Attention TushyCash !!!! Major drama inside!!!!!

[Shy Love]

So lets start from the beginning. Joe Loughlin in the past has owed me a lot of money and has not paid it to ATM/LA or A List. I decided to let bygones be bygones and get over the past and try to work with Joe once again. I was thinking maybe its in the best interest of my girls to get them as much work as possible but I guess I was wrong.


So I get a email from Joe stating exact word, ?Hi Shy this is Joe. I work pretty much strictly for Tushy Cash now and he likes some girls on your site and instead of me trying to find girls on my own, I think its best if we put past issues behind us and I apologize for those past issues. I will pay cash same day for all bookings and cash agency fee same day also if that makes you more comfortable. I dont wanna cut my client out because we had a little tif. LMK your thoughts.?


Anyway I ended up booking Britney Amber for a BG massage scene and a GG ass licking scene for $1600 for today, let me start off by stating Britney is a very sweet girl but is very tuff and does not scare easy and I have represented her since 2008. She gets to set and everything is fine she finishes her bg scene. Then Joe tell her its time for her GG scenes. She was like what? He told her yes your doing 2 GGA now. She told him no I am not I was booked for a BG and 1 GG scene not 2 and I was never booked for anal. Joe starts going crazy and starts screaming and yelling cursing her out. Of course she then call me. I told her Britney you are 100% correct its only 1 BG and 1 GG and no anal. He gets on the phone with me very upsets and I tell Joe since when do I book GGA at $300. He gets upset and starts screaming, yelling cursing and tell me to go fuck myself. Britney gets back on the phone with me and tells me give me a few I will talk to him and come to an agreement. She tells him she will do the 2 GGA with no problem as long as they came to an agreement on they pay. She calls me back from the bathroom crying and tells me Joe is furious and is screaming and cursing her out and threatening her and she has never been so scared for her life like she was that moment. He gives her the $1000 for the BG and tells her to get the hell out. She tells me that she thinks that he may be on drugs and in all the years she has been in porn she has never been treated this way or threatened.

MORE COMING

[CaptainHowdy]

[~Ray]

what is that guys name that owns tushycash? he goes by "escort biz"

[Nicky]

Oh the drama

[B.Barnato]

oh dear, this thread should provide for some interesting reading

[LeRoy]

That doesnt sound like Joe IMO

[bean-aid]

Maybe AMA joe could chime in

[nikki99]

sounds like a typical American producer to me

[RycEric]

doesn't surprise me one bit

[Rochard]

This will be fun!

[Brujah]

Shame on you Joe.

[Brujah]

Btw, Britney was great in the Brazzer's video contest.

[Shy Love]

PROBLEMS WITH AMA CONTENT/ JOE LOUGHLIN
Within seconds I start getting text from Joe telling me to go fuck myself and stating that I am a thief and a robber and I should get whacked. He also said he wasn’t paying me my fee and that he was going to book my girls directly via facebook. He is still texting cursing me out and threatening me.


So first I want TUSHY CASH to know that Joe will never book my girls again and as long as TUSHY CASH allow directors like Joe to direct and be ok with him threatening, screaming and cursing at talent and agents TUSHY CASH will never be able to book my girls as well.


Second TUSHY CASH should be aware that all my girls are on exclusive contracts with ATM/LA. The reason why I am stating this is because Joe stated he will book my girls directly for TUSHY CASH. Well you should know since I am letting you know of the situation I can and will sue anyone who interferes with my contract for tortuous interference of contract and for financial loses.


Third girls beware to never work for Joe Loughlin, he is violent emotionally and verbally to girls and he scared one of my girls. She thought her life was at risk.


On a final note every month all the agents have agent meeting to discuss business politics. I will be telling but not limited to lA Direct, Speigler Girls, World Modeling, Type 9, Foxx modeling that Joe was violent with my girls she felt that she was in harms way. These agents are not very keen on disrespect and threats to girls as well as to directors booking girls directly behind the agents back.


