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Vendzilla 11-02-2010 10:33 PM
I wonder if Obama can hear everyone now?
 
56 seats in the house, 6 in the senate
No more Pelosi as house speaker
Harry Reid almost lost to a crazy person
Votes are still close in California

Barry didn't get the hint when Brown won, I wonder if he heard this?

stocktrader23 11-02-2010 10:37 PM
Heard what, the election cycle repeating itself as usual?

The cheers from millions of self hating morons?

What is he supposed to hear exactly?

Brujah 11-02-2010 10:37 PM
He's under the desk crying in a fetal position. You've really scared the shit out of him this time!

potter 11-02-2010 10:42 PM
Hear what? The democrats holding the senate, and the republicans holding the house?

Vendzilla 11-02-2010 10:42 PM
biggest gop win in over 50 years or biggest democrat loss in same

Brujah 11-02-2010 10:45 PM
The biggest party turnover in more than 70 years, isn't it?

potter 11-02-2010 10:48 PM
meh, same shit happened a decade ago - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Revolution

Vendzilla 11-02-2010 10:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17666048)
The biggest party turnover in more than 70 years, isn't it?
Im just glad we have more of a balance now
got a bunch of new governors too

I was listening at ABC news and one of the commentators said it was because of the Tea Party, without them, the GOP was dead in the water. They even gave a lot of credit to Sarah Palin.

Brujah 11-02-2010 10:50 PM
Could've done even better in the Senate if not for Christine O'Donnell.

kane 11-02-2010 10:53 PM
I think Obama got just what he wanted. We will now likely have 2 years of nothing but fighting and gridlock. The democrat run senate will not be in any mood to help the republicans out after they just put up with two years of them saying no to and filibustering anything and everything the democrats wanted to do. And vice versa. If the republicans weren't willing to work with the democrats when they were the minority they sure as hell won't when they are the majority.

They will fight with each other and if we are lucky a few small things will pass. Obama can then move to the middle and tell tell those on the left that the republicans winning the house forced him to do it just to get basic business done. He then sits and waits. If the economy picks up and rights itself over the next two years he will claim a victory and say that his stimulus and jobs bill worked after all and it will make him hard to beat in a re-election. Of course if the economy still sucks he will be very vulnerable, but right now there is not a real strong republican candidate on the horizon.

Let's not forget that a good number of these republicans are tea party people who have vowed to vote against things that increase the deficit so the republicans may find it difficult to get votes even in their own party.

Obama got what he wanted, potential chaos in the house and senate which will help take the eyes off of him for a little while.

ThunderBalls 11-02-2010 10:53 PM
Hahaha....FOX News and you teabaggers are touting this as a huge republican victory, compared to what was being predicted and the fact this is normal in every midterm election this is a democratic victory. More delusion from the whacks.

Vendzilla 11-02-2010 11:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17666061)
Hahaha....FOX News and you teabaggers are touting this as a huge republican victory, compared to what was being predicted and the fact this is normal in every midterm election this is a democratic victory. More delusion from the whacks.
Biggest turnaround in how long? you're a fucking idiot

ThunderBalls 11-02-2010 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17666070)
Biggest turnaround in how long? you're a fucking idiot
Says the guy who thinks it was the biggest republican romp in 50 years :1orglaugh

Vendzilla 11-02-2010 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kane (Post 17666060)
I think Obama got just what he wanted. We will now likely have 2 years of nothing but fighting and gridlock. The democrat run senate will not be in any mood to help the republicans out after they just put up with two years of them saying no to and filibustering anything and everything the democrats wanted to do. And vice versa. If the republicans weren't willing to work with the democrats when they were the minority they sure as hell won't when they are the majority.

They will fight with each other and if we are lucky a few small things will pass. Obama can then move to the middle and tell tell those on the left that the republicans winning the house forced him to do it just to get basic business done. He then sits and waits. If the economy picks up and rights itself over the next two years he will claim a victory and say that his stimulus and jobs bill worked after all and it will make him hard to beat in a re-election. Of course if the economy still sucks he will be very vulnerable, but right now there is not a real strong republican candidate on the horizon.

Let's not forget that a good number of these republicans are tea party people who have vowed to vote against things that increase the deficit so the republicans may find it difficult to get votes even in their own party.

