They pretty much fail in every episode to stop the whaling. Isn't the captain on trial in Japan now?
Captain Buthane of the Adi Gil is.... the ship the Japanese ran over and destroyed... on camera. And they do not always fail. They ran into them, collided ship to ship at the end of last season.
That's going to be interesting. I hope they don't have that much scripted stuff in it.
Two things that were obviously scripted in the first season:
- The girl hitting her pelvis on the boat.
- The ship getting lost in the ice but then magically freeing itself from the ice in a matter of a few hours.
Last nights was good kinda of.. I wish they were allowed to have guns to protect themself I don't mean to shoot people but to fire warning shots etc.. but that is prolly a stupid idea lol good show, before that show came on I didn't know that shit was going on. It is very sad to see how they kill them whales! :L(
isn't this show somewhat backwards? fact is, it's legal to hunt whales but illegal to throw acid bombs from ship to ship. that's terrorism. don't those guys fly a pirate flag also?
wouldn't you agree that the whale rights activists on that boat are the real criminals?
isn't this show somewhat backwards? fact is, it's legal to hunt whales but illegal to throw acid bombs from ship to ship. that's terrorism. don't those guys fly a pirate flag also?
wouldn't you agree that the whale rights activists on that boat are the real criminals?
It is not legal to hunt whales. The Japanese are exploiting a loophole. However, even if you give them the benefit of the doubt, they are still hunting in a protected whale sanctuary (Australian sector of Antarctica), the Japanese simply refuse to acknowledge it. That's no different than if I go out and start killing people because I don't "recognize" the law.
The acid they throw is butyric acid. It is non-toxic. All it does is stink really, really bad.
If it was up to me, I'd be out there sinking those Japanese ships.
EDIT: By the way, a good number of the whales they are killing are endangered. So they're flouting more than a few international laws.
It is not legal to hunt whales. The Japanese are exploiting a loophole. However, even if you give them the benefit of the doubt, they are still hunting in a protected whale sanctuary (Australian sector of Antarctica), the Japanese simply refuse to acknowledge it. That's no different than if I go out and start killing people because I don't "recognize" the law.
The acid they throw is butyric acid. It is non-toxic. All it does is stink really, really bad.
If it was up to me, I'd be out there sinking those Japanese ships.
aren't those the minke whales in that region? it's my understanding they are not in jeopardy of becoming extinct any time soon. seems to me if one is interested in really saving whales, they would target large net fishing vessels which kills more whales on the endangered list than whaling does.
i don't see how these whale advocates are any less criminal than those anti-abortion advocates that terrorize abortion clinics.
aren't those the minke whales in that region? it's my understanding they are not in jeopardy of becoming extinct any time soon. seems to me if one is interested in really saving whales, they would target large net fishing vessels which kills more whales on the endangered list than whaling does.
i don't see how these whale advocates are any less criminal than those anti-abortion advocates that terrorize abortion clinics.
Well supposedly the japanese are allowed to catch more then just the minke's. they have a quota every year, which they said on the that they can catch 10 of one of the endangered species. i forget the exact name.
i definitely do not think that these guys should be boarding any of the japanese fleet. but as far as the buteric acid, the japanese in the show are no angels. They throw things back, use LRAD, and use water cannons. Sure they were provoked first... but it's still an entertaining show and I do not agree with whaling any endangered species on purpose.
aren't those the minke whales in that region? it's my understanding they are not in jeopardy of becoming extinct any time soon. seems to me if one is interested in really saving whales, they would target large net fishing vessels which kills more whales on the endangered list than whaling does.
i don't see how these whale advocates are any less criminal than those anti-abortion advocates that terrorize abortion clinics.
i want some sea shepherd gear, love the logo and the show the site sells a few things, i want a hat and a sweatshirt
i want to see the attention whore, vegan pussies sink. I only watch it to see them fail, which is every episode. I'm really non partial on the whole whale thing, it's that those guys are so pathetic. They are also retarded ramming another ship in the south pacific. If they would have damaged their haul another couple feet lower they all could have died. Real smart, you get pissed off your stink bombs didn't stop them from killing a whale so you ram their boat. retards.
Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
You want them to travel all the way to the Arctic to sink? Why not just wish them to sink where they are?
less chance of rescue and the water is a lot colder down there.
i want to see the attention whore, vegan pussies sink. I only watch it to see them fail, which is every episode. I'm really non partial on the whole whale thing, it's that those guys are so pathetic. They are also retarded ramming another ship in the south pacific. If they would have damaged their haul another couple feet lower they all could have died. Real smart, you get pissed off your stink bombs didn't stop them from killing a whale so you ram their boat. retards.
less chance of rescue and the water is a lot colder down there.
Wow I was waiting for someone to post this. I couldn't agree more. The "crew" are a bunch of reckless amateurs. I can't wait to see on the news that one of their worn out ass ships sinks and kills them all in the frigid waters.
I watched it and all I can think about now is how do I get a job on the Japanese fleet hosing down and assaulting vegan hippies? It sounds pretty much like a dream job!
I watched it and all I can think about now is how do I get a job on the Japanese fleet hosing down and assaulting vegan hippies? It sounds pretty much like a dream job!
Yeap I feel the same way, it would be fun on the other side and fighting back. Would be easy too. these idiots aren't that bright.
Kill whales, don't kill whales... it's not my cause. Don't kill them is fine with me. But these rejects are the worst of the worst. They really think they are making a difference by throwing stink bombs which 90% of them pussies can't throw it hard enough to make it on the ship. Then what... a stink bomb goes off on the deck of a boat where they slaughter and kill huge whales... wow like that doesn't already stink. South park nailed this one... was a great episode.
The people on the ship only do that shit because they want to make themselves feel better not because they want to save whales. Proof is because they have never saved a whale. But if they take a couple months off their pathetic lives to go throw stink bombs in the south pacific they feel like they "making a difference" so it makes them feel all warm and cozy inside. Then they go back to their pathetic lives feeling like they have done something really meaningful.
It is all fun and games till someone gets hurt, which is going to happen sooner than later. vegan pussies.
It is all fun and games till someone gets hurt, which is going to happen sooner than later. vegan pussies.
Of all the people to mess with too they pick the Japanese. Japan has a long tradition of not taking any shit. In one episode the Captain was calling the Japanese out asking them where was their "Samurai spirit"? I just kept thinking he better hope and pray they don't show him.
Of all the people to mess with too they pick the Japanese. Japan has a long tradition of not taking any shit. In one episode the Captain was calling the Japanese out asking them where was their "Samurai spirit"? I just kept thinking he better hope and pray they don't show him.
Since they are whaling illegally in Australia's protected sanctuary section of Antarctica, if the Japanese add military or military weapons to the mix, there will be an international incident. It will be an act of war.
Since they are whaling illegally in Australia's protected sanctuary section of Antarctica, if the Japanese add military or military weapons to the mix, there will be an international incident. It will be an act of war.
I would think ramming someone else's ship is an act of war. OR at the very least a form of aggression that should allow them to defend themselves. The vegan pussies video taped themselves ramming the Jap ship, producing evidence to show that they were at fault and then they all gay hi 5'ed each other after wards (some shit their panties).
If some one rammed my ship and tried to sink me, I would think it would be ok for me to shot a missile at them if they ever got on a collision course with me again.
omfg, now the master twat says on the commercials, "are you ready to die for the whales"... vegan pussy please, the only way those people are going to die is if you ram another ship and puncture a hole in your own hull and sink.
So Amp you have an issue with the hired and trained police tasering a murderer but fully support a group of non-appointed people that run around the world attacking private fishing vessels?
Interesting.
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So Amp you have an issue with the hired and trained police tasering a murderer but fully support a group of non-appointed people that run around the world attacking private fishing vessels?
Interesting.
1. I have a problem with the "trained" police executing people without a trial.
2. They are not private fishing vessels. Even the Japanese will tell you that they are "research" ships, which is a load of shit.
3. No one else will enforce the international ban on whaling, so Paul Watson created Sea Shepard and decided to do it himself. Where are your "trained police"? Why aren't the duly appointed law enforcers shutting down Japan's illegal whaling? Why isn't the Australian government enforcing their own sanctuary?
