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kane 09-28-2009 01:17 AM

Roman Polanski arrested.
 
For those who may not know who that is he directed the movie Chinatown and won an academy award for directing the movie The Pianist. In 1979 he pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor when he gave booze and drugs to a 13 year old and then had sex with her. Before he was sentence he jumped bond and went to France where he has been living ever since. They don't extradite for non-violent crimes. He went to Switzerland to accept an award and was arrested there. I guess he will now be extradited back the US.

I wonder if he will finally end up in jail.

Here is the story.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/27/...ted/index.html

Dejan 09-28-2009 01:33 AM

If he's gifted that don't mean he's a god, put that pedo in jail...

Adam X 09-28-2009 03:12 AM

yeah he's been on the lamb for days... dudes goin to the pen. sucks. but hey, 13 years old??? come on man..

Davy 09-28-2009 03:28 AM

Well, if you are a criminal in hiding, you better should not leave your hide-out.

It's been over 30 years, though. He will plea of lapse of time.

kane 09-28-2009 03:41 AM

I was just watching CNN And they said that he may end up fighting the entire plea because there was a conspiracy against him during his original plea. He is claiming that he made a deal to get a specific sentence if he pleaded guilty and now he says there were other dealings and information that told him he would not be getting that sentence so he ran

So it looks like once again if you have money you can do what you want, plead guilty to crime, leave the country and stay on the lamb for 30 years and still possibly not get punished.

Sarah_Jayne 09-28-2009 03:49 AM

Amazingly talented but time to face the music.

seeandsee 09-28-2009 04:10 AM

finaly jail for fucker!

rowan 09-28-2009 04:12 AM

A grown man having anal sex with a drugged up 13 year old is not considered a violent crime? I'd call that rape.

WiredGuy 09-28-2009 04:12 AM

This case is taking an odd turn as the victim no longer wants these charges and there's been a lot of support for clemency on this case. Interesting to see if he gets charged or not.
WG

H-Tom 09-28-2009 05:20 AM

She looked like this back than:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematic...pulsionjma.jpg

The Duck 09-28-2009 05:31 AM

He looks creepy.

http://i37.tinypic.com/1075354.jpg

GatorB 09-28-2009 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16366313)
This case is taking an odd turn as the victim no longer wants these charges and there's been a lot of support for clemency on this case. Interesting to see if he gets charged or not.
WG

Um actually before he fled the prosecuter and Polanski had a plea deal. It's the judge( now deceased ) that fucked the whole thing up.

GatorB 09-28-2009 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by piernik (Post 16366425)

Looks 13 to me. :error

Fletch XXX 09-28-2009 06:12 AM

raping a drunk 13 year old is pretty low, rope is cheap

GatorB 09-28-2009 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 16366302)
finaly jail for fucker!

Actually he spent 42 days in a maximum secutity prison before he and the DA came to a plea agrement.

GatorB 09-28-2009 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 16366071)
For those who may not know who that is he directed the movie Chinatown and won an academy award for directing the movie The Pianist. In 1979 he pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor when he gave booze and drugs to a 13 year old and then had sex with her. Before he was sentence he jumped bond and went to France where he has been living ever since. They don't extradite for non-violent crimes. He went to Switzerland to accept an award and was arrested there. I guess he will now be extradited back the US.

I wonder if he will finally end up in jail.

Here is the story.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/27/...ted/index.html

Ok get some facts straight

"The director pleaded guilty in 1977 to a single count of having unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, acknowledging he had sex with a 13-year-old girl."

That totally different that saying

"pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor when he gave booze and drugs to a 13 year old and then had sex with her"

The DA said he drugged and raped her. And if they had a case why give him a plea deal that had no jail time except for the 42 days he already served?

Darrell 09-28-2009 06:34 AM

Just reading about him, I didn't know that most of his family died in the concentration camps during WWII and he survived the war with the help of Polish Roman Catholic families.

And in 1969 his pregnant wife Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson Family :Oh crap

SpicyM 09-28-2009 06:56 AM

This happened after the murder of his wife right?? Well he was desperate for young meat.. :winkwink:

GatorB 09-28-2009 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 16366566)
Just reading about him, I didn't know that most of his family died in the concentration camps during WWII and he survived the war with the help of Polish Roman Catholic families.

And in 1969 his pregnant wife Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson Family :Oh crap

That would tend to fuck someone up I would suspect. And Tate wasn't just pregnant she was nearly due. The Swiss cops arrest him 2 days after the death of one of the Manson family and the one that admitted she was the one that actually stabbed Tate to death. Nice timing cops.