Obama got what he wanted, potential chaos in the house and senate which will help take the eyes off of him for a little while.
With GOP taking the house, the democrats lost a bunch of positions of power in the committees. They have more power than you think, this is going to be interesting, can't wait for Barry to speak tomorrow

Bye Bye Pelosi

potter 11-02-2010 11:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17666070)
Biggest turnaround in how long? you're a fucking idiot
This is almost an EXACT mimic of the 1994 mid-terms.

House Elections Since 1990

1990 D +7
1992 R +9
1994 R +54
1996 D +9
1998 D +5
2000 D +1
2002 R +8
2004 R +3
2006 D +31
2008 D +21
2010 R +56~

And there are more 30+/40+ from the 80s/70s.

baddog 11-02-2010 11:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17666061)
the fact this is normal in every midterm election this is a democratic victory.
:1orglaugh


It is good to be rid of Pelosi though. Any guesses as to will get it?

sologirlcontent 11-02-2010 11:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kane (Post 17666060)
I think Obama got just what he wanted. We will now likely have 2 years of nothing but fighting and gridlock. The democrat run senate will not be in any mood to help the republicans out after they just put up with two years of them saying no to and filibustering anything and everything the democrats wanted to do. And vice versa. If the republicans weren't willing to work with the democrats when they were the minority they sure as hell won't when they are the majority.

They will fight with each other and if we are lucky a few small things will pass. Obama can then move to the middle and tell tell those on the left that the republicans winning the house forced him to do it just to get basic business done. He then sits and waits. If the economy picks up and rights itself over the next two years he will claim a victory and say that his stimulus and jobs bill worked after all and it will make him hard to beat in a re-election. Of course if the economy still sucks he will be very vulnerable, but right now there is not a real strong republican candidate on the horizon.

Let's not forget that a good number of these republicans are tea party people who have vowed to vote against things that increase the deficit so the republicans may find it difficult to get votes even in their own party.

Obama got what he wanted, potential chaos in the house and senate which will help take the eyes off of him for a little while.
I agree with this and then Obama wins 2012..it's the perfect scenerio

baddog 11-02-2010 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by potter (Post 17666079)
This is almost an EXACT mimic of the 1994 mid-terms.

House Elections Since 1990

1990 D +7
1992 R +9
1994 R +54
1996 D +9
1998 D +5
2000 D +1
2002 R +8
2004 R +3
2006 D +31
2008 D +21
2010 R +56~

And there are more 30+/40+ from the 80s/70s.
Did you see the last time there were more than 56? And you would have to add the Senate to be accurate, right?

ThunderBalls 11-02-2010 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17666082)
:1orglaugh


It is good to be rid of Pelosi though. Any guesses as to will get it?
Probably John Boehner.

baddog 11-02-2010 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sologirlcontent (Post 17666084)
I agree with this and then Obama wins 2012..it's the perfect scenerio
Obama is a one-term president.

kane 11-02-2010 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17666082)
:1orglaugh


It is good to be rid of Pelosi though. Any guesses as to will get it?
Pelosi was scary. John Boehner was the minority leader so he would be most likely person to get the speaker role, but I read a couple of weeks ago that there are a couple of other guys (can't recall their names right now) that might challenge him for it.

Vendzilla 11-02-2010 11:13 PM
Obama has already called John Boehner

kane 11-02-2010 11:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17666076)
With GOP taking the house, the democrats lost a bunch of positions of power in the committees. They have more power than you think, this is going to be interesting, can't wait for Barry to speak tomorrow

Bye Bye Pelosi
I had actually read a few weeks ago that there was suspicions that Obama hoped that they lost both the house and senate so he could basically do what Clinton did and strike a balance between them. A lot of it rests on what type of stuff the republicans try to pass now. They have the leadership roll they wanted, they better do something with it.

potter 11-02-2010 11:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17666085)
Did you see the last time there were more than 56? And you would have to add the Senate to be accurate, right?
A midterm every single decade has had a swap in or near the 50's. 1994 had one at 54.