Some facts:
The Sea Shepard crew are non-violent. The Japanese whalers have deliberately sunk one boat already, and kidnapped three people. One of them they (the Japanese) attempted to throw overboard which, in the Antarctic, is murder. Then they were beaten and lashed to the side of the ship. They're harvesting whales by the thousands to serve on dinner plates in Japanese restaurants. This is illegal. You support the police but you do not support the law? That's ass backwards in my books.
Still think they are peaceful fishing vessels?
Q: What do you call a "sanctuary" without enforcement?
A: Open space for poachers.
You & your girl go to a nice expensive reserved restaurant for a special dinner.
Then in comes a 6 year old's birthday entourage of 40 kids all screaming and throwing things.
Then everyone around you starts smoking, and one dude literally just takes your steak right off your plate then lays a greasy kiss on your woman.
You are furious and attempt to complain to the management, but the owner says, "Well, yeah but we're not going to do anything about it. Sorry." So you call the police, and they tell you, "yeah, but we have other things to do. Sorry."
One guy in the entire restaurant decides to stand up for you & your girl, but everyone else in there just laughs and calls him a dirty hippie.
Nice? Wait for it....
As you begin to leave and just as you're about to open the door, someone fires a harpoon cannon and impales you, drags you into the back, carves you up and packs your pieces in a box bound for Japan.
It's not as simple as you make it to be from a legal stand point. I'm fairly certain you're just trolling GFY these days though and I'm not going to bother.
It's not as simple as you make it to be from a legal stand point. I'm fairly certain you're just trolling GFY these days though and I'm not going to bother.
I know, but I didn't think the finer points of an already bizarre international moratorium really would have added anything but confusion and stray deviant sub-discussions. I never intended this thread to be a full blown "like it or hate it" discussion. At the time I was merely excited that the new season was about to begin.
As for the "trolling" part... well, I don't know what you consider trolling. Mostly I've just been sharpening up my writing and debating skills. GFY is a great place to do that because it always has such a wide array of topics and the member mentality is usually more real-worldly, if that makes sense, versus say the people that make comments to the CNN site through Facebook. And because I do truly enjoy a good heated discussion about most anything. I like to think I do a better job at it now compared to being shitfaced drunk and getting emotional or pissed off about the topic and losing control of the discussion.
So... I don't know, you tell me. Is that "trolling"? If it is, then okay, I'm a troll. What of it?
i don't see how these whale advocates are any less criminal than those anti-abortion advocates that terrorize abortion clinics.
The main difference is that the oceans are mostly public property. property is a poor word. Its not even property. Just an open,common zone.
An abortion clinic is on private property. The abortion argument is much more complex than that so lets focus on the whaling.
If you are fishing/hunting in the open seas, it means you are taking fish which "belongs" to the public (everyone) and keeping it for yourself. I have mixed feelings about these anti-whaling guys .... but from an ethics point of view, I cant condemn them.
The Japanese whalers claim they have the right to capture and keep the whales for their private use. the anti-whalers claim they have the right to keep these whales in the ocean and stop anyone who tries to take "their" whales.
2 opposing agendas in a public zone ..... means anything goes.
The way I see it .... the Japanese boats have no more to "steal" or "claim" whales from the water than the other boat has right to claim it for themselves and stop other people from killing and taking "their" whales out of the water.
Since the Japanese want to kill the whales for personal gain and the other guys want to leave the whales in the water, I tend to side with the anti-whalers. Why should I feel sorry for whalers who take "public food/animals" and sell it and keep the profits for themselves? In a way, they are stealing from the rest of us.
Here's is an analogy to spur some thoughts on this subject.
Imagine if Japan (or any other country) built a magical machine which collects sea water and stores or vaporizes it. Imagine if the sea levels severely dropped because of this machine.
Would you think, oh well, let the Japanese do what they want with the oceans?
Or would you propose making a treaty with Japan (and other countries) to outlaw depletion of the seas?
The seas are common zones (not private property). I cant image how it could be fair that Japan (or any single country) could claim the right to ownership of all the water and creatures in the seas.
Whaling (and fishing) are forms of capturing and "owning" the creatures in the seas. Why should any single person, business,government have the unlimited right to as many whales or fish as they want to catch?
I love this show, it's a complete trainwreck, first I LOVE whales but it never fails about 10 minutes into any episode I'm laughing at those hippies and hoping one of those jap ships sinks them.
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