Virginia looking to expand it's immigration law
 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...070905518.html

The Justice Department's lawsuit against Arizona's controversial immigration law won't stop Prince William Board of County Supervisors Chairman Corey A. Stewart's campaign to bring a similar law to Virginia.

If anything, said Stewart (R-At Large), he will push harder to get legislation passed at the state level that would enhance police officials' power to capture, detain and deport illegal immigrants and create specific Virginia penalties for illegal immigrants.

"I think the Obama administration has made a strategic blunder," Stewart said. "The Justice Department is going to have egg on its face when its case is dismissed. Arizona is on very firm legal footing, and the administration is just trying to intimidate Arizona."

Last month, Stewart launched the Virginia Rule of Law Campaign to rally support for Virginia immigration legislation. Stewart said Virginia needs to follow in Arizona's footsteps, even if it sends President Obama's administration after the commonwealth.

"I hope the Justice Department sues Virginia, as well," he said. "I hope they have so many targets that they are unable to focus on Arizona. . . . Every state that supports Arizona should implement a similar law to make it impossible for the [federal government] to focus on any one state or jurisdiction."

Prince William has received national attention for its crackdown on illegal immigration. The county's law, enacted in 2007 and modified in 2008, requires that police officers check the immigration status of all people arrested on suspicion of violating a state or local law






OK< they've been doing this for 3 years now, has anyone heard of any racial profiling?

This is an adult webmaster board .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

get an account on Tea Party Forum ... ( no link because of rules ... but google it ... I am sure you will find yourself athome .. )

I'm in Virginia and I hope this passes!

That was your best shot? Coming from you I expected more. Total Fail...

I see you only registered in 2005 ... You missed all those great 2003-2004 threads ..
If you haven't , you would have caught the sarcasm ....

Did you expect I was to debate with a submariner that has a daughter on the Ronald Reagan ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thats about always his best shot.
News like this does actually effect our business
The current administration has had an increase in obscenity investigations / prosecutions over what Bush was doing, this was brought up at a recent seminar according to XBiz. We need to keep up on what Obamanation is doing and how he is not keeping his promises

OK, you want to bash Reagan
Since President Ronald Reagan first helped usher in the international ban on commercial whaling, every American President has reasserted our nation's strong leadership in the fight to save the whales. Guess what the Obamanation is doing, lifting that ban
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pierce..._b_603706.html

Go ahead, debate that!

please provide links / backup to your claims .. or it is an opinion ... ?

Where am I basing Ronald Reagan ..

I just pre-emptively stated what you always state at every occasion :

that you are a submariner ( visited the whole world making you know that the USA are ther best ) and that your daughter is on the Ronald Reagan ...

Is that false ?

Oh so you remember the last time you tried to debate him, what was it the Arizona law?
How did that workout?

Personally I think the goal is to snuff out sites that subscribe to opposing views, it may start with obscenity, as a way of getting to what they really want.

Hard to put a link on a conversation with someone thats in the industry, but you can look it up if you like, you do know how to use google right?
Not false, neither is the disrespect you have for her ship when you put laughing icons after it, I'm proud of what she's doing, like aid to the philipines that got her a humanitarian medal, have you ever done anything that would get you a medal by helping out some one? So keep your remarks to yourself and focus on me, you have a better chance of debating me than being in the same building as my daughter!!
He gets facts from me and changes the subject, like blaming Bush or saying we would have been worse off if McCain was in there. Mute points, we don't know that it would have been worse and Bush isn't the president, just because Obamanation can't take credit for his FUCK UPS?
It's like a shell game, sort of like appointing the new head for medicare/medicad when congress in on recess, he's a fucking coward

I grew up in Prince william county. A few years ago they cut off free public services to the illegals. Basically drove them out of the county because why? they couldn't free load anymore.

Caifornia passed prop 187 and was denied it by one fucking judge that ruled it was unconstitutional, it was the same thing

unconstitutional to deny it to citizens yes.

the PWC bill has also sent home a rather large number of immigrants, but has created a overload on the local jails to sever over population.

Everyone else has similar laws and harsher punishments, why should the US have open borders and take care of everyone?

We can't even take care of our own.

Im all for taken care of our citizens, but we can't do that for Mexico too

Are you kidding me? Where you sleeping when they made 2257 all fucked up? You want to bitch about whatever but as far as porn all the cases we are looking at started during bush. If you think Palin in 2012 and then porn will be left alone your kidding yourself. All the big take downs have been during republican admins Nixon, then Reagan. W would of been a big hit because porn was job one for Ashcroft then 911 happened. The only reason porn exploded on line was because Janet Reno a liberal thought it was waste of resources to go after and would rather go after cp guys. Why do you think all the old timers are democrats because they actually got arrested for what we take for granted. Wanting these hard righters could really bite us in the ass and you dont get a free pass because you supported them. They see us all as one group, porn scum dont kid yourself.

