Adapt or Die - Traffic is easy to get.

[TheSquealer]

you know how hard it is to get real converting traffic? how much time goes into it? money? genius? just fuck off paul. no one wants you here you senile retard.

Of course he knows! Haven't you been listening. Traffic is "easy to get" and "Content is king". That's why he is super wealthy. He has the hard part... the content. Traffic is a breeze. Conversions? Thats where the magic join links come into play!

Didn't you see the threads where he was offering to donate his wealth to the needy?

No?

That's because he was actually here begging for money because he was broke. He then continued to explain how even his wife had to take a job to make ends meet. And bear in mind, this is right in the middle of him launching pay sites and shooting content and just being generally awesome all day long and telling everyone else how they need to shoot content and run their business

[WarChild]

Guys just stop arguing with him. Let him have threads chalk full of his own posts and nobody elses.

[TheDoc]

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[Paul Markham]

dig420 raised a good point about what turns men on.

Prior to free online porn the buyer had no options. He bought what turned him on. Today, some have an option besides buying.

If your tastes are wide and you don't care who the girls are and don't care if they have 2 working brain cells. Then the temptation to buy is solely down to HD or SD. And clearly with the traffic on the major Tubes, most don't care about HD.

These easily pleased guys are gone.

So what, besides HD, will convince someone to buy and then stay in a porn site today? This is fairly general, so be nice.

Reality. This is number 1. Whether it's Ex GF or Penthouse the porn consumer wants it real. He doesn't want some fake actor banging out the same scene she's banged out 50 times before or like she's seen it. This is why so many turn to amateur, if done right it's real or more real. So faked orgasm are something to beware of, girls trotting out the same lines are also not good. It needs the passion of a Hollywood love scene.

Not hard to make it real. Just make it real. girls who want to fake it badly can go home. The carrot for doing it right is to get another days work, then another and another.

Personality. Without it whats to distinguish one girl from the next? So many girls are presented as pieces of meat. If the surfer wants that he can get it in tons of a Tube site, no need to spend a dime. This is essential for Gonzo and why the real Gonzo stars are stars in their own right. Not just a dick and a voice.

Variety. So many sites are full of the same scene over and over again. All they change is the sofa and girl. Get some imagination into the porn scene.

Value. Goes without saying.

Quality. Nothing to do with HD, lighting or focusing or anything Cherry7 prizes so highly. It's the quality of the porn that makes a dick hard. Getting models to do a good job, give something of themselves and framing (so many shooters shoot girls standing and kneeling with a widescreen camera it's amazing). Jel thinks anyone can shoot porn. He's wrong. Anyone can point a camera at a naked girl, getting porn out of her takes a lot more skills. Looking at his site http://www.mixedracelesbos.com/ I would say he proves how easy it is to produce bad porn and a bad porn site.

He competes in a market that's saturated. There are 10,000s of sites with crap porn on. This thread is about good porn and getting more money from the same traffic.

Alex, Pleasure King told us a long time ago that Alexa stats are a joke and no one serious cares about them. So one of you is wrong.

Guys just stop arguing with him. Let him have threads chalk full of his own posts and nobody elses.

So you don't want your stats to go from 1-500 to 1-400. OK then, you're not interested.

[Konda]

He can't he's got no idea what he's talking about.

Here's a little clue.

A decent video/DVD would be duplicated 10,000 times. The sales price would be $30-$40, that generates an income on sales of $300,000 to $400,000 for a single title in a single month. Then add rental. Anyone who knew offline porn will know the money taken on Rental. Some thought is was doubling sales. Than add all the people who bought a cable porn TV Channel. It's estimated there were 10,000 videos titles released every year.

I am not talking about offline. I said online. Offline I can understand it's a lot lower.

Let me rephrase:
Right now no less money is being spend on ONLINE porn (which including cams and dating) than what was being spend 10 years ago on online porn. I would go as far as saying that MORE money is being spend.

People that work in online porn who make less money than they did 10 years ago failed to adapt or innovate.

[TheDoc]

Alex, Pleasure King told us a long time ago that Alexa stats are a joke and no one serious cares about them. So one of you is wrong

Alexa is a ranking tool, not a statistics tool, stat wise it is a joke, rank wise it's not.

Compare sites in the same niche, if say neither host galleries on the paysite domain, and use aff traffic mostly, then 'ranking wise' it's damn near perfect.


However, we can simply look your sites up in compete and see you don't get much traffic, enough to maybe make 10 sales a day, on your biggest days.

[TheDoc]

I am not talking about offline. I said online. Offline I can understand it's a lot lower.

Let me rephrase:
Right now no less money is being spend on ONLINE porn (which including cams and dating) than what was being spend 10 years ago on online porn. I would go as far as saying that MORE money is being spend.

People that work in online porn who make less money than they did 10 years ago failed to adapt or innovate.

Paul thinks porn was larger before the Internet and even smaller after 15 years of the Internet porn.

Your argument is pointless, trust me, I've already tried it.

[CaptainHowdy]

[dig420]

My point Paul, is that you don't actually know what you're talking about here. You need to be asking questions and listening instead of lecturing.

The SMART way to go about it is to open up your icq and find someone who's had some serious success and is still in the game, who is patient enough to answer your questions and help you monetize your content in ways that actually make sense. Conversely, you can use the Alien biz model of thinking that you already know what you need to know, keep spinning your wheels and wonder why you're working so hard and not making any money.

[TheSquealer]

My point Paul, is that you don't actually know what you're talking about here. You need to be asking questions and listening instead of lecturing.

Really, as a long time program owner in adult online who has been running affiliate programs since 98 or so, you don't want to be lectured by a broke, demented idiot about how YOU should run your business and why YOU are doing wrong??

Personally, I would just be happy he took time off from his daily routine of resending his astronaut application to NASA and arguing with squirrels in the park to help you out.

[will76]

Who said "No traffic"?

The problem today isn't no traffic. It's not enough traffic to age a single sign up. When 99 get off for free, well not free it's paid for by the 1 who buys, something is wrong. When 999 get off for free it's a big problem. When 4,999 get off for free it's a disaster.

We have worked the traffic end for years and clearly this is where we got. From 99 getting off for free to around 4,999 now getting off for free. Does that mean traffic is the problem or in it lies the solution?

If traffic is so easy to get Paul, then why do you have none?

[Argos88]

well.. the business is pretty done...

people dont buy anymore since everything is free at filesonic.

[porno jew]

i would be surprised if your sites had 500 uniques a day all together.

[BAKO]

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[shade001]

Paul, you forget some of us were around when you started your paysite and had to lead you by the hand getting your tour straightened out. It was pretty hard to do so as you would never admit you did anything wrong, you just argued in circles until you finally made changes without admitting you didn't know what you were doing in the first place.

I also know many of your affiliates back then so yeah, you had SOME traffic b/c of THEM. You never figured that out either. Generally, their conversions were shit while your stats showed of course magical stats right out of a unicorn's ass.

So know that you are only blowing smoke up your own ass. No one else is buying it.

My sites have always had traffic. It's the stupidest of stupid assumptions to assume they never had any. They would of closed 10 years ago with NO traffic. But stupid is Squealers middle name.

Did I have enough traffic to make sign ups? Well enough even today to keep the sites open.

Were the sites our only focus of business. No way, just a third string.

Crazy that a person who visited our studio and offices, met the studio staff, the office staff, saw the 2,000 sq ft studio. Thought he was not offering me enough to kiss his ass. Thinks we did all that, ran 4 sites with no traffic.

Squealer, you're too funny.