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billywatson 06-05-2010 07:29 PM

Steve Driver, Samrai Sword Weilding Murderer, Ends His Own Life
 
Porn actor suspected of murder jumps off cliff, dies after daylong standoff with police
June 5, 2010 | 7:15 pm

A porn actor suspected of fatally stabbing a former co-worker and wounding two others during a violent rampage died Saturday after he jumped off a cliff after a dramatic, daylong standoff with police in which he threatened to kill himself with a samurai sword.

Stephen Clancy Hill, 34, spent about eight hours on the edge of a rocky cliff in Canoga Park surrounded by police and talking to crisis negotiators.

With dusk approaching and Hill continuing to threaten to kill himself, members of the Los Angeles Police Department's elite SWAT unit tried to subdue and apprehend him, using some sort of less-than-lethal weapon, said Deputy Chief Kirk Albanese, who oversaw the incident.

Seated on the cliff?s edge, Hill threw himself over at 5:30 p.m. and suffered fatal head injuries from the roughly 50-foot fall, authorities said.

Albanese declined to discuss the specifics of the weapon used and the plan that had been devised to capture Hill.

?He was bent on taking his own life,? Albanese said. ?It?s very unfortunate. We wanted this to end a different way.?

The long standoff began about 9:30 a.m. when a caller alerted police after spotting Hill?s blue 1998 Toyota RAV4 in the 8800 block of Azul Drive, said LAPD Officer Bruce Borihahn.

Officers called the SWAT team and negotiators after Hill made his way up the cliff, where he stood with a sword in hand, pointing it at his chest, Borihahn said. It was not known whether the sword also was the murder weapon used in Tuesday's attack.

Hill had been at large since he allegedly used a samurai sword to attack several employees at Ultima DVD Inc., a video distribution facility in Van Nuys where he did production work and apparently lived, police and prosecutors said.

Investigators said Hill allegedly attacked one man in a back room of the business, and then turned toward two colleagues who had rushed over to help the man, swinging the weapon repeatedly and gashing both of them.

The three victims were rushed to Northridge Hospital Medical Center, where Herbert Hin Wong, 30, of Canoga Park was pronounced dead, police said. A second man was treated and released, while the third victim remains in the hospital, Borihahn said.

Wong, a native of China, acted in adult films under the name Tom Dong and appeared with the accused killer in several films.

Investigators are trying to determine if Hill may have been angry with his colleagues after being informed that he was being fired from his job and evicted from his living quarters.

Hill, of Riverdale, Md., was charged Friday with one count of murder and five counts of attempted murder in connection with Tuesday?s attack, according to the Los Angeles County district attorney?s office.

Hill, who performed under the name Steve Driver, had a previous conviction for assault with a firearm involving an instructor on a Maryland college campus in 1998, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

He had threatened a teaching assistant with a handgun if he did not get an A in a class, according to a 1999 article in the Washington Post about the incident.

Hill allegedly told the instructor he was ?a mobster and would dismember the instructor's body if he didn't get the grade.? During the trial, Hill testified that he threatened to kill the instructor after the teacher requested oral sex, which the instructor denied, according to the article.

Andy CHOOPA 06-05-2010 07:31 PM

Wow they have video of him falling!

Agent 488 06-05-2010 07:33 PM

shit happens.

DBS.US 06-05-2010 07:40 PM

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...iAh8rQ?size=s2

baddog 06-05-2010 07:44 PM

Good for him.

Spunky 06-05-2010 07:55 PM

Jesus,what a way to go..a shame when a mind snaps like that

TurboAngel 06-05-2010 07:57 PM

Well he should have jumped 1st.

$5 submissions 06-05-2010 11:57 PM

Quite tragic for all concerned.

VikingMan 06-06-2010 02:15 AM

Glad he killed himself so we do not have to waste any tax dollars on a trial and prison for this turd.:thumbsup

borked 06-06-2010 02:22 AM

BBC is reporting he fell after being hit by a "non-lethal munition"...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_...a/10248128.stm

RadicalSights 06-06-2010 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 17221073)
BBC is reporting he fell after being hit by a "non-lethal munition"...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_...a/10248128.stm

Isn't that involuntary manslaughter?

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 08:55 AM

"threw himself off"....?

