State of the Webcam Industry
 

With the popularity of sites like MFC spreading like wildfire I find it impossible for traditional pay per minute webcam sites to compete. I never was a huge webcam affiliate but it seems to me the MFC model must be drawing huge amounts of good traffic, the best models, money, etc away from traditional webcam sites.

Thoughts?

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I haven't seen a change on our own WL other then the revenue going slightly up.

Personally I am not too worried about MFC right now.

Our revenues, traffic and number of active affiliates keep increasing each quarter. :thumbsup

As a camsite owner, I'm not worried either :)

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Our Japanese niche cams will not be affected by the free cams.

There are still many people that want "one on one" private sessions.

Ugh, Free Cams offers sessions its how they make most of their money.
They have tons of traffic and the free chat and stuff isnt fake like on the ppm ones. I'd be worried. They even have the girls video chatting now, and amazing in only 5 minutes of research i found a girl talking about how the income works and how she gets paid.. I'd be very very worried if my cam network income was affiliate / ppm based

We are selling more webcam traffic than ever actually!

no worries...just relax...

MFC has been around for a few years now and we just launched our Cams Site and we are doing great. Great as in sales are coming in and people are making money.

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Last month was a a record breaking month. We all work very hard to make it happen :thumbsup

Sales good over here..!

The "Free" in MFC is good marketing.

When you look at it closer the site is not all that different from a traditional pay per minute site. A nice set-up makes it inviting to non initiated webcam surfers, a couple of extra features... that is about it.

They won't get all the "best models" either. Models get a better share but many don't like dealing with all the free loaders, or have records of their private shows everywhere on the Net.

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Ummm, no. MFC isn't going to draw the best models away from regular camsites.

And all of the pay-to-play camsites that have been offering free video chat for ten years and paying webmasters soooo much and camgirls too little are the ones who've "ruined" it. And yet it's not dead!!

MFC is a cool site in a lot of ways, for both camgirls and viewers, but it's not going to ruin anything.

Just watched these 3 hotties go at it @ MFC... for free I might add, this was only part of the show, saving the good stuff for myself :1orglaugh

http://www.e18.net/mfc2.gif

They look damn fine to me, as good as any other Cam site I've visited, I'd be worried :2 cents:

MFC isn't a paysite killer. Your big spenders are still going to want one on one interaction with a live model, not interaction with a model that has hundreds of other lurkers in her room... So let em keep doing what they're doing. They're only drawing away from paysites people that weren't going to spend money anyways... I promote camsites, and I do well...


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You have obviously never been on MFC.

During the little clip above they went private. At the time there was 3k people watching. They seemed to enjoy the chat interaction with the other lurkers for the most part. I got a few laughs out of reading what was being said and asked of these 3 hotties to do, let me tell you, lots of pervs out there :1orglaugh

When they went private half the viewers left, on to the next cam lol I stuck around for a bit and finally followed suit :thumbsup

They raked it in on cam and raffled a date with the 3 of them, flight paid, if you bought a raffle ticket via tipping :pimp no I didn't buy a raffle ticket sadly :Oh crap

http://www.e18.net/mfc3.gif

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n00b question ... WTF is MFC ?

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When my free cams started out they were giving models a webcam to start out with.

Don't be sad...not saying these girls weren't genuine, but online raffles for sex type stuff usually proximate hustles.

Here's some observations from CZ.

Webcam studios are down sizing or closing.
Girls are getting put off by the money they can earn.

As for sponsors telling me all is rosy and getting rosier. What else would they say?

No one was very worried about Tubes 3 years ago. Now it's different. Will MFC break the mold?

Too early to tell.

Like all things web cams need to adapt. Do they have what it takes?

Seeing how the girl really performs before going one on one is a good idea.

Is she just some bored girl putting on a fake show to get you to spend more or some hottie who will meet your needs.

Think they have some way to go before becoming a real threat... the technical quality just isn't there. And, personally, if I'm going to pay for private chat, I want a consistently good video stream. Additionally, I think the site's design and layout is poor. I get really annoyed with the lack of order in that area. The design chaos on that site makes me want to get off of it. But, the site's flaws prove there's a pretty big market for live video chat... even when it's not presented in the best way possible. On another issue, I've always wondered how MFC got so big without an affiliate program.