So TUSHY CASH, the ball is in your court what are you going to do about this?


Next time I will go with my gut feeling and never give people like Joe a second chance. It bit me in the ass


FINALLY IF I GET WHACKED WE KNOW JOE DID IT!!!!!!!!!!

Shy Love
Agent

[tabasco]

[Jim_Gunn]

[Tempest]

The only surprise is why Tushycash has kept him around this long.

[MaDalton]

[L-Pink]

Cut Joe some slack, he's suffering from Combat Stress Disorder. Suffered when he found himself surrounded by crazed Canadian hippy hockey fans at the Stanley Cup final.

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[EscortBiz]

hi people

in the past month joe shot 50+ girls for me, we use ocmodeling, ladirect, type9, biglove, and other agencies with no problems at all.

I check up here and there too and seriously no complaints, this past thursday I contacted oc to thank them and they confirmed both girls loved the shoot (kimmy olsen , nikki daniels)

When I asked joe to book brit amber he told me shes with shy and he really didnt want to work with her, but given the amount of talent I need he went ahead and tried to do his best.

People like to hate on joe but hes one of the most solid reliable guys ive worked with in this biz.

I have not spoken to joe yet, and thanks roy for giving me a heads up on this post.

My shoots are one of the shortest in the business and I have been told by many the easiest.

[EscortBiz]

year or so ago just dave shot her for me great solid 3d scene thats the main reason I wanted to shoot her again,

[Nicky]

There's always 2 sides to a story. It sounds strange if OP would lie though.

[Theo]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

hi people

in the past month joe shot 50+ girls for me

hint for affiliates seeking for exclusive, frequently updated members areas.

[fris]

shy love has nice boobies

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by fris

shy love has nice boobies

I have to agree on this one

[amacontent]

On Jun 20, 2011, at 9:03 AM, joe loughlin wrote:


Shoot info for Brittany Amber June 22

Call time 12 noon

Location - Remmet Studio E 8033 Remmet Ave

Wardrobe- Wardrobe is important so please make sure she brings required items.
Buisness Style outfit with skirt and blouse, Assorted girl next door outfits, skirts, jeans, sun dress, colorful tops. IMPORTANT please bring over the butt pantyhose, fishnets , thigh highs, FULL BOTTOM PANTYS. And assorted footwear

Scenes BG massage set with Marco Banderas , Doctor and Jail set with Kayla Quinn

Please arrive hair and makeup ready. Bring touch up makeup kit.

Same day pay cash $1600 plus $100 agency fee .

Please confirm.


Then she tries to tell me I only booked her for GG asslicking.



In order to avoid confusion on what was expected on set I also sent Shy Love this...well before I confirmed what I wanted Britney for.

On Jun 14, 2011, at 4:09 PM, joe loughlin wrote:


Shy hers is an overview of the sets I book for Tushy so you can maybe print out and have an overview

This is what I mostly shoot these days. If you wanna give me updates on who is available annd fits this criteria feel free to do so.

STRAP ON - www.straponlesbians.com
Dom set where girl basically gets punished for doing something wrong. Set is generally 15 minutes of video and photo set. Positions include over the knee spanking by hand ( spank is very light and more for show than anything ) Dom girl makes the other get undressed, act embarrassed, brief spank over panties and bare butt, then 1 missionary vaginal , and then 3 anal positions. Eaxh position is approximately 2 minutes. Strapon we use is small with small head and condom is used.

JAIL Set - www.cagedtushy.com
Set is 10 minutes of video plus photo set and consists of girl being arrested, then strip searched. Placed over the knee for some light spanking by hand or maybe bent over the desk . Spank is light and for show. Then model is searched anally in 2 positions and vaginal in 1 position. Latex gloves are used and mature female model used unless otherwise specified. Once in awhile we use male model. Also every so often we use a thermometer inserted anally for a minute or so.