More like, the police hit him with a taser and he fell to his death. So if we strip away the public relations spin, the police killed another person.

Ethersync 06-06-2010 09:17 AM

Wtf :1orglaugh


baddog 06-06-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 17221119)
Isn't that involuntary manslaughter?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17221626)
"threw himself off"....?

More like, the police hit him with a taser and he fell to his death. So if we strip away the public relations spin, the police killed another person.

Who cares?

crockett 06-06-2010 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 17221073)
BBC is reporting he fell after being hit by a "non-lethal munition"...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_...a/10248128.stm


There is video.. he clearly jumped on his own after the police started moving in.

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17221680)
No.



Who cares?

If nobody cares, why don't they just tell it like it is then? They killed him. Period.

baddog 06-06-2010 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17221692)
If nobody cares, why don't they just tell it like it is then? They killed him. Period.

Why didn't you video it for us since you were there?

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17221699)
Why didn't you video it for us since you were there?

There is already video, however I did notice they conveniently edited out the taser portion. How fortunate for the police.

Ethersync 06-06-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17221702)
There is already video, however I did notice they conveniently edited out the taser portion. How fortunate for the police.

Unedited...

baddog 06-06-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17221702)
There is already video, however I did notice they conveniently edited out the taser portion. How fortunate for the police.



I see taser and I see him pushing himself off the cliff. Great fucking editing.

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17221708)
Unedited...

Well, there ya go. I don't have a problem with a piece of shit murderer wanting to off himself. But I do have a problem with our publicly funded police force driving a man to the edge of a cliff, hitting him with 50,000 volts and killing him as a result. By that video, they clearly shot him in the back twice. What did they think would happen? He would offer up his wrists for handcuffing?

Police = Murderous cowardly thugs

baddog 06-06-2010 09:41 AM

I like the way they edited in the firemen to make it look like they were trying to save his life.

Maybe it was just a body double.

baddog 06-06-2010 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17221717)

Police = Murderous cowardly thugs

Amputate Your Head = Stupid fucking troll

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 09:44 AM

Police = State funded thuggery. Only thing that surprises me here is that they didn't take the opportunity to beat him with night sticks before they killed him. Cops do enjoy dishing out a good beating on people.

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17221728)
Amputate Your Head = Stupid fucking troll

Awwwww, whatssa-matta baddog? The truth hurt?

charlie g 06-06-2010 09:58 AM

Police should have shot him in the head immediately and saved the 1 hour standoff.

baddog 06-06-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17221755)
Police should have shot him in the head immediately and saved the 1 hour standoff.

One hour? It was all day long. Huge waste of money and resources. They should have let Amp handle it. Maybe they could become roommates.

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17221755)
Police should have shot him in the head immediately and saved the 1 hour standoff.

Wasn't an hour. They cornered and taunted him at the edge of a cliff for 8 hours.

And this cements my point. If the guy really wanted to off himself, he had all day to do it. Significantly, the guy didn't end up dead until the police shot him in the back with a couple of tasers. "Police said Hill jumped, but also added it was unclear what caused his death." - source= CNN

Already well into the coverup. Another one swept under the rug. Yay police! Let's give them another fucking medal to pin on their chests for being so "brave" in driving a clearly disturbed man, that probably needed professional mental help, over a cliff.

pOrRiDgE 06-06-2010 10:11 AM

hm? ?

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17221766)
Huge waste of money and resources.

I totally agree. Maybe they should have spent 6 months planning it out like the AZ police did to raid a Burlington Coat Factory.

Smiley 06-06-2010 10:16 AM

sorry...but who cares how he died...another POS off this planet...should of been manly enough to kill himself after he attacked his coworkers

RTP 06-06-2010 10:18 AM

from my perspective with that amount of witnesses present, news crews and media covering...it would be near impossible to get away with a cover-up of any sort. i mean hey, they have the full "death scene" live on video

they basically went with the wrong official police statement...just shitty pr. now this would have pleased the human rights activists - "faced with the possibility of being captured, the cowared was tasered and attempted to elude police by escaping off the side of the cliff...resulting in death"

dude didn't want to be tasered so took his chances on a 50 foot fall. it's not like they pushed him or the force from the taser caused him to fall...he basically scooted off the cliff, samurai sword in hand

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Smiley (Post 17221822)
sorry...but who cares how he died...another POS off this planet...should of been manly enough to kill himself after he attacked his coworkers

It's important because the fact that he died at the hands of police, not himself. The guy being a piece of shit is irrelevant. Who's next? Some old lady that gets pulled over for not signaling? Whoops! Already been done!