Also there is enough shit you can bang obama about please stop using the bullshit talking points.

When they take the ceo of tyson foods in shackles then they are serious. No jobs ,no one to buys drugs then they dont come here.
Vend so you plan on picking the lettuce? lol

Yes there is more than enough to hang on Obama, but what i said was investigations are up and they are

http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece....prosec utions

As for the Obama administration?s stance on obscenity prosecutions, Obenberger was frank.

?We?ve got more to worry about,? Obenberger said. ?Obama is not getting rid of the [obscenity] task force. The three members of the task force are emboldened because they know he?s afraid of getting rid of them. He thinks that the Bible thumpers who value the task force will vote for him another term.?

?There?s more obscenity prosecutions than there were four years ago,? he said.

If I remember right, little over half of the produce workers in the us are illegal, tell me, do you think we would have a problem getting legal immigrants for those jobs?

so figure half of the 2.5 million produce workers in the US and theres what 30 million illegal aliens, what are the rest doing? About 3% of the illegal aliens are working picking lettuce and what ever, the rest are a drain on the economy

last time I check obama wasnt president 4 yrs ago when they said they are up from. if there is more than enough why do you use the bullshit talking points and not real things?

obscenity prosecutions are up under Obama, what part don't you understand? I didn't pull this out of my ass like your just ignoring article from XBiz and calling it Bull Shit

Reading comprehension not your thing?

nope because they dont want to pay or follow osha. Did you know american companies put out flyers come to america we have work for you? Go to most restaurants in big cities the kitchens are illegal, construction, meat packing, landscaping.

Also there are around 12 million not 30 million.
As far as costing jobs.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/doe...ion-cost-jobs/
also illegals thru getting jobs with fake ids, documents etc. Pay in about 7 billion dollars in their pay checks they never get back.

its xbiz not the bbc lets be real lol. he said I quote There?s more obscenity prosecutions than there were four years ago,? he said.
obama was president for only one of those 4 yrs.
Also tell me who got busted whose new not an ashcroft hold over. I will wait.

was going to say something not worth it. Your right bad dog

Industry professionals giving a seminar say they are going up during Obama, but I'm sure you know better, LMAO

And I never said anything other than obscenity prosecutions are going up, I never said whos to blame, other than it's under Obama, you know the guy you wanted in office because it would be better for the business, well, sorry to burst your bubble, it's not.

SO tell me, is the business of adult better now than it was 18 months ago?

once again tell me who got hit for obscenity who isnt an ashcroft holdover? and if JD was here I would ask the same question.
Bush is to blame, you dont make a mess and then once your not president its not fault. Just like how you guys blamed clinton not bush for 911. At the time 911 happened, clinton wasnt president but no one was saying clinton isnt president now we cant blame him. Its bush presidency its bushs fault.
Well Im going to get a bite and Vend start selling fine cigars not just cigarettes and so I can send you the biz:) My dad was a card carrying member of rnc so I got a soft spot in my heart for righties. :)

7 billion, really? Kinda a small number considering how much they wire to Mexico every year

http://www.immigrationcounters.com/

I never said it wasn't Bush's fault, he started it, it was the Bush administration that started all this, I only said it has got worse under Obama,
Are you thinking it has got better under Obama?

When I smoke a cigar, I have a buddy in Canada that sends Cubans to me, my site sells cigars, but none I like. I would rather smoke what I grew on the back forty last year

Gawd I love when people debate over the bullshit that Obama is doing by blaming Bush, he's had the office for 18 months, whats gotten better?

Here is some information my quick Google search provides me with.

From an article on Politico from July 2009

"Since Obama?s inauguration, prosecutors have pressed on with pending obscenity cases and accepted guilty pleas in one high-profile prosecution brought in Pittsburgh. However, there have been no announcements of new adult obscenity indictments, a trend that Justice Department officials declined to discuss, though they did note that federal prosecutions for child pornography have continued apace. "

This entire article talks about how Obama and his administration are not really making obscenity prosecutions a priority.

Here is another recent article from a conservative group who is pissed because it appears that Obama has gone soft on porn.

Another article here from a few months ago about Congress grilling Holder for his lack of obscenity prosecutions.


Here is an interesting op/ed piece about someone complaining that Obama has done nothing.
From that article we get this quote about Obama and his obscenity task force: "The U.S. Justice Department has an Obscenity Prosecution Task Force led by Brent Ward, who is able and committed. But the FBI has refused to provide agents to investigate adult obscenity cases and none of 92 U.S. Attorneys have filed a case."

