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Old 10-08-2011, 11:54 AM   #1
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Paxum worries me ...

I am thinking of using Paxum or Payoneer... but a few things really worries me with Paxum... and please help me get rid of those worries.


1) They have a background from a penis pill company...and still runs it. Everyone know that penis pill is just fake and you are robbing ppl, thats just fact. Now it worries me a bit that people that think it is ok to sell fake products is now holding my money?... correct me if I am wrong or has missed something.

2) Physical location... searching some old post and they seems to be finding is a UPS store or a boxed office space... nothing direct wrong..just red flags

3) The changing story about owners...several threads... red flag

4) Michael O first, then Yngwie seems to be leaving the boat first year...why? Wouldn't it be awesome to be a part of this ship sailing to success islands if everything was ok? Or have they found something we don't see? red flag

5) They say that they have CA FSA License which any company can get just by registering to the FSA. nohing wrong with that, just some false security...

So my worries... if the shit hit the fan, and the company face some big trouble with the bank as epass did. And trouble will come one day...thats just how business works... Is this the team that have the potential to back up financials and to trust with my hard earned money? Or will they run away... I'm far from sure... but there probably is no better alternative....?

Am I too hard or is there more sharing my thoughts? They seem to have a good product, nice pricing and nice support.


Payoneer on the other hand seems to be a huge organized company... but with a less better product over all as it seems....

Risk wise I would choose Payoneer.... feature wise Paxum....
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Interesting, I too would like answers
definitely good to bring up questions like these seeing what the past has thrown up.
So far so good, but hey the same was true with epass when it was running well
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Don't use it as a bank.


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Problem solved.
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......or if you can just don't use any of them.
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indeed Have not had any problems with them at all so far !
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Payoneer has been linked to international terrorism. The terrorists (over 20 of them) all used Payoneer cards to fund their terrorism. The Payoneer CEO at the time was at one time a member of that terrorist cell.

Paxum might be a new company but at least they aren't involved in terrorism and murder.
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Payoneer has been linked to international terrorism. The terrorists (over 20 of them) all used Payoneer cards to fund their terrorism. The Payoneer CEO at the time was at one time a member of that terrorist cell.

Paxum might be a new company but at least they aren't involved in terrorism and murder.
FYI, Paxum banks at a bank that's owned by Payoneer.
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A Paxum employee, who can name himself if he wishes, has contacted me to say that I am not correct about Payoneer owning Choice Bank.

The information I have gotten from another source is that Payoneer owns a large, and possibly the controling interest, in that particular bank.

I think it's important to state here that I don't have any documentation or real insider knowledge on this matter, I just know what I was told from somebody inside the Payoneer organization.

As I don't have a dog in this fight (I don't work or deal with either company) and I don't have a reliable source I can quote as being an absolute authority on the issue, it's probably best I just withdraw my statement all together.

I'll take Paxum's word for it that Payoneer doesn't own Choice bank because I have no reason to believe they are trying to hide anything. Sorry for any confusion.
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Oh ... worries is not the word! Every time I see my statement I feel a little heart attack. It's a fucking stress!
So don't worry, be happy. Just transfer funds to my account and you won't worry ... and I'll be happy
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Payoneer has been linked to international terrorism. The terrorists (over 20 of them) all used Payoneer cards to fund their terrorism. The Payoneer CEO at the time was at one time a member of that terrorist cell.

Paxum might be a new company but at least they aren't involved in terrorism and murder.
I agree 100% that mossad is a terrorist organization, they just aren't labeled as such because of their ally, the usa.
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Payoneer fucks you over with fees. So its your choice.
Also, go to walmart pharmacy. See how many hokum bullshit products you can find. It's the same as penis pills if you ask me - not exactly full of integrity, but lets not pretend its not all around us.
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paxum and payoneer have similar fees. payoneers are slightly higher and paxum's are more hidden.
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Did not know about the terrorist thing with Payoneer... I guess I will go with Paxum... but I'm still worried ...
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Did not know about the terrorist thing with Payoneer... I guess I will go with Paxum... but I'm still worried ...
Keep your balance to a minimum ... We do not need another epassporte ordeal ...
If your sales are significant.. perhaps you can arrange a behind closed doors payment by Pay Pal ...
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Payoneer has been linked to international terrorism. The terrorists (over 20 of them) all used Payoneer cards to fund their terrorism. The Payoneer CEO at the time was at one time a member of that terrorist cell.

Paxum might be a new company but at least they aren't involved in terrorism and murder.
Is that a joke or are you serious? Do you have any proof?
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Can you please contact me at [email protected] ?