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTP (Post 17221831)
from my perspective with that amount of witnesses present, news crews and media covering...it would be near impossible to get away with a cover-up of any sort. i mean hey, they have the full "death scene" live on video

they basically went with the wrong official police statement...just shitty pr. now this would have pleased the human rights activists - "faced with the possibility of being captured, the cowared was tasered and attempted to elude police by escaping off the side of the cliff...resulting in death"

dude didn't want to be tasered so took his chances on a 50 foot fall. it's not like they pushed him or the force from the taser caused him to fall...he basically scooted off the cliff, samurai sword in hand

Except that, with 2 sets of taser prongs in your back pumping juice into you, there is no way to ever know if "sliding off the cliff" was a voluntary action or not. When your entire nervous system is getting rocked with 50,000 volts, your muscles tend to do some really bizarre things.

DEA - banned for life 06-06-2010 10:26 AM

How did he wind up on the cliff to begin with..was he there to try and get the courgage ot jump or was he just conrnered by polce there?......i didnt see anyone jumping..i saw a person on the edge of a clif tryin got avoid the tasers/police..i dont think he relized this action would lead to his own death...on the other hand..nobody has mentioned the people he attacked..there condition or what arrangments are being made for there recovery :2cents

Smiley 06-06-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17221833)
It's important because the fact that he died at the hands of police, not himself. The guy being a piece of shit is irrelevant. Who's next? Some old lady that gets pulled over for not signaling? Whoops! Already been done!

ill give you that...but i also see what like 15/20 cops all around him and how many more were down below...yeah that a good way to spend tax payers money...how much other crimes were committed because the boys in blue all wanted to be there looking like they are important...but ill agree that cops overreact way to many times...when talking or true police work does get thrown out of the window many times nowadays....its easier to just tazer them and say they felt threatened (ie: old lady)

had they bum rushed him and grabbed him off the cliff..then wed have tax payer money paying for this murderous pos, then housing him for all those years...in then end he wanted to kill himself...sorry suicide is a cowards way out and if your going to threaten all day to do it..i say give them a push...save us time & money....no sympathy for the guy

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Smiley (Post 17221881)
ill give you that...but i also see what like 15/20 cops all around him and how many more were down below...yeah that a good way to spend tax payers money...how much other crimes were committed because the boys in blue all wanted to be there looking like they are important...

had they bum rushed him and grabbed him off the cliff..then wed have tax payer money paying for this murderous pos, then housing him for all those years...in then end he wanted to kill himself...sorry suicide is a cowards way out and if your going to threaten all day to do it..i say give them a push...save us time & money....no sympathy for the guy

So what you're saying is the police are allowed to be judge, jury & executioner now. The police get to decide who lives or dies. Fuck the trial.

Go America! :thumbsup

brentbacardi 06-06-2010 11:10 AM

Amputate your head... I do disagree with most of your posts in general but I think you are right on with this! :thumbsup

The police are supposed to just get the guy in for questioning and take to court, NOT KILL SOMEONE! He didn't rush at a cop with a samurai sword, he just sat on the cliff. And btw look at videos of people getting hit with tasers, they kind of fall or flail around weird because THEY CANT CONTROL THEIR OWN BODIES!!! now imagine the force of two tasers? Did he jump? Or did his legs collapse and his body spasmed him off the cliff? I think the latter.

And ontop of all this, tasers CAN kill people, the police have no business shooting people with tasers if they can help it, LET ALONE TWO TASERS!!!!! :2 cents:

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by brentbacardi (Post 17222006)
Amputate your head... I do disagree with most of your posts in general but I think you are right on with this! :thumbsup

The police are supposed to just get the guy in for questioning and take to court, NOT KILL SOMEONE! He didn't rush at a cop with a samurai sword, he just sat on the cliff. And btw look at videos of people getting hit with tasers, they kind of fall or flail around weird because THEY CANT CONTROL THEIR OWN BODIES!!! now imagine the force of two tasers? Did he jump? Or did his legs collapse and his body spasmed him off the cliff? I think the latter.

