K with their 3-4 week delay in making payments

Globill?

They got me too.

vanbest · 10-30-2012, 12:10 AM

It's getting pretty obvious that whoever is behind clickmemedia is ignoring us...

blonda80 · 10-30-2012, 02:09 AM

the sponsor in my sig is paying ALWAYS on time since ALWAYS and its not a ccbill program!

Paul Markham · 10-30-2012, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

Porn 101: All of the top industry brands and 3rd party processors are awesome and trustworthy until the day they decide to pull a Mallick or an Ibill.

The industry is shrinking fast. Sites are closing and running on show strings. The big sites are all that's left, until they decide a Tube site is cheaper than affiliates.

You can post it's not until you're blue in the face. All the sponsors posting the opposite, go figure why they would do that on a board with mostly affiliates reading.

Look at all the "spam me sites that convert" threads and those replying.

vanbest · 11-01-2012, 11:15 AM

it`s a twisted situation, true, it`s the other way around... At least I`m trying to let other potential WM`s know this shit about Clickmemedia so they can avoid working for an asshole who is ignoring its partners. As there is a balance floating around, I am sure he will not enjoy the stolen money, sooner or later he will pay for that, one way or another!

Rochard · 11-01-2012, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

Simple, Promote CCBILL Only.

Bingo. Never missed a payment.

Sam - Mr. Skin · 11-01-2012, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

The whole "promote ccbill programs" line is BS... what happens if and when something happens there? Don't keep all your eggs in one basket, plain and simple.

vanbest · 11-06-2012, 12:03 AM

http://osticket.com/ is Clickmemedia's main Support Ticket System which holds all the billing and account matters. Therefore, I've send them a request asking to know if CCM is still their client/affiliate, hopefully they might disclose this so I can post on this forum.

If you're interested about this you can send them, too, this questions or post on their own forum or, for cheking account wtsbank.com, at http://www.achdebit.com/membership.php

VenusBlogger · 11-06-2012, 12:34 AM

its 2012... move on, the biz is done.

unless u want to fall into the cams+dating SCAM and ILLEGAL business model.

but i dont recommend it, get some HONEST and DECENT job instead...

period.

femdomdestiny · 11-06-2012, 01:37 AM

I am having problems with getting answers from bondagebank now.

greg1 · 11-06-2012, 01:40 AM

Bump for more CcBill programs like us

vanbest · 11-06-2012, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg1

Bump for more CcBill programs like us

Off topic... please stay focused on the actual thread, thanks.

vanbest · 11-15-2012, 01:43 AM

All right, since whoever is behind Clickmemedia is ignoring us through all aspects, I'm thinking that we can be creative and curse the mother fucker(s) for not paying what he/she/they owe us:

-Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit!
-I hope you die!
-Lick everyone's balls and suck all the unwashed dicks in the world, you fucking scumbag!

-Suck your mother's ass and eat shit!

10-05-2012, 05:23 AM	#1
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	Too many sponsors with payment problems... Within the first 7 pages from gfy.com, there are lots of complaints from various webmasters in regards to traffic and payment issues... what the fuck does this mean? My problem is solely with Clickmemedia, they haven't paid from a long time despite everything's still recorded and all servers are up and running... As I've previously posted, I'll continue to post until clickmemedia will pay. FYI, here are some (original titles) threads with sponsor's problems: DungeonBank no payment Click Me Media is not paying for long time, who knows more ? Cashx gone? kaput? adios? anyone from MOFOSCASH.com simonsscans stopped paying?? Hey FSC...Wheres The Money? FreePornBlogger.com dead? PureCashMasters - Fraud and Scam! Purecashmasters fake payments!!! Does wetdollars.com pay ? Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Eachone will decide either or not it's ok to (still) promote these (already) scammers!!! I repeat, I don't care about other programs since I'm not using them, Click Me Media is the only one that I would like to let know other future wm's about its problems. Obvious I'll apologize to CMM ONLY IF THEY'LL PROVE ME WRONG but, regretfully, so far, there's no answer whatsoever!