I didn't add in the senate because we're discussing the house, i can do the senate too though - easy to grab the numbers real quick. It's going to look exactly the same though. Democrats do good sometimes, republicans do good sometimes.

cykoe6 11-02-2010 11:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17666061)
Hahaha....FOX News and you teabaggers are touting this as a huge republican victory, compared to what was being predicted and the fact this is normal in every midterm election this is a democratic victory. More delusion from the whacks.
This is the biggest change in House seats since 1948. It is gonna be pretty hard to spin that as a Republican loss....... but I am sure you useful idiots will keep trying. :1orglaugh

Brujah 11-02-2010 11:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17666088)
Obama is a one-term president.
Remember that other thread you said he was not electable in? :winkwink: You might be jinxing it with this statement.

potter 11-02-2010 11:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 17666097)
This is the biggest change in House seats since 1948. It is gonna be pretty hard to spin that as a Republican loss....... but I am sure you useful idiots will keep trying. :1orglaugh
Keep spinning it to make it seem like nothing similar to this has happened since 1948, when the reality is this is a mirror of the 1994 elections.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Revolution

digitaldivas 11-02-2010 11:26 PM
...I'm going to help myself to a delicious piece of red velvet cake.

stocktrader23 11-02-2010 11:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 17666097)
This is the biggest change in House seats since 1948. It is gonna be pretty hard to spin that as a Republican loss....... but I am sure you useful idiots will keep trying. :1orglaugh
Guy, I know you are going to be hardheaded but here you go.

1990 D +7
1992 R +9
1994 R +54
1996 D +9
1998 D +5
2000 D +1
2002 R +8
2004 R +3
2006 D +31
2008 D +21
2010 R +56~

+31 D in 2006, +21 D in 2008.

So far you are +4 R since 2004.

Also, Obama got a lot of people off their ass that voted straight D. Unless there is some major fuckup before 2012 that will most likely happen again.

Oh, and while we're on politics. The entire country has been trending D for a long time now. Enjoy these victories while you can, the youngsters are getting older every day and they are much MUCH more liberal than their parents and grandparents. Then of course there's the old racist Republicans that are dying daily.

cykoe6 11-02-2010 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by potter (Post 17666103)
Keep spinning it to make it seem like nothing similar to this has happened since 1948, when the reality is this is a mirror of the 1994 elections.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Revolution
I agree that this is a mirror of 1994........ that was also a large Republican victory. It was considered such a a large victory at the time that it was termed a "revolution". There is still no way to spin this into a loss for the Republicans. The fact is that it is the largest change in House seats since 1948. It may have happened before...... but it is most certainly is a big victory.

baddog 11-03-2010 12:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17666100)
Remember that other thread you said he was not electable in? :winkwink: You might be jinxing it with this statement.
I just heard some historian that said there has been three mid-term elections that had massive swaps (Truman, Eisenhower and Clinton) and they all were re-elected. He suggested this might work in his favor as he won't have to do shit for the next two years.

Quote:
Originally Posted by potter (Post 17666103)
Keep spinning it to make it seem like nothing similar to this has happened since 1948, when the reality is this is a mirror of the 1994 elections.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Revolution
56 is larger than 54 the last time I looked, so it is the largest whether it is close or not.

kane 11-03-2010 12:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17666162)
I just heard some historian that said there has been three mid-term elections that had massive swaps (Truman, Eisenhower and Clinton) and they all were re-elected. He suggested this might work in his favor as he won't have to do shit for the next two years.
Yep. If things work out for the better and improve he can take credit and if they don't he can lay the blame on the republicans. He is actually in a pretty good situation right now, but I guess we will have to wait and see what he does with it.

Nathan 11-03-2010 12:27 AM
It would have been horribly sad if the Republicans would not have achieved what they just did, considering the circumstances... it's expected, who cares if its a win or not...

The most important thing now are the next 2 years, the only way Republicans can win 2012 is by showing in the next 2 years that they can do it better, which I do not think they can, so its just a preparation to fail....

The next 2 years for sure will be interesting...

And btw, vendzilla amd cykoe6, calling people "idiots" just shows lack of arguments... its not really intelligent to say in such a debate...

DWB 11-03-2010 12:30 AM
So we replace one set of ass hats with another set of ass hats.

Everyone thinks they just made a difference.

Business as usual.

Slutboat 11-03-2010 12:36 AM
Vendzilla get a fucking grip - we all knew that the house would go to you dumb fuck racist Republicunts..... This is standard in a down economy - but the Dems keeping the Senate is a HUGE MANDATE that this nation DOES NOT want you pigs running the pig sty...

