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Car guys ... quick question
Engine fan cuts through plug wire.. car runs like shit.. replace plug wire.. car runs better but still acts like it has a miss it didn't have before that happened
Does that mean that the coil pack it was on arced to itself some how and burned itself up, or what? I made sure that that wire didn't pull other ones loose when it got caught up in the fan... And this is all I can really think of But half of the wire was still on there.. and it should have hurt anything if that wire found a ground, should it? The spark goes through the plugs to ground, anyway, right? |
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Cut through your PLUG wires? Why were they so far forward?
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It sounds like you may need to look deeper into the problem being the cables. You said wire to the plug which I assume are your spark plug cables. Not seeing the car, you may want to check all of the connections and make sure they are solid. You may also need to replace them as they rarely are off by themselves and one of them could have been damaged along with the one that was hitting your fan.
If they are not in the right order, it will definitely miss fire and you may need to look up the firing order to make sure. What confused me was the loose wire still being there. What is that wire? is it a Spark Plug Cable? |
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Make sure the plug is not fouled. Change the plug that was on the cut wire.
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Yeah.. a spark plug wire came out of that holder they all pop into.. you know, the one that holds them all onto the side of the engine so they're not just all over the place I checked all of the connections anywhere near it (like I said - I thought that maybe that wire got caught and pulled another one loose) but it doesn't seem to be a problem Also it looked like it just got cut and it didn't seem like it actually got "caught" on anything |
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That "holder" is your rotor cap or the cap for your electronic ignition. If its a rotor cap, you may want to remove it and check your rotor as well. If the wire cut, it more than likely pulled before it cut and could have damaged that cap as well. I would also check it for damage.
If the car does not have an electronic transmission, there is a small piece inside that rotor called your points and that requires a very fine tuned gap between the two conductor points. If they get out of adjustment, your car will fire improperly. |
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This would be nice because I don't have any tools right now.. but I guess I could go get a ratchet and deep well socket for $3 at some pawn shop though
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Thanks, but I'm not talking about that.. It's just a plastic piece attached to the side of the engine that holds all of the wires .. like this ![]() It's a 6cyl auto with three coil packs (that is why I was asking if maybe this could have caused the coil pack the cut wire was on to short itself out) |
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I would start by replacing the spark plug that the cut cable attaches to. It may have been damaged when the cable was cut.
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It did get a lot better when I put the new wire on, just not as good as it was before the wire got cut The plug getting soaked in fuel / fouled out when the plug wasn't firing sounds very plausible so I'll definitely change it out tomorrow!! |
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If it would have gotten caught it could have maybe even broken the insulator on the plug itself... but I don't see any evidence of the wire being caught - just cut ...
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Basics, what year and model. the comp on your car was trying to compensate for the misfire. Try to take off the negative cable and reset the computer. Or just drive with the repair and see if it will adjust.
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It's a 90-?92? chevy 3.1 "T" engine (The engine isn't original to the car but came out of a 1990 lumina) The battery is a whore to get to so hopefully it'll just adjust back!! |
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Also, the coil packs are notorious for failing (I just replaced one two weeks ago) because they are too close to the engine and they burn up... and it's over 100 here for the past three days, outside..
I was sure I needed to replace a coil pack when it did this, but then I saw a freshly cut wire.. As you can see it looks pretty cleanly cut ![]() ![]() I just went out and tried to dry the plug off ... I held the throttle wide open and cranked it (that shuts the injectors off) seeing if I could get that plug to dry off .. didn't work I'll change the plug tomorrow and in the mean time maybe it's just the computer and it can relearn |
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What for? I am no expert, but at least I know most things.. like where the coil packs are, and that kind of shit... I even tried wot to dry the plug..
Or you're cracking wise about an engine miss? What? I'm not a purse carrier - I get my hands in and get them dirty and get shit fixed |
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It needs a tune up
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A plug will still run fouled, how long did you run it with the wire cut? You do not need to get to the battery, find a ground and disconnect the bitch. That is an early year.....may not be the box, you may need to make manual adjustments to air fuel. Fuck at that year it could be the moons alignment with saturn and you will never know.
Kudos for the self repair thou! It is mechanical and can be fixed. |
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![]() I know about the moons alignment thing on these cars .. sometimes christ knows what goes wrong and hell who knows I forgot to pull the codes, think I will go out and do that now |
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It's times like this I wish I was a spoiled hopeless little bitch who had someone to pay for everything.. lol!!!
Maybe I should just go and live with some wealthy woman... NAH!! |
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Any check engine light or codes? I'm guessing it's not an OBD2 car though...
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Have your woman go back to school for a degree in auto maintenance.
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It flashes good old 012 ... which some people say is meaningless or that it just means diag mode ..... and someone told me it did mean something once .. but it's always flashed 012 for years now so I don't think it's important
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Since it has a coil pack I think it's pretty safe to say there's no points or distributor. ![]() |
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If you're in the LA area, I got a good mechanic for you, hook your cars computer up and it will tell you what's the problem
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I hate cars so much.
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most parts stores do that for free. Autozone, Oreilly, etc.
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Pull the spark plug wire off of the bad plug, stick your finger in the end and have someone crank the engine over so you can see if its firing.
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Did you only replace 1 plug-lead out of the set?
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Yeah, the one that was cut
Before it did started doing this it was running perfectly - perfectly! And then it does that, I get back and find the cut wire.... I did my "floor the pedal and crank the engine" routine trying to dry the plug off without removing it a couple more times and it got better - so I am pretty sure I definitely need to change the plug out |
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Should replace the leads as a full set. You'll probably find the resistance of the remaining old ones is quite a bit higher than the new one.
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Well, that settles it. When my car is screwed, I'm taking it to GFY for a tune-up!
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I just now changed the plug and it's a lot better ... still does it but very occasionally now .. Not every time I take off or accelerate, now
The plug that was in there looked like it had been fuel soaked .. the electrode was still a little wet looking at the top of it (but the plug doesn't have any fuel or oil smell to it) and there is a white coating over a lot of it ![]() Plus - some idiot put AUTO LITES in there - soon as I have extra cash I'm going to put delcos in and fresh wires on all six |
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It was a coil pack, again.. I don't know why it gave up right when the wire got cut, it must have shorted out or some kind of a thing (I believe that the end of the wire must have gotten into the wrong place and zapped something)...
He changed the coil pack and it runs great and the total charge was $10 parts+labor He also did the brakes on her car, front pads $25 labor $20 carbon metallic pads Definitely going to have to buy three new coil packs or not drive when it's so hot out, any more. Drove it all over when it was over 100F outside before this happened. Like I said, the coil packs are right on the front of the engine and they're notorious for not making it (same with the ign module which is under them) |
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