Doctor set - www.doctortushy.com
Set is 10 minutes of video plus photos and is basically a doctors visit medical exam with gyno exam. Whats done is heart check, weight check, breast exam , bending over touching toes, then on table finger in vagina, plastic speculum in vagina , finger in the butt and thermometer in the butt. Again latex gloves are used and female doctor unless otherwise specified.

Massage set - www.tushymassage.com
Set is 10 minutes of video plus photos and activities are girl comes in for massage, strip down, oil massage on back and front, finger inserion in vagina , ass licking and finger or small toy ( depending on model) inserted anally. We sometimes switch it out and use a male talent for set with handjob or hardcore sex scene. Sometimes BGA as expected will will notify of what we are doing but mostly its the gg type.

Ass Licking - www.tushylickers.com
Set is 10 minutes of video plus photo set. Easiest of the sets I think Just 2 girls fooling around where the main model will have her pussy and mostly butt hole licked. Theres kissing involved at the beginning also. Girl being penetrated in the other sets is the one getting her ass licked unless otherwise specified.

HANDJOB - www.girlfriendhandjobs.com
Sets is 10 minutes plus photo set and is basically romatic style handjob witjh boyfriend/girlfriend type setting. Kissing is encouraged in this set but not mandatory.

Spanking - www.badtushy.com
There are 2 levels for this, light/medium and hard One pays more than the other. This is more for girls who are into this, or medically maybe cant work. Their butts will get red and if its the hard type it will be bruised. We however will stop at any signs of bleeding. The methods we do are over the knee by hand, caning , leather belt and wooden paddle. Not all 4 in 1 set Each method is 1 type of set.

Male fucked by female - www.guysgetfucked.com
This we shoot when we can find guys that fit the role. Set is about 15 minutes long plus photos. Consists of girl dominating and punishing male model verbally and physicaslly. Guy will be spanked by the girl and then anally penetrated with strapon in 4 positions.. 2 minutes per position.

There are times we mix or add stuff to the sets because of member requests or ideas by the client and of course all changes will be informed of but unless notified, these will be the guidelines we use. The most important thing I request is proper wardrobe/ which is alway consiting of FULL BOTTOM panties...not g strings or thongs. ALso we need fishnet thigh highs and over the butt pantyhose. This will always be needed on set. along with the other spcs asked for when we send model / shoot info.

[nikki99]

wud Amber shoot tranny/G?

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Who the fuck do you think you are?
Yelling at a girl to the point of crying locking herself in the bathroom?

Mother fucking Charlie Sheen?

[amacontent]

Also WORD FOR WORD TEXT conversation.

Joe - Shy will britney Amber do gg asslicking , jail and doctor sets

Shy - Yes whats your budget

Joe - I will give her $1600 for jail,doc,and the bg scene.

Shy - What date and yes to the rate.

Joe-Let me check with the other parties and studio.

Joe- Ok lets lock down the 22nd. Ill email you all the shoot info by Monday.

Shy - PERFECT !

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

Who the fuck do you think you are?
Yelling at a girl to the point of crying locking herself in the bathroom?

Mother fucking Charlie Sheen?

Mind your biz AlienQ I was yelling at Shy for jacking rate once girl was on set.

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

She was crying and upset dude.
Yelling at her to the point of tears and afraid?

Really?


Not cool.

[bean-aid]

Seems a bit vague through several channels of communication but clearly, bottom line, 3 scenes were discussed and agreed.

[kaylacam]

She was not crying in the bathroom...she was making accusations and saying she wanted more money! I was THERE! I drove TWO HOURS to come shoot and was instead sent home with a kill fee. Brittany: a gloved finger in your ass for two literal minutes is NOT the same as a g/g anal fuck scene...Joe: NINE YEARS or so I have worked with you, I have always known what I was shooting, what I was getting paid and how much...Shy: Call it a mega-clit all you want, it's still just a small penis. Learn to read the step-by-steps directors email you before you book your talent!

[TubeKing]

Joe in hot water again?