One more from Politico where they talk about how Obama has had very little interest in perusing porn, but that instead he is having these task forces use those resources to fight child porn.
From that article: "In the wake of President Barack Obama's election in 2008, some in the adult-film business expected prosecutions like that of Stagliano would be abandoned and that the unit which brought the case, the Obscenity Prosecution Task Force, would be shuttered. That has not happened, despite a tradition that a Democratic administrations have put more emphasis on child pornography and less on adult pornography."

followed by: ""With everything that's going on in the world, they're taking on the adult industry?" asked Sirkin incredulously. "There is no longer the common problems that once existed with adult bookstores on every corner. It's a completely different, kind of self-contained home marketplace."

Are there more convictions that under Bush? That might be because Obama did finish up the cases that were in action. One, for example, was a big case against Extreme Associates that had been going on since 2003, but finally came to a close in 2009.

I looked and looked and find no information that he is increasing prosecutions. I'm not saying that the people on this panel were fear mongering in order to drum up business fro their services, but I just don't see any evidence that what they are saying is accurate.

Question: These industry professionals wouldn't happen to be lawyers would they?

And, can you back up that obscenity prosecutions are up under the Obama administration with facts? link?

I'm tired of all these mexicans, I mean illegals killing our adult industry too. As Americans we need to stop the foreigners with their illegal tubes and shady billing practices and offshore corporations, etc...

Are you that stupid? That panel is made up of industry lawyers - of course they are not going to say that everything is fine :1orglaugh

They are doing what lawyers do - spreading fear.

Get a fucking clue :2 cents:

As with any subject, you're going to get conflicting stories, most of the info you got is a year old and yes mine is based on an article on XBiz. What was said on XBiz made sense , but as anything in politics happens, you'll might never get a straight answer. And any graphs will be grouped together with underage convictions. It never made sense to me that Obama would go after porn, I mean it's not in his agenda and he has little time for thing not in his agenda, you know like generating jobs.

Didn't read everything in the post did you?

OK< ASSHAT, don't come in here with the fucking tack of a 8th grader and try to blast me you fucking troll.
Unless you have some fucking facts and can act like you have brain cell fucking one in your empty echo chamber head, shut the fuck up and go back to your superman cartoons.
Your short bus just showed up and you can't figure out why the door won't open.

these threads are getting annoying

O, so the first voice in this thread that is trying to make this a racial thing, when all else fails, play the race card, Fuck You

Don't read them then
I read most of the threads on this forum, kinda got hooked when I was a moderator here.

well if they see it that way fine they know what their doing is illegal thats why they hide. about 2 weeks and its open game. :)

If you read the article at the beginning of the thread, it said nothing about any problems with racial profiling and they have had this on the books for a while. Just a bunch of chicken littles looking to the sky.

http://www.kold.com/global/Story.asp?s=12524931

PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY, VA (KOLD) - For the last three years, a county in Virginia has remained under the radar in the immigration debate even though it has a law almost identical to Arizona's immigration law.

The ordinance in Prince William County was passed in 2007. It initially required police to check the status of detainees they suspected of being undocumented immigrants but one year later it was revised.

Officers now question all criminal suspects about their immigration status once an arrest is made.

In 2008, the University of Virginia conducted a survey to see what effects, if any, the Prince William County law had. It concluded initial fears about racial profiling did not happen.

It also show that schools saw a drop in English as a second language enrollment. There was also a drop in uninsured mothers giving birth and individuals turned over to immigration and customs enforcement

well thats our battle you have a bigger issue in your yard. :) Im fighting for Az every week. its a last stand to keep illegals here. this shit end in july!

California tried it with Prop 187 , but it was shot down by one judge.
If this gets past the law suit Holder and Obamanation has against Arizona,I hope they finally read the law, then maybe California will follow suit and adopt similar laws and stop the political correctness that's helping to bankrupt the state

so its shot down change it pressure congress. cali is a big battle prop 187 that was just wrong a police code for murder :1orglaugh i think its time for another try. :2 cents: lets gitter done.

The thing it about half of those stories I posted are from the last few months. To me it shows that a year ago there was no increase in porn prosecutions and there still isn't any increase today.

Like you said they often lump convictions with CP in the same category and those may be up, but as I said, I spent about 30 minutes searching and came up with zero information to show that Obama was increasing porn prosecutions, just the opposite was actually the case.

YOU = IDIOT

Why the fuck would Brianna Banks partner up with you to run her site? That shit is going to totally fucking fail :1orglaugh

You're so fucking stupid, you can't even spell Briana, what a fucking loser

Why is it when idiots fail, they insult, don't you have anything to add to the discussion or are you still saying that anything a lawyer says can't be trusted

Wait, Obama and his wife is a lawyer

I looked too, I can't find anything either directions that is conclusive
Obama administration says they aren't interested, Obama is a lawyer
Lawyers at an Xbiz show say they are going up

Both are lawyers, lawyers can't be trusted

Never was a truer statement ever spoken. :thumbsup