And ontop of all this, tasers CAN kill people, the police have no business shooting people with tasers if they can help it, LET ALONE TWO TASERS!!!!! :2 cents:

And especially on the side of a cliff.

Those cops knew what they were doing. Just look at the way they all rush up on him. That's intimidation enough to jar someone, but then you add a couple of tasers....

Jim_Gunn 06-06-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17221883)
So what you're saying is the police are allowed to be judge, jury & executioner now. The police get to decide who lives or dies. Fuck the trial.

Go America! :thumbsup

What should the police have done in your opinion? Not used the Taser to try to subdue him? Kept the stand-off going into the night? They talked for hours, at some point they had to do something.

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 17222032)
What should the police have done in your opinion? Not used the Taser to try to subdue him? Kept the stand-off going into the night? They talked for hours, at some point they had to do something.

Ummm... it's one man with a sword, versus what? 40 cops? They had been there for 8 hours already. At some point the guy is going to either have to take a shit, eat, or sleep. It's not rocket surgery.

brentbacardi 06-06-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 17222032)
What should the police have done in your opinion? Not used the Taser to try to subdue him? Kept the stand-off going into the night? They talked for hours, at some point they had to do something.

Well, what would police have done pre-taser era? They threw that rule book out and made two rules....

1. - Taser the crap out of anyone and say they were threatening.
2. - See rule number 1

And couldn't they have just backed off, let the guy walk away from the cliff and run at him and tackle him? Or taser him then? Its not like he is going to get away from 30 freakin cops with tasers :2 cents:

amacontent 06-06-2010 11:37 AM

Fuck him, hope he burns in hell. Feel sorry for his family if anything.

Amputate Your Head 06-06-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 17222083)
Fuck him, hope he burns in hell. Feel sorry for his family if anything.

Sure hope you never find yourself in a situation where "Innocent Until Proven Guilty In A Court Of Law" applies. The police might just decide to "save the taxpayers the trouble" in your case too.

brentbacardi 06-06-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17222097)
Sure hope you never find yourself in a situation where "Innocent Until Proven Guilty In A Court Of Law" applies. The police might just decide to "save the taxpayers the trouble" in your case too.

Quote:

Hill testified that he threatened to kill the instructor after the teacher requested oral sex
- Original Article

Maybe the guy asked him for a oral sex... like the teacher did but now we will never know because the cops had to kill him! :1orglaugh

Im just fuking around with this one.... lol

PenisFace 06-06-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17221728)
Amputate Your Head = Stupid fucking troll

You're trolling pretty hard, too. Did you even watch the video he posted? They shot him with a taser when he was threatening to kill himself, while sitting at the edge of a cliff. I think it was pretty fuckin' obvious that they shouldn't have closed in on someone who is suicidal and standing at the edge of a cliff, at least not with a taser.

It also doesn't matter what he did, the police have a duty to save lives, regardless of who it is. If you can't understand this, maybe you need to read up on how the justice system works. this is another fine example of a taser being misused. Remember a few years back when they tazered the guy on the fire escape? He fell a few stories and was killed when his head hit the ground first. You shouldn't fucking shoot someone with a taser if they are next to a potentially deadly drop.

But you will find some way to refute this since it goes against your ass backwards way of thinking. I think the sun is starting to effect your brain.

borked 06-06-2010 12:21 PM

I don't know wtf that shot was at blank range into the back but it looks like that is what precipitated the fall. In which case it's just disgusting - law enforcement using excessive force to apprehend someone, which resulted in too much force and the guy died.

I don't know that guy from adam, but it looks like too much force to me. An inquiry led by the police will no doubt show nothing un-toward happened.

dynastoned 06-06-2010 12:24 PM

pretty clear to me that he was ready to die.

fuck em

pOrRiDgE 06-06-2010 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17222097)
Sure hope you never find yourself in a situation where "Innocent Until Proven Guilty In A Court Of Law" applies. The police might just decide to "save the taxpayers the trouble" in your case too.

You are an idiot.

brentbacardi 06-06-2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynastoned (Post 17222228)
pretty clear to me that he was ready to die.

fuck em

So what if he was ready? The police are supposed to save lives if at all possible, and they CAUSED this guys death.


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