ShellyCrash 09-28-2009 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by piernik (Post 16366425)

That's not the girl, that's Catherine Deneuve

CaptainHowdy 09-28-2009 07:09 AM

Noooooooooooooooo! PS: The girl on the pic is the timeless Deneuve...

GatorB 09-28-2009 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16366672)
That's not the girl, that's Catherine Deneuve

She's still hot.

ShellyCrash 09-28-2009 07:19 AM

Sleeping with a 13 year old is WRONG, but the facts in this case are being completely twisted.

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16366525)
Actually he spent 42 days in a maximum secutity prison before he and the DA came to a plea agrement.

This is true. A plea agreement was reached between the defense and the DA, Polanski served time in prison, and then the day of his release the judge pulled out at the last minute and wanted to add more time to Polanski's sentence.

The reason the DA was so quick to come to a plea agreement with Polanski is because of the character issues with the victim. The 13 year old model Polanski took photos of and later had sex with was not a virigin, and in fact had slept with numerous other adult men, also photographers. Prior to the charges the girl's mother was aware her daughter drank, smoked pot and had affairs with adult men. Huge credibility issues there :2 cents:

I keep reading these stories that Polanski just skipped town when faced with the charges and it's complete bullshit. Polanski did everything the DA asked him to, he only skipped town when his plea bargain was renegged- after he had served the time requested.

Even the original prosecuter in the case has called for the charges to be dropped and has publically admitted that what happened to Polanski after he served his time was a criminal miscarrage of justice on the part of the presiding judge.

DaddyHalbucks 09-28-2009 07:29 AM

The guy jumped bail. It seems pretty cut and dry.

CDSmith 09-28-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16366708)
Sleeping with a 13 year old is WRONG, but the facts in this case are being completely twisted.



This is true. A plea agreement was reached between the defense and the DA, Polanski served time in prison, and then the day of his release the judge pulled out at the last minute and wanted to add more time to Polanski's sentence.

The reason the DA was so quick to come to a plea agreement with Polanski is because of the character issues with the victim. The 13 year old model Polanski took photos of and later had sex with was not a virigin, and in fact had slept with numerous other adult men, also photographers. Prior to the charges the girl's mother was aware her daughter drank, smoked pot and had affairs with adult men. Huge credibility issues there :2 cents:

I keep reading these stories that Polanski just skipped town when faced with the charges and it's complete bullshit. Polanski did everything the DA asked him to, he only skipped town when his plea bargain was renegged- after he had served the time requested.

Even the original prosecuter in the case has called for the charges to be dropped and has publically admitted that what happened to Polanski after he served his time was a criminal miscarrage of justice on the part of the presiding judge.

I watched the movie (documentary?) on this just last year, all this sounds about right.

The part I forget is if they addressed in the film anything to do with any sort of statute of limitations, or if there isn't one then why isn't there one? I've wondered that for a while now, how after 30 years and in light of all the inner facts of case, all the behind the scenes information etc, how it can still be hanging over the guy's head like it is.

ShellyCrash 09-28-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 16366778)
I watched the movie (documentary?) on this just last year, all this sounds about right.

The part I forget is if they addressed in the film anything to do with any sort of statute of limitations, or if there isn't one then why isn't there one? I've wondered that for a while now, how after 30 years and in light of all the inner facts of case, all the behind the scenes information etc, how it can still be hanging over the guy's head like it is.

There's a statute of limitations on how long after the commision of a crime you can be charged with it, but because Polanski already pleaded guilty the charges have already been satisfied. It's the sentencing phase where issues arrise.

There was some serious momentum to have the charges dropped a few years ago but the judge said he'd only hear the case if Polanski came back to the states and turned himself over to US authorities, to which Polanski said no.

I mean, I can't fucking blame the guy. He spend 40 some odd days in Chino after he voluntarily committed himself to a nuthouse for psychiatric evaluation, all at the behest of the DA. He played the game and did everything they asked of him to the letter and then the judge tried to fuck him over.

It's never ok for a grown man to have sex with a 13 year old, but given the circumsrtances everyone involved including the victim and the prosecutor agree he's served his time. The fact that they arrested him is pretty weak. :disgust

Tom_PM 09-28-2009 08:20 AM

I think he could have served 3 yrs, or 10 yrs, and if it came out today that he was arrested again and the whole story came out like it was new again, you'd still have people full of zeal to lynch him. Sucks that the prosecution there fucked up, but they did and that's that. The time for this trial was 30 yrs ago.