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The bank that Epass used saved your asses as they held the money and released it to its rightful owners, who knows if all banks operate that way for indirect customers.
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Paxum seems standup. They all seem to go offshore w/banking then after 5 or so years disappear lol. If your worried do not retain a large balance.
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Banks worry me

and for payonneer, remember that they are in israel.
Nothing wrong with that, just red flag...



(yes paxum sounds not safe)
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Use money transfer agents for what they are -- they are not insured banks.

We all suffered through the ePassporte demise so there is no excuse to repeat the experience.

From a sponsor's point of view; uploading our funds for payment to models/studios is only to our own ATM cards


However, we do offer Payoneer payments to our affiliates, no disrespect toward Paxum meant, we just set up Payoneer after the ePassporte demise and we understand that affiliates like payment aggregation.

I really hope for future world wide electronic banking but I feel there will always be a demand to an ATM type solution.

Free bankwires are always offered for amounts over 100€. Payment within the EU are available in Single Euro Payments Area (SEPA) direct deposit.


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I was going to start similar thread

I'm really wondering how could they to give it a way with that much clients, money and no experience plus skilled workers on the other hand

It requires just too much for starting up company to make it happen. There's definitely a back story clients are not supposed to know
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I have had no issues with Paxum.
But,it does worry me that they have not posted here yet...
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Get paid, go to the atm, get all your money.... problem solved.
I have taken out $4400 in one sitting, once you shifted it all to the card the atm will spit it all out.
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I am thinking of using Paxum or Payoneer... but a few things really worries me with Paxum... and please help me get rid of those worries.


1) They have a background from a penis pill company...and still runs it. Everyone know that penis pill is just fake and you are robbing ppl, thats just fact. Now it worries me a bit that people that think it is ok to sell fake products is now holding my money?... correct me if I am wrong or has missed something.

2) Physical location... searching some old post and they seems to be finding is a UPS store or a boxed office space... nothing direct wrong..just red flags

3) The changing story about owners...several threads... red flag

4) Michael O first, then Yngwie seems to be leaving the boat first year...why? Wouldn't it be awesome to be a part of this ship sailing to success islands if everything was ok? Or have they found something we don't see? red flag

5) They say that they have CA FSA License which any company can get just by registering to the FSA. nohing wrong with that, just some false security...

So my worries... if the shit hit the fan, and the company face some big trouble with the bank as epass did. And trouble will come one day...thats just how business works... Is this the team that have the potential to back up financials and to trust with my hard earned money? Or will they run away... I'm far from sure... but there probably is no better alternative....?

Am I too hard or is there more sharing my thoughts? They seem to have a good product, nice pricing and nice support.


Payoneer on the other hand seems to be a huge organized company... but with a less better product over all as it seems....

Risk wise I would choose Payoneer.... feature wise Paxum....

1) Not all Penis Pill Products are fake.

2) They are a banking business. Why in the fuck would they allow this information to be made open by the users?

3) I believe it's the same owner no matter what they say is going on.

4) Yngwie left Paxum because they dropped the pay.. Now you need to work your ass off and grow a company that doesn't even pay a support/ hourly fee.

5) The Financial Services Firm can suck my balls

It will all end in Greed my friend. Everything comes to an end.
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fake or not, this is illegal here...
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As said above: donīt use either Paxum or Payoneer as a bank, and you will be fine. I never have more than $500-1000 on either account. Same with ePass. Only lost a couple of bucks when that one sunk.
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Lesson learned from epass.... receive your Paxum, take it ALL out asap = no worries.
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I am thinking of using Paxum or Payoneer... but a few things really worries me with Paxum... and please help me get rid of those worries.


1) They have a background from a penis pill company...and still runs it. Everyone know that penis pill is just fake and you are robbing ppl, thats just fact. Now it worries me a bit that people that think it is ok to sell fake products is now holding my money?... correct me if I am wrong or has missed something.

2) Physical location... searching some old post and they seems to be finding is a UPS store or a boxed office space... nothing direct wrong..just red flags

3) The changing story about owners...several threads... red flag

4) Michael O first, then Yngwie seems to be leaving the boat first year...why? Wouldn't it be awesome to be a part of this ship sailing to success islands if everything was ok? Or have they found something we don't see? red flag

5) They say that they have CA FSA License which any company can get just by registering to the FSA. nohing wrong with that, just some false security...

So my worries... if the shit hit the fan, and the company face some big trouble with the bank as epass did. And trouble will come one day...thats just how business works... Is this the team that have the potential to back up financials and to trust with my hard earned money? Or will they run away... I'm far from sure... but there probably is no better alternative....?

Am I too hard or is there more sharing my thoughts? They seem to have a good product, nice pricing and nice support.