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by TubeKing

Joe in hot water again?

Who knows...

It's more LA crap bullshit...
LA is the house of Retarded whores and used up girls with some of the most fucked up producers the world has ever known.

In other words who knows what the fuck and who gives a shit.

[Qbert]

Originally Posted by kaylacam

She was not crying in the bathroom...she was making accusations and saying she wanted more money! I was THERE! I drove TWO HOURS to come shoot and was instead sent home with a kill fee. Brittany: a gloved finger in your ass for two literal minutes is NOT the same as a g/g anal fuck scene...Joe: NINE YEARS or so I have worked with you, I have always known what I was shooting, what I was getting paid and how much...Shy: Call it a mega-clit all you want, it's still just a small penis. Learn to read the step-by-steps directors email you before you book your talent!

There ya go. Kayla is about as No Bullshit as it gets in this biz. I'm pretty sure that's the most honest assessment of the actual events we're going to get.

From where I sit the OP has some apologies to make.

[Shy Love]

whats funny is you altered the emails. i never agreed to 2 GGA scenes for $600 and beleive me i know for a fact derek at la direct who sticks to his gun with rates isn't either. Look if girls want to lower there rate that is fine but i am not going to book a $300 gg ever.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by Shy Love

whats funny is you altered the emails. i never agreed to 2 GGA scenes for $600 and beleive me i know for a fact derek at la direct who sticks to his gun with rates isn't either. Look if girls want to lower there rate that is fine but i am not going to book a $300 gg ever.

again, no one is here to scam or trick an agent or talent, below is screengrabs joe sent me

[kaylacam]

The emails posted are the same as the ones I read on set. Joe actually gave Brittany a lot of compliments on what she DID shoot...you did not book any GIRL GIRL SCENES...You booked a medical exam and an arrest with strip search ...I just happen to be a girl! I do not even take off my shirt, much less fuck anyone...these are 10-12 minute clips with zero sex involved! Are you SO DAFT you cannot read the scene summaries and figure that out for yourself?!

[Shy Love]

also Joe let's say that a mis communiaction happened about a scene, you still think its ok to threaten girls on set and curse them out. there is no reason for that at all.

you want to quote text

from joe
your going to pay for the shit u pulled today i promise you
Shy - why r u threatening me u want to get arrested
Joe - nopr but i will in public
Shy public info if yo do please state facts and have proof otherwise it's considered slander and derfermation. so please do it so i can sue u it will be great
Joe - slander a pornhoe. Thats a joke
(wow girls in porn are just porn hoes to Joe)
Joe - oh i am gonna fuck with you relentlessly. Already working on your $250k scam
Joe - you fucked with the wrong guy
shy - i never scammed anyone get your facts straight. ur crazy stop texting me i will put a restraining order on you
Joe - do it
Joe - i just crucified you on gfy

If this is a guy girls want to work for wow. no excuse for this behavior.
Believe me i will let the agents see your text messages to me you will never harm another girl emotionally or verbally again.

Britney did not deserve your disrespect

[Shy Love]

also just wanted to say i dont jack up rates on set. why don't you call Brian Bradley, Porno Dan, Zero Tolerance i work with budgets all the time. i have no issues with budgets i have issues with changing scenes on set and threatening girls and making them cry

[waltgator]

Originally Posted by Shy Love

also just wanted to say i dont jack up rates on set. why don't you call Brian Bradley, Porno Dan, Zero Tolerance i work with budgets all the time. i have no issues with budgets i have issues with changing scenes on set and threatening girls and making them cry

ill agree Shy has always been pretty fair, no rate jacking here..known her for awhile

[Spunky]

I think we all need a group hug

[SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN]

Originally Posted by amacontent

Mind your biz AlienQ I was yelling at Shy for jacking rate once girl was on set.

Fuck you Joe fuck you straight to hell you piece of shit!

You have been harassing me til no end slandering my name on these boards, saying that you fear I may do the models harm or so forth.
However it is you who have now been proved to do what you accuse others of. Yelling and screaming at models!