We have athletes in jail for 21 days after killing innocent pedestrians on the roads.

Evil Chris 09-28-2009 08:21 AM

it's about time they caught up with him...

CamJack 09-28-2009 08:21 AM

Burn him at the stake

PR_Sebas 09-28-2009 08:22 AM

saw an interesting documentary about him a few months ago

TheSenator 09-28-2009 08:23 AM

http://imgur.com/TzKby.jpg


They threw a bone to the US under pressure with the UBS Bank situation.

cwd 09-28-2009 08:26 AM

gonna be interesting to see where this case goes. Just saying "old guy had sex with 13 year old" is going to make people want him in jail. Listing all the facts in the case you can see it is not so clear cut.

cykoe6 09-28-2009 08:27 AM

To the people defending Polanski.......... would he have any supporters if he was just some local loser who had tricked a 13 year old into having sex with him? No one would dare defend him. He would do his 10 years and suffer the consequences and then come out and be a registered sex offender for life and everyone would scream in unison that he should have his balls cut off, be killed in some gruesome fashion, etc.

The double standards we have for celebrities in our culture makes me sick to my stomach. :disgust

Tom_PM 09-28-2009 08:32 AM

People are defending him? sheesh Why bother?
It's a legal case. Let lawyers worry about shit like "defense". Just make it go away.

Sarah_Jayne 09-28-2009 08:35 AM

If it is okay to sleep with a 13 year old because she had already had sex then I suppose you can't rape a porn star either. What somebody has done in the past doesn't define every situation.

He totally deserved the Oscar for the Pianist and he also totally deserves to face the music on this.

Cyber Fucker 09-28-2009 08:44 AM

He not quite raped her because she said she wanted him. Anyway, I agree that what he did was not right and he should get some punishment.

CDSmith 09-28-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16366881)
There's a statute of limitations on how long after the commision of a crime you can be charged with it, but because Polanski already pleaded guilty the charges have already been satisfied. It's the sentencing phase where issues arrise.

There was some serious momentum to have the charges dropped a few years ago but the judge said he'd only hear the case if Polanski came back to the states and turned himself over to US authorities, to which Polanski said no.

I mean, I can't fucking blame the guy. He spend 40 some odd days in Chino after he voluntarily committed himself to a nuthouse for psychiatric evaluation, all at the behest of the DA. He played the game and did everything they asked of him to the letter and then the judge tried to fuck him over.

It's never ok for a grown man to have sex with a 13 year old, but given the circumsrtances everyone involved including the victim and the prosecutor agree he's served his time. The fact that they arrested him is pretty weak. :disgust

Wasn't that largely due to public pressure though? I think there was some public outcry over the 42 day sentence in light of it being a 13 yr old girl he supposedly "defiled". Wasn't this judge an elected official bowing to the will of his constituents?

No excusing it though, renegging on the original deal/sentence was a pretty suck-ass thing to do. And you'd think the authorities and legal systems of the world have better things to do than rehashing 30 yr old cases where the so-called victim isn't even interested in pursuing it and hasn't been for decades.

billyb 09-28-2009 08:52 AM

I am glad that we as a country have come a long way in not blaming the victim anymore. Just because she had sex with other men, does not mean she was not raped in this situation.

Either way someone messed this case up. I have no idea why the Swiss are doing this now?, but they must be under extreme pressure from our government now to turn himover to them.

ShellyCrash 09-28-2009 08:55 AM

I'm not saying he's innocent, I'm saying he served his time for what they could charge him with.

I think this is a case where it was his fame that got him in trouble instead of the other way around.

Personally, I think the girl's mother should have gone to jail as well. It almost seemed like she was whoring her daughter out. She knew her daughter was doing drugs and having sex with the photogs she went on shoots with before Polanski and she never did anything to stop it, in fact did the opposite. If Polanski wasn't who he was nothing would have come of it, just as they never filed charges against any of the photogs who came before him.

Polanski's fame fucked him again when his plea agreement fell through. Because the case was receiving so much press the judge thought it would be a great opportunity to keep his name on the media and make himself look tough on crime. That's why they renegged after he had done his time served. He didn't fucking escape from Chino, they let him out because he had served his time per the district atty.

Just ask Plaxico Burress, sometimes being famous in this country can fuck you when someone sees an opportunity to make a stand.