bhutocracy 11-03-2010 01:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kane (Post 17666060)
They will fight with each other and if we are lucky a few small things will pass. Obama can then move to the middle and tell tell those on the left that the republicans winning the house forced him to do it just to get basic business done. He then sits and waits. If the economy picks up and rights itself over the next two years he will claim a victory and say that his stimulus and jobs bill worked after all and it will make him hard to beat in a re-election. Of course if the economy still sucks he will be very vulnerable, but right now there is not a real strong republican candidate on the horizon.
"Move to the middle". Heh. The public option is a right wing position in any country other than America and he wouldn't go near it, he's a corporatist and a centrist, just the middle keeps changing. Large chunks of Obamacare are old Republican proposals and his stimulous spending wasn't particularly that different to what Bush would have done, although Bush would have upped the ratio of taxcuts somewhat.
If the Repubs could they wouldn't repeal all of Obamacare. Large amounts were written by lobbyists, they'll keep the industry sweeteners in, probably even the thing people are most pissed about, the mandate. Same thing with financial reform. So stupid to cop political flak for being a "socialist" and not actually implement legislation "socialist" enough for the left wing of your base. If people think Obamacare is going to kill grandma with death panels and you're not going to get any republican support, at least get progressive votes out of it. Never saw the point of pissing off everyone but hey, I'm not Rahm.
Anyways the Dems deserved the raping they got today. Useless on pretty much all fronts.

garce 11-03-2010 01:45 AM
No matter who anybody votes for, nothing is going to change. You realize that, right? The only thing that changes is who the media aims their vitriol at.

You might as well elect some random guy named Bob from North Dakota as "God Over All He Surveys."

No matter whether its a Democrat or a Republican - or my random buddy Bob - the only thing that is going to change is the name of the person that Fox News, Comedy Central, or CNN picks on. It does not matter who is elected. Baddog's Buddy is probably more qualified to run for office. And he would probably do a better job. Things will not get any better no matter who is in control. Sorry - that's pretty much an historical fact.

There has not been a single politician that has made anyone's life any better in the 47 years I've been alive.

As a Canadian, maybe Clinton made my life better. Clinton did more for Canada than any Canadian leader ever did in the last 40 years. That's a horrible thing to say, but I stand by that statement. Bill Clinton was Canada's greatest leader in the last 40 years. If he was eligible, he'd be elected Prime Minister today.

I liked what he did for the exchange rate. America dominated the world's economy back then, and I got $1.54 for every dollar I earned. Not so much now. The American dollar is going to end up being pocket change soon enough. Under Bush the US dollar was worth 90 cents. Now? About par.

This is the non-partisan opinion of someone who does not live in your country, but cares about it a great deal. More than you will believe. Canadian television is dominated by U.S. media, and it breaks my heart to see you guys fight against each other all the time. Often for no reason. You support Glen Beck, or John Stewart. The opinions of these two men should be worth no more than the opinion of your cat. Fight, fight, fight. That's all I ever hear on the news. You hate each other.

Quote:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Liberty and Justice for ALL. A statement that brings me to tears when I read it. Liberty and Justice for all. A simple statement that defines humanity. All encompassing, applying to everyone.

I re-read the Pledge Of Allegiance tonight, and my eyes are full of tears. A pure document, beyond reproach.

The one single goal that every nation and independant person on this planet should fight for is documented in the history of the United States of America.

I do not know how to express my opinion without rambling aimlessly. I'm doing that right now. Forgive me.

America is the single greatest country in human history. I am honoured to call Amercans my friends and neighbours. And family. It breaks my heart to watch you fight with each other.

It does. It cripples me. I'm a confused mess, my friends. God Bless America. Long Live The Queen. Fuck the media.

I love you all.

IllTestYourGirls 11-03-2010 04:06 AM
His press conference will be interesting.

CDSmith 11-03-2010 04:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by garce (Post 17666249)
No matter who anybody votes for, nothing is going to change. You realize that, right? The only thing that changes is who the media aims their vitriol at.

You might as well elect some random guy named Bob from North Dakota as "God Over All He Surveys."

No matter whether its a Democrat or a Republican - or my random buddy Bob - the only thing that is going to change is the name of the person that Fox News, Comedy Central, or CNN picks on. It does not matter who is elected. Baddog's Buddy is probably more qualified to run for office. And he would probably do a better job. Things will not get any better no matter who is in control. Sorry - that's pretty much an historical fact.

There has not been a single politician that has made anyone's life any better in the 47 years I've been alive.

As a Canadian, maybe Clinton made my life better. Clinton did more for Canada than any Canadian leader ever did in the last 40 years. That's a horrible thing to say, but I stand by that statement. Bill Clinton was Canada's greatest leader in the last 40 years. If he was eligible, he'd be elected Prime Minister today.