All of you saying NO PROBLEM, BUSINESS IS UP, need to wake up.

History is repeating itself right now and this is the beginning of it. Many more will open models that replicate MFC, and more after that, until the market is flooded.

You can still get a 1 on 1 session with MCF. The difference is, you can get free non 1 on 1 shows. FREE SHOWS! Say that about 20 times and let it sink into your head.

The clock is running. Soon, you will all be competing for those few clients who want a 1 on 1 show in the same manner pay sites are competing for those few clients who will stay pay for porn.

This is the beginning of the end of your world too. Look at what happened to the pay sites. This is going to happen to you, and soon. You've never had to deal with it so you don't want to believe it will happen. Well, neither did we and it did happen.

Free music, free books, free movies, free porn and coming very soon, free cams. You can not compete with free. What are you going to sell them when they stop paying for your cams, porn? Dating? Pills? We've already killed that too.

Live in denial if you want. Those who have any business sense at all will be getting a head start. It has begun.

um yeah Id be worried, just surfed there for the first time after reading this thread, first room I went to was a hot chick in a tub fingering her pussy..... for free....

Yes, this is true. A lot of studios in CZ are out of business.

How much does each token represent? This girls gotten like 500 to 1000 tokens in the last 5 min

edit: well over 1000 maybe 2000 now, some 100 and 200 tips

They get half the tokens, MFC gets half the tokens.

How much are they worth?

Around .10 a token.

how does mfc make money im slightly confused here never heard of it before, but free cam shows? how does it / the models make money...?

Most of the girls on MFC only do hardcore in group or private shows

I have used this system to broadcast or live shows and we made more money in group than any other system we have tried to date.

The adult Internet is the worse business for adapting to new competition unless it's in the field of traffic. Unless they adapt to this in the Webcam market they will suffer like paysites have and affiliates can watch their earning go down.

While all the bro sponsors will tell you things have never been better, they should be adapting to this new model. All the faults pointed out will be fixed by the next guy to pick up on the idea. It will also have an effect on on paysites.

How many will keep paying a months membership to watch something recorded months/years ago when they can watch the same thing live and push the girl to do more by tipping her?

Depends on what you mean by hardcore and "most". There are many girls daily who do full spread and dildo in free chat mode. Sure there are many girls who won't show in free chat, but you'll find they are mostly down in the list because they don't get rated highly.

Yup just saw an awesome show last night, squirting and everything.

cam revenues are up
just saying...

I'm missing something here... I always figured Cams would not run into the "free" dilemna that paysites battle mainly because of the girls. I couldn't see how a camgirl would give away the only thing she had to sell... explicit skin. So, how do the girls who are doing all these "explicit" things in free chat at MFC make money?

Isn't this what all the affiliate programs kept saying about tube sites and look where that got them..

lol at everyone here doing everything more and better than ever. hahahaha. i hear there is a position open in iraq for an information minister.

lia19 was on there few nights ago doing a dildo show in public

OK, so this public dildo show gets her a higher rating. But, does it make her any money? On the Net, attracting the attention of thousands of people to what you're doing is a good thing. But, attracting the attention of thousands who don't spend money is a wash. Does this cam girl eventually need to learn like so many webmasters and sponsor programs have learned... you can't survive and prosper on "free". Nor, can you compete with "free" when you're trying to sell the exact same thing.

If you spent just ten minutes there you'd have your answer, you're missing the obvious. Its a simple concept, instead of girls holding out for that one guy willing to pay a lot for a private session, they perform in the nude free with the notion that they'll get tipped a small amount by many for their efforts and they do. Sure there are tons of freeloaders, but there are also lots of guys willing to tip five, ten or twenty bucks to show their appreciation to a model in the nude, but they otherwise wouldn't spend $50 to take them private. Mfc is the best of both worlds and its their flexibility that puts them above other cam sites. Models can choose to only show in private or group mode or they can show in free mode and attract tips that way.

Lazycash already explained it well. Stick it inside a members area and you're selling it to people who spend money on the NET. :thumbsup

Do people really believe that anymore or do they believe in what their bank accounts are telling them?