I will most likely see you in jail like your best buddy Antonio Gonzo Gonzales for abusing females.
You could never defend you actions to me for what you have done to models since you were ran out of Las Vegas.

You pulled this shot with me when you pulled a bait and switch on me in 2001.

All you do is lie and scam people Joe Laughlin, now the truth about YOU is finally being revealed.

Shy Love is great agent and talent performer, such a sweetheart and I have never even met her. I just know from our communications.

Joe Laughlin is better off mopping floors at Staples Center where he beats off watching Hockey players.

[waltgator]

Originally Posted by Spunky

I think we all need a group hug

si!

[bean-aid]

derfermation ...

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by Shy Love

also Joe let's say that a mis communiaction happened about a scene, you still think its ok to threaten girls on set and curse them out. there is no reason for that at all.

you want to quote text

from joe
your going to pay for the shit u pulled today i promise you
Shy - why r u threatening me u want to get arrested
Joe - nopr but i will in public
Shy public info if yo do please state facts and have proof otherwise it's considered slander and derfermation. so please do it so i can sue u it will be great
Joe - slander a pornhoe. Thats a joke
(wow girls in porn are just porn hoes to Joe)
Joe - oh i am gonna fuck with you relentlessly. Already working on your $250k scam
Joe - you fucked with the wrong guy
shy - i never scammed anyone get your facts straight. ur crazy stop texting me i will put a restraining order on you
Joe - do it
Joe - i just crucified you on gfy

If this is a guy girls want to work for wow. no excuse for this behavior.
Believe me i will let the agents see your text messages to me you will never harm another girl emotionally or verbally again.

Britney did not deserve your disrespect

like i said joe doesnt shoot one set here and one set here he shoots a ton of scenes, you have always had a problem with him not the other way around, girls show up, they know what they are there for, shoots are easy and fast and everyone is happy.

hes been doing it for way to long for sane people to buy that hes some sorta danger to girls etc.

you started a thread bashing my business, you could of contacted me directly.

We rebook the same girls all the time for more sites, never once was I told sorry she wont work with you because of joe.

[SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN]

Joe will burn himself bad very soon. He has been pulling this shit since 2000

Hey Shy, dont worry about these cock suckers! More programs are coming out as we speak. Fuck these guys!

You have been doing a great Job, Shy

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by SDA CASH

If you associate with Joe, you are just as big of TRASH.

Joe claims he emailed all the agents to not book models with my shoots.

So now in public lets ask all the agents: Have I ever had a problem shooting any models booked the any agencies?

Joe is one of the better guys in this biz, you need to get over whatever happened in 2001, its not healthy to hold grudges that long.

[Kevin Marx]

Originally Posted by Shy Love

Second TUSHY CASH should be aware that all my girls are on exclusive contracts with ATM/LA. The reason why I am stating this is because Joe stated he will book my girls directly for TUSHY CASH. Well you should know since I am letting you know of the situation I can and will sue anyone who interferes with my contract for tortuous interference of contract and for financial loses.

I'm just guessing here, but I would think that models being under contract would be an issue between the contracted parties, rather than 3rd parties. Tortuous interference would probably require someone intentionally knowing there is a contract in place, saying fuck the contract, who cares, and convincing the model to break it. (Hearing on a forum that all girls are under contract seems a little far reaching and vague. Parties subject to a contract are the ones obligated to uphold it, not the world at large that may or may not be aware of what is contained within the contract).

If a model were contacted via Facebook, accepted a gig, and never identified to a shooter that they were under contract, I'm not sure that an agency has recourse against a producer; probably only against the model.

I'm just sayin.....

But then again, I could be 100% wrong... who knows.

This is a very interesting thread so far. Very He said, she said with support for both parties on both sides. I wonder where the truth lies. Hmmmmmmm.

[Shy Love]

yet your still sticking up for his behavior wow