10-05-2012, 05:50 AM	#2
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10-05-2012, 06:27 AM	#3
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10-05-2012, 06:42 AM	#4
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	CCBill did great with BVF as well as with other programs but very few of them managed to renew their content... Now, the internet is flooded with old content and free porn via tube sites. In my opinion CCBill is nothing but a card processor and anyone can become a client/affiliate. BTW I've pointed out this sponsors ' issue only for the LISTED ones. I want to be paid for the signups reffered to Clickmemedia Last edited by vanbest; 10-05-2012 at 06:48 AM.. Reason: adding idea

10-05-2012, 06:54 AM	#5
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10-05-2012, 07:05 AM	#7
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10-05-2012, 07:19 AM	#8
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10-05-2012, 08:23 AM	#10
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10-05-2012, 12:53 PM	#15
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10-06-2012, 03:24 PM	#21
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	Fuck-off with CCBill! I don't fucking care about them at this point... It's about Clickmemedia now....

10-06-2012, 03:31 PM	#22
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10-07-2012, 12:59 AM	#23
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10-07-2012, 08:43 AM	#24
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10-08-2012, 02:18 PM	#25
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	Could this be a strategy from Clickme? silence? silenzio stampa? or they're just dead and burried/emprisonned/hospital patients? Whoever is into voodoo and has been scammed by clickmemedia should kill a rooster/hen and stick some needles into a puppet until (the) those mother fuckers will pay, I'm not sure if I should talk at plural or it's just a single sucker playing us. Is anyone here still promoting them?

10-11-2012, 09:54 AM	#26
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	Any news yet? Did anyone had sign-ups lately?

10-15-2012, 11:02 AM	#27
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	Would it be correct to assume that no one is promoting anymore Clickmemedia or it's just a lack of thread visibility?

10-15-2012, 01:06 PM	#28
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	Pretty much what I wrote about in my Xbiz column this month. It reminds me of the old days when people used to report who paid vs who didn't.

10-15-2012, 01:17 PM	#29
SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,104	Bump for more CcBill programs like us

10-15-2012, 01:24 PM	#30
Crazy Enough Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 449	Maybe the money is on the table too...

10-16-2012, 01:44 AM	#31
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10-23-2012, 05:20 AM	#32
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	Bump again!

10-26-2012, 12:21 AM	#33
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	Привет новичок! Чтобы зарегистрироваться в чате, используй команду !ник (твой ник). Например: !ник Андрей (не забывай ставить знак ! перед командой). Не посылайте одинаковых сообщений и сообщения чаще 5 сек. This is what I've got from the, i guess what it used to be, James's ICQ 8788771... I haven't google-transalated it but I think it's an off-line message about being busy or something, don't know. Last edited by vanbest; 10-26-2012 at 12:27 AM.. Reason: adding

10-26-2012, 04:20 AM	#34
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10-26-2012, 05:25 AM	#36
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10-30-2012, 12:10 AM	#39
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	It's getting pretty obvious that whoever is behind clickmemedia is ignoring us...

10-30-2012, 02:09 AM	#40
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11-01-2012, 11:15 AM	#42
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	it`s a twisted situation, true, it`s the other way around... At least I`m trying to let other potential WM`s know this shit about Clickmemedia so they can avoid working for an asshole who is ignoring its partners. As there is a balance floating around, I am sure he will not enjoy the stolen money, sooner or later he will pay for that, one way or another!

11-06-2012, 12:03 AM	#45
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	http://osticket.com/ is Clickmemedia's main Support Ticket System which holds all the billing and account matters. Therefore, I've send them a request asking to know if CCM is still their client/affiliate, hopefully they might disclose this so I can post on this forum. If you're interested about this you can send them, too, this questions or post on their own forum or, for cheking account wtsbank.com, at http://www.achdebit.com/membership.php

11-06-2012, 12:34 AM	#46
VenusBlogger So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,540	its 2012... move on, the biz is done. unless u want to fall into the cams+dating SCAM and ILLEGAL business model. but i dont recommend it, get some HONEST and DECENT job instead... period.

11-06-2012, 01:37 AM	#47
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11-06-2012, 01:40 AM	#48
greg1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 140	Bump for more CcBill programs like us

11-15-2012, 01:43 AM	#50
vanbest Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 240	All right, since whoever is behind Clickmemedia is ignoring us through all aspects, I'm thinking that we can be creative and curse the mother fucker(s) for not paying what he/she/they owe us: -Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit! -I hope you die! -Lick everyone's balls and suck all the unwashed dicks in the world, you fucking scumbag! -Suck your mother's ass and eat shit!