Kolargol 09-28-2009 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 16366566)
Just reading about him, I didn't know that most of his family died in the concentration camps during WWII and he survived the war with the help of Polish Roman Catholic families.

And in 1969 his pregnant wife Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson Family :Oh crap

All true.

Cyber Fucker 09-28-2009 08:58 AM

Btw. there is one more interesting fact about this - what's going on in Switzerland. Switzerland used to be a neutral ground and it looks like it is not anymore. Now any government can fuck u there and your bank accounts too. The phrase "Swiss bank" means nothing more like just a bank from now. Swiss banks privacy is gone :glugglug

cykoe6 09-28-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16367024)
Just ask Plaxico Burress, sometimes being famous in this country can fuck you when someone sees an opportunity to make a stand.

People do two years on Rikers for illegal possession of a firearms all the time (NYC has very draconian gun laws with very harsh sentences). All that happened with Buresss is that he got the sentence anyone else would have gotten instead of the usual celebrity discount.

Sarah_Jayne 09-28-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bbwebmaster (Post 16367000)
He not quite raped her because she said she wanted him. Anyway, I agree that what he did was not right and he should get some punishment.


If, and I say if, the reports of booze and drugs being involved are true. Do you then take it that a 13 year old can consent?

JP513 09-28-2009 10:22 AM

He's slimeball. The girl was only 13 for pete's sake!

kane 09-28-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16366532)
Ok get some facts straight

"The director pleaded guilty in 1977 to a single count of having unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, acknowledging he had sex with a 13-year-old girl."

That totally different that saying

"pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor when he gave booze and drugs to a 13 year old and then had sex with her"

The DA said he drugged and raped her. And if they had a case why give him a plea deal that had no jail time except for the 42 days he already served?

Why would he make a plea deal? Because the guy is/was a celebrity and had/has a lot of money plus it sounds like the girl in the case wasn't going to be very co-operative so getting a full on conviction might have been difficult.

After making my original post I then made a second post stating that there were questionable things going on in the case. Still, the guy had a sesx with a 13 year old, it isn't like he an innocent person who is getting railroaded.

He should be brought back here, they should look into the case and see what happened and then decide the best legal course of action from there. If that ends up being that he get let go, so be it. If that ends up meaning he goes back on trial so be it.

TheDoc 09-28-2009 12:25 PM

The guy 76 today, if he did this 30 years ago he would be 46.

At the age of 46 he had sex with a 13 year old.

The guy is pedophile and should be treated as such..

O MARINA 09-28-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 16366268)
time to face the music.



YES why so long

jimmycastor 09-28-2009 02:37 PM

bs, this is nonsense, polanski is a brilliant artist, his pregnant wife was shoot and killed by charles manson and he had a very bad time afterwards (when the stuff with the girl happend..)

nowadays
he just makes genious movies (real movies, not the usual bingo bango ) and this is story is just old bs .god i hope he is free soon

TheDA 09-28-2009 02:38 PM

I wonder why they waited until Saturday to arrest him.

Was it really that the Swiss succumbed to the pressure from the US over the UBS bank stuff do you think?

GatorB 09-28-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16366928)
To the people defending Polanski.......... would he have any supporters if he was just some local loser who had tricked a 13 year old into having sex with him? No one would dare defend him. He would do his 10 years and suffer the consequences and then come out and be a registered sex offender for life and everyone would scream in unison that he should have his balls cut off, be killed in some gruesome fashion, etc.

The double standards we have for celebrities in our culture makes me sick to my stomach. :disgust

Listen he didn't "trick" anyone. She was a whore. Now does that mean it's ok for him to fuck her? No he was nearly 40. But she was hardly a "innocent victim". Also she appeared to be older than 13. Angelica Houston was in the house the night in question and said the girl looked 25. Now did he know she was 13 or not? Also where was this girl parents letting her stay at a 39 year old man's house at night?

Fact is the DA made a deal and should abide by it. Like it or not. The deal was for no extra time. Want to give him some time for running off, fine. If he went to trial 30 years ago he'd gotten less time then he would today, if any. The fact is even the "victim" wants this to be dropped and in the end if the victim doesn't want it to go further it's none of the DAs fucking business. She already sued Polanski and she got a nice big check in an out of court settlement. So it's over.

Obviously you think he's a pedo and by your comments those that you think "support" him make you sick. So by inference you are saying we support pedophilia. Accusing someon of that is a BANNABLE offense on this board. So I'd fucking check your ass right fucking now.


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