Payoneer on the other hand seems to be a huge organized company... but with a less better product over all as it seems....

Risk wise I would choose Payoneer.... feature wise Paxum....
Hi Porn500,

Thanks for your interest in Paxum. I hope to be able to address your concerns, and I'd be happy to answer any questions here or directly via IM or email (my contact info is in my signature)

1) The owner of Paxum, Octav Moise, has successfully been in business for well over a decade. Herbal supplements and penis enhancement may be controversial, however no matter what your view of the specific business itself, the fact that the company has shown consistent growth and performance over a 10 year plus period, shows the caliber of the people in charge.

2) Our office situation has been resolved in several of the threads you cite. We are more than happy to welcome any of our clients to visit our offices should they desire. If you'd like to arrange a meeting, please get in touch with me directly and we can definitely set something up.

3) Octav Moise is the owner of Paxum.

4) Employee issues, as with most companies, are private and confidential and we do not discuss such issues on a public forum. I can share my own personal opinion though. As an employee of Paxum for over a year i can solidly state that I am treated fairly. My performance is rewarded, and that goes the same for the performance of all sales/support staff. Performance is rewarded with Paxum.

5) Paxum is registered with FINTRAC, the Government reporting agency in Canada that ALL Money Services Businesses MUST be registered with. You can't just apply and receive accreditation, you must meet their requirements and follow certain rules and regulations in order to qualify.

Here at Paxum we understand the need for flexibility should anything untoward occur. As such, we have several banking partners established so that we can seamlessly switch if absolutely necessary. We have had ZERO issues with our banking partners.

As I said, I'd be happy to address any other questions or concerns you may have. It's understandable to be dubious when dealing with new payment options, and we're here to answer your queries so you can feel confident moving forward in business with us.

As you can probably tell already, a large portion of Adult Sponsor Programs offer Paxum as a payment option, and we are proving highly popular with our clients, both business and personal alike. There's a reason we've grown so fast, and I invite you to signup with us to see for yourself why more adult webmasters and sponsor programs choose Paxum for their alternative payment needs.

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Don't use it as a bank.


Problem solved.
Paxum is not a bank, and we encourage our clients to use the Paxum card to withdraw their funds instantly and with low fees to boot!

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il take the risk, and il cashout balance every week very happy with no check hassle
We appreciate your business seeandsee!

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indeed Have not had any problems with them at all so far !
Thanks JFK!

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paxum and payoneer have similar fees. payoneers are slightly higher and paxum's are more hidden.
pornojew - ALL Paxum fees are clearly stated on our website. We have NO HIDDEN FEES whatsoever.
Please don't make false claims about our company.

https://www.paxum.com/payment/fees.p...views/fees.xsl


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I was going to start similar thread

I'm really wondering how could they to give it a way with that much clients, money and no experience plus skilled workers on the other hand

It requires just too much for starting up company to make it happen. There's definitely a back story clients are not supposed to know
The answer is pretty simple. Back in 2007 a successful businessman decided to expand his business interests, and as a result Paxum was born. There is no underlying conspiracy, purely someone who has done exceptionally well in business and is diversifying.

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I have had no issues with Paxum.
But,it does worry me that they have not posted here yet...
Hey topsiteking,
My in-laws were visiting from Canada and it was my hubby's birthday on Sunday, so I was just gone for the weekend and didn't get online! I hope you feel more at ease now that we've posted

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As said above: donīt use either Paxum or Payoneer as a bank, and you will be fine. I never have more than $500-1000 on either account. Same with ePass. Only lost a couple of bucks when that one sunk.
Thanks for using Paxum Horny Joe!

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Lesson learned from epass.... receive your Paxum, take it ALL out asap = no worries.
Since loading from Paxum Checking to Paxum Mastercard is instant, it's incredibly easy to access your funds immediately with Paxum.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me directly at ANY time:

ICQ #233-854-608
AIM/YM/SKYPE - PaxumRuth
Email - [email protected]

Oh, and last, but certainly not least....

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving folks!!
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:03 AM   #45
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My 2 cents on why I left Paxum.

I were with Paxum 2 months, I got Dengue fever which took me out of action for a couple of weeks and I never really got started with Paxum then I got an offer from Zombaio/RedPass I could not refuse for both professional and personal reasons. (helping developing RedPass / Office is 100km from where I grew up).
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:06 AM   #46
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me turning around and leaving
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:09 AM   #47
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so where is RedPass?
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:39 AM   #48
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Time is money. Paxum saves you time. My time is valued at about $125 an hour. Wire fees cost you money. Paxum keeps your time spent dealing with checks lower and costs way less than wires.

If your time is valued at 20 dollars an hour or less paxum might not be a good option.
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