I liked what he did for the exchange rate. America dominated the world's economy back then, and I got $1.54 for every dollar I earned. Not so much now. The American dollar is going to end up being pocket change soon enough. Under Bush the US dollar was worth 90 cents. Now? About par.

This is the non-partisan opinion of someone who does not live in your country, but cares about it a great deal. More than you will believe. Canadian television is dominated by U.S. media, and it breaks my heart to see you guys fight against each other all the time. Often for no reason. You support Glen Beck, or John Stewart. The opinions of these two men should be worth no more than the opinion of your cat. Fight, fight, fight. That's all I ever hear on the news. You hate each other.



Liberty and Justice for ALL. A statement that brings me to tears when I read it. Liberty and Justice for all. A simple statement that defines humanity. All encompassing, applying to everyone.

I re-read the Pledge Of Allegiance tonight, and my eyes are full of tears. A pure document, beyond reproach.

The one single goal that every nation and independant person on this planet should fight for is documented in the history of the United States of America.

I do not know how to express my opinion without rambling aimlessly. I'm doing that right now. Forgive me.

America is the single greatest country in human history. I am honoured to call Amercans my friends and neighbours. And family. It breaks my heart to watch you fight with each other.

It does. It cripples me. I'm a confused mess, my friends. God Bless America. Long Live The Queen. Fuck the media.

I love you all.
Gad damn garce, you sure know how to piss out the fire of a good political debate.

Just wow.

Btw, well said. I don't think I could or would change a word of it. Post of the month right there.

BlackCrayon 11-03-2010 04:27 AM
dems didn't fix things fast enough, elect the other guy. ok, well the same thing is going to happen in 2012 for the dems since the republican congress won't be able to fix anything either. americans don't know what they want or who will get them out of the mess they are in.

GatorB 11-03-2010 04:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17666024)
56 seats in the house, 6 in the senate
No more Pelosi as house speaker
Harry Reid almost lost to a crazy person
Votes are still close in California

Barry didn't get the hint when Brown won, I wonder if he heard this?
you're a fucking moron.

GatorB 11-03-2010 04:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17666519)
dems didn't fix things fast enough, elect the other guy. ok, well the same thing is going to happen in 2012 for the dems since the republican congress won't be able to fix anything either. americans don't know what they want or who will get them out of the mess they are in.
QFT:2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 11-03-2010 04:48 AM
Let the acrimony begin (continue?) ...

candyflip 11-03-2010 05:08 AM
All I care is that it's over and we don't have to listen to Venzilla's shit day in and day out.

But I'd be willing to bet he can't keep his trap shut on the subject.

Sly 11-03-2010 05:25 AM
Oh man. So the big D gains in 2006 and 2008 were a huge hoopla and accomplishment, complete rejection of the evil Dictator Dubya's policies... but in 2010, meh, business as usual!

Sly 11-03-2010 05:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17666519)
dems didn't fix things fast enough, elect the other guy. ok, well the same thing is going to happen in 2012 for the dems since the republican congress won't be able to fix anything either. americans don't know what they want or who will get them out of the mess they are in.
You're right, it will. In 2012 I'm guessing it will balance out pretty close. Everyone will hate everyone again. Wee!

CaptainHowdy 11-03-2010 05:32 AM
Parliamentary democracy is an spectacle, get over it...

TheDoc 11-03-2010 06:00 AM
You guys are odd... most of the seats were a dead shoe in for the Republicans, they could have won if they slept through the race. They only had to win a few extra places to take a jump like this.

And the fact that the crazy bitch from NV almost made it and Rand Paul did make it, proves how flippin crazy and stupid some Americans truly are.

Dirty Dane 11-03-2010 06:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by garce (Post 17666249)
As a Canadian, maybe Clinton made my life better. Clinton did more for Canada than any Canadian leader ever did in the last 40 years. That's a horrible thing to say, but I stand by that statement. Bill Clinton was Canada's greatest leader in the last 40 years. If he was eligible, he'd be elected Prime Minister today.

I liked what he did for the exchange rate. America dominated the world's economy back then, and I got $1.54 for every dollar I earned. Not so much now. The American dollar is going to end up being pocket change soon enough. Under Bush the US dollar was worth 90 cents. Now? About par.
It was Clinton who started the unhealthy investment policy, wasn't it?

MK Ultra 11-03-2010 06:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17666729)
It was Clinton who started the unhealthy investment policy, wasn't it?
SHHHHH! You'll upset the Liberals